Inquiry Ron Billingsly

[lanceheads]

Ron, you may get 10 tables, but what are they filled with?

I agree that some may be eccentric when posting but they mean well and just try to make sure this stuff doesn't happen to everyone, over and over.

The reptile society says no more Imports Ron.
Will you be vending at your show? Will you be enforcing a strict CB rule? what are the rules of your show?

Which reptile society?

Randal Berry

 

[DAND]

Here you go, I'll consolidate replies so as to not raise my post count for those who want to whine about it.

Yes, I've not done the last two Taylor shows... I did not back out... I was at larger shows... that conflicted with the dates of Taylor. I can not be at two places at once.

BTW ronnie, calling late at night the night before the show to cancel to do a different show is the lack of professionalism one would expect from you.

I come to make friends

Yeah, good luck with that.

NOT see people wine and cry like babies stomping their foot because they didn't check or think to ask to see if a snake was healthy or not. But I came in here and everything is psycho. Makes me want to tell everyone I know to stay away from here. Because the more I read the more I learn it's nothing but thieves, liers and scammers that meet here. I know there maybe some good sellers out there, but the bad out way the good 10 to 1. I mean seriously I bet over half of you that are posting your rants don't even have reptiles your self?

Then why are you here? This place is obviously (by your own admission above) not to your liking then why stay and whine and cry about it?

But then some have 4,000.. 6,000 some and even more posts on here. Add that up that's hundreds of post per week even per day = NO LIFE.

Actually my posts average out to be 3.06 posts per day. That equals plenty of time for a life.

Seriously I have a life. A pretty good one at that.

Your poor, poor wife.

I'm a liar and a thief

Need anything more be said?

You attack anyone who stands up for me. And put them through the ringer.

When their story doesn't make sense one needs to wring out the crap to get to the truth.

Obsidian Butterfly, I don't even know her. But she is putting up with this nonsense. She has to be a person of faith to go thru that.

Faith in what? Certainly not this site. This hostile unstable individual comes here ranting and raving about not liking this site or it's members yet stays around and you call that faith. Seems to me this person is a couple fries short of a happy meal. It is not too difficult to picture this person running around pretending to have a net yelling butterflies! butterflies!

Like she said... 6,000 post, 7,000 post... OMG the math hurts my head.
That's crazy. I've been a member here since..... what? 2002? 100 some posts.......

It's called participation, but again my posts average out to 3.06 posts per day. I hope that eases your widdle headache.

Though, unlike yourself I don't just solely use Fauna to have to defend myself (actually, I never have had to) or to use the classifieds. I answers other members questions, participate in discussions in various forums as well as here on the BOI and share pictures, which all add to my post count.

I let society in general determine my fate. Not you ventictive twits.

The only vindictive one here is you. I'm not the one who stated they would bring items and sell them specifically meant to undercut another and try to put someone else out of business because they posted here. Here, I'll quote you just in case you forgot what you wrote:

Next Taylor show, I'll bring 10,000 crickets.. and sell them for.... $5 a thousand. I'll do that for four shows.. no six shows. What else.... hmm.... let me think... I'm sure I can sell some other things... I'll get back to you on it.

Who is vindictive here? Huh, twit?

Now, to the other ones.... like David... it just makes them feel important to slam other people. 6,000 posts..... you got to be kidding..... really????

Sorry chief, telling the truth is not slamming or bashing. Again, I participate here versus just using this site. As for making one feel important, I'm not the one who slammed anyone but you on the other hand think you are superior to me and slammed me.

oooooo from a one table cricket vendor........ me so scared!
Please, your a poor exscue for a vendor, that only does what? two shows?

Poor widdle ronnie is getting intimidated and so worked up by such an insignificant person such as myself.

I didn't attack or draw him out at all... until he posted here.

No, you didn't attack me until after I pointed out something that you wrote that made you look like a smart ass. You closed your reply to someone who you sold an animal to that died with, "enjoy your animals". How does one enjoy dead animals there ronnie? On second thought, don't answer that. I don't want to picture you enjoying a dead or living animal for that matter.

He said he has the right to do what ever he likes to do.

Freedom of speech there ronnie boy. And as long as I stay within the rules outlined here, damn skippy I can and will say whatever I want. The problem you have with what I'm saying is the truth.

I've been keeping and breeding reptiles since most of you were born.

Just because you have been doing it for soooo long doesn't mean you have been (and obviously not) doing it right. But then again, when someone disappears and then reappears as often as you have over those 25 years is it really an accurate count being an on again off again vendor such as yourself?

If you don't like me or my stuff.... well..... just keep walking. I don't want your business if you think so lowly of me. Thank God most people I deal with do.

The typo that hits the nail right on the head.

And.. for you david.. please enjoy your animals.

I can and will since none of them have come from you and they are alive, healthy and mite free.

I'm not here to make any one mad, but I am not a coward either. They have their view points and I respect them for that, but I have mine also.
And when I am ... I guess teased to responding like David's Post... I respond.
Most don't like it when they are challenged.

Especially when they are shown they made a dumb ass comment towards someone they sold an animal to that died. But damn, I didn't know I had such power over you. I'll try to refrain from intimidating you, you poor victim you.

Do you not think the promoters in Chicago, or Hamburg or anywhere in fact, would not come to me and say, Hey Ron, please remove that, or clean that up, or......

Yes, and I know for a fact that you have been told just that at Taylor on more than one occasion.

Table of death? Death Dealer? These are people who are either jealous, or have some other reason to be a hater.

Jealous? Of you? Who in their right mind would want to be like you? To be referred to as the "death dealer" or the proprietor of the "island of death" or "table of death"?

Not one time, NO ONE TIME has David or any one else come to me and say.... dude...... mites.... or Hey Buddy, looks like you need to work on the..... " feel in the blank".

And we all have seen here just how you would have replied had someone done so.

Ever wonder why you had your own island there ron? Because no one wanted to be set up next to you.

Now, I know ... they will come and say.... Not my job to inspect him or to tell him what he should already know.....

So far the only thing you have said that has made any sense. After 25 years you'd think you would know how to do it right though. Slow learner huh?

So be it. I will stop vending small shows, so hence I will no longer need to fill the need.

So I guess you won't be showing up with half a million crickets? Whew, boy oh boy, will I be sleeping better tonight. But of course you won't be showing up, because it was just a lot of hot air from the blowhard ronnie.

P.S. I'll be sure to pass on your contact information to any inquiring about where you are. You know, anyone looking for money or that had animals die on them, etc... No need to thank me, it's my pleasure.

 

[Ron Billingsley]

David you are so full of yourself.
Like I said, you can easily twist every word I say.
And you did.
You attack and don't think about the results. So, yes, I'll be in Taylor this coming month, selling 1000 lots of crickets for $5 a box.
Why? because I'm a dick, and a lair and a thief.... ain't that what those type of people do?????
I won't have any animals, you won't have. But I will have what you will.
Why? For the public to decide... who has better animals, and price and guarantees.

As I see it, you opened your big mouth, pointing fingers, figuring I would just back down. Your mistaken. I'm not one of your little Internet moles who runs from you or anyone else who attacks. I stand and fight. All the BOI commuinty is watching David.

I've been around and have been around.. I don't disapear like you say.....
your 3.01 posts per day is another lie. Dude, your one dead beat of a person to have 6,000 posts on this site.... in a way it's kind of sad. I think most people are kind of sad for you.

Me, my phone has been ringing, my email box if full, and why? because A) the show naturally, and B) this stupid post. All of them are calling and telling me what an ass you are and how WC animals feeds this hobby. That what I am doing is not wrong.... But I told them that it's ok, I'm use to Trolls like yourself. That every time I post, he has to return a post or he looks weak.
But we know your weak... why? because of all the nonsense your spouting off about.

I am going to call up ole' Mike and tell him I'll donate every penny I make at Taylor to USARK to allow me to sell RIGHT NEXT TO YOU.

See you in Taylor David.

BTW folks, I won't have any WC animals with me in Taylor... just feeder crickets, some other bugs and a few mites........

 

[Will0W783]

I took screen shots but Paint only allowed me to save them as bitmap files and they won't upload on here. How can I change them to .gif or .jpg to get them to upload?

 

[Will0W783]

Alrighty, let's see if it works this time. I think I got it. Also, I might add that I do have a life and a job. Not that it is anyone's business, but I am a graduate student working on my Ph.D. in Neuroscience. I can go on the computer in lab when I am taking a break from experiments and/or studying.

 

[Will0W783]

Here are the rest of them. These screen shots should correspond to my earlier post of copy/pasted emails. I totally agree that screen shots give much better proof- that was a very valid point Obsidian_Butterfly, and thank you for explaining it to me.

 

[hhmoore]

your 3.01 posts per day is another lie. Dude, your one dead beat of a person to have 6,000 posts on this site.... in a way it's kind of sad. I think most people are kind of sad for you.

I've been avoiding involving myself in this mess, but a couple of the stones being tossed around have hit me.....like the one above. First, cast your eyes to the left, and make note of MY post count....ah, heck, I'll make it easy for everybody.
Total Posts: 9,404
Posts Per Day: 5.23
Does that make me a deadbeat? I'm college educated, nationally credentialed, state licensed, and work in two local hospitals. I take care of my reptiles, spend time with my dogs, and am in a relationship. Oh, AND I participate on this site...so that makes me a deadbeat? I guess people are probably kind of sad for me, as well...they should be - I don't get nearly enough sleep, and it makes me somewhat cranky.

 

[DAND]

So, yes, I'll be in Taylor this coming month, selling 1000 lots of crickets for $5 a box.
Why? because I'm a dick, and a lair and a thief.... ain't that what those type of people do?????
I won't have any animals, you won't have. But I will have what you will.
Why? For the public to decide... who has better animals, and price and guarantees.

Why yes you are, the trifecta of ronnie bilkingsley. Oh, you forgot the vindictive twit part.

I have a guarantee for you there ronnie boy. I gaurantee you won't be in Taylor selling crickets for any price.

I've been around and have been around.. I don't disapear like you say.....

Whatever you say there ron.

your 3.01 posts per day is another lie.

I, unlike you, do not lie. Go to my profile and click on the statistics button and be made the fool of yet again.

Me, my phone has been ringing, my email box if full, and why? because A) the show naturally, and B) this stupid post. All of them are calling and telling me what an ass you are and how WC animals feeds this hobby.

Of course they are ron.

I am going to call up ole' Mike and tell him I'll donate every penny I make at Taylor to USARK to allow me to sell RIGHT NEXT TO YOU.

I guarantee you won't tell Mike anything. You may ask but you will be denied. Go ahead and call and we'll see the all the hot air let out of the blowhard bilkingsley.

See you in Taylor David.

Wanna bet?


But we see here folks the true nature of ron. Petty, vindictive, unprofessional and a liar. Certainly not someone who I would consider doing business with.

 

[Ron Billingsley]

Mr. Moore, this isn't about you per se or your count. You've been here since the beginning, if I'm correct in saying?

All the screen shots.... show that I was in fact in commucations with her. Does it not? Gee.......

David.... but bitch, and cry and point fingers.. but boy, when someone stands up to you and all that crap... you just... bitch and cry louder.

I don't want to come to Taylor and drag it out with you. BUT I WILL.
Dude I can sell Crickets in the parking Lot or on the street corner, and legally there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
What would I gain in doing so? I was just making a point. You drag me thru the dirt.... like you THINK you are.... and I can easily do the same with your business.

So, just keep on pushing, we'll see who comes out on top....


Again, in closing... she got a discounted snake. A cut price because it was not a 100% flawless animal. She had problems with it. We talked back and forth via email and when it passed, I refuned her 100% of her money.
She was not out one nickel. But yet... as she paints it and David standing on his soap box, I am the bad guy. I could care less, and I'm only being honest If I never deal with her or David again. David.. tell the audiance .... have you ever purchased an animal from me?????? Hmmm??? Yes you have, numerous times. Have you ever called me and said, Ron it died? or it wasn't what you thought it was? or it's not doing go? NO
And you come back every month and look at buy........ If you say you never have, I'll have sign documents from witnesses ..........stating the facts........

So, let's draw this to a close..... or...... Let's keep going.... it's all good.

There is no bad press....... bad only when there is no press.....

Cheers

 

[hhmoore]

Actually, David has been here a year longer....

Anyway...I've never purchased live animals from Ron, but I have purchased acrylic displays. I was, and am, happy with the quality of them, and Ron was always helpful and courteous in our dealings. He even recommended a product to repair a damaged display (no, it was not received damaged...it fell off my cart on the way out of the show).
Not the same thing, I know, but it is a reflection of the only transactions I have had with Ron. Take it for what it's worth...I'm going back to watching before I cross a post level which earns me another unpleasant name

 

[DAND]

David.... but bitch, and cry and point fingers.. but boy, when someone stands up to you and all that crap... you just... bitch and cry louder.

I don't know what thread you are reading. What color is the sky in your make believe world?

I don't want to come to Taylor and drag it out with you. BUT I WILL.
Dude I can sell Crickets in the parking Lot or on the street corner, and legally there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
What would I gain in doing so? I was just making a point. You drag me thru the dirt.... like you THINK you are.... and I can easily do the same with your business.

You sell animals that die and that have parasites and I am dragging you through the dirt? I am wrong for informing people that I have witnessed these sub-par animals? How is that dragging you through the dirt? You are wallowing in it like a little piggy. I can't get you any dirtier than you are doing to yourself. See....

You then threaten me with undercutting me in the parking lot or on the street corner.

David.. tell the audiance .... have you ever purchased an animal from me?????? Hmmm??? Yes you have, numerous times.

Only once there liar boy. A budget's frog. And it was for a customer of mine and it did die and I refunded her money. And you haven't been back since. Am I going to get a refund there Mr. Stand up?

And you come back every month and look at buy........ If you say you never have, I'll have sign documents from witnesses ..........stating the facts........

You are a liar (but we already knew that). You go right a head and have those signed documents and I can have credible, real people state differently.

 

[Ron Billingsley]

BS and you know it. You come down before the show begins and ask for deals at every show. You've bought from me, and went and put the animals on your table and re sold them. That is called flipping. You sir, are a flipper!

I could care less what you say or what you do. You, to me is nothing but a ant. If someone came on here and had a legit complaint, I would dress that issue.

All your'll doing is... name calling and crying. Every post... Boo Hoo... Ron is a larger dealer then me, he get's better animals, has more contacts... and all I have is my little soap box and one table. Boo Hoo.

That's all I have to say on the subject. Well, until Taylor that is. You are personally attacking and all I am doing is attacking back.... But I'm America and your some little commy country that rapes little boys and sells it's females to rich countries.....

Hmmm that might have been a little dramaic on my part... please strike that.

You want to come on here and do your thing, which is attack and make jokes and just post BS as much as you can.
My thing, Sir is to do shows, and ... well.. There I'm in my element.
Let's see who laughing in Taylor, ok?

 

[critical bill]

That's all I have to say on the subject. Well, until Taylor that is. You are personally attacking and all I am doing is attacking back.... But I'm America and your some little commy country that rapes little boys and sells it's females to rich countries.....

Hmmm that might have been a little dramaic on my part... please strike that.

That wasn't dramatic it was stupid. There are a lot of things I've said to people in heated exchanges on the BOI, but I wouldn't even go near saying things like that or implying that about someone else.

Maybe you should take a break for a while.

 

[Ron Billingsley]

Chuck, sorry I knew no one would get it... it's an inside joke.

David thinks he's such a out spoken stand up for the Reptile coummunity type of person, when in fact, He's just a roach on the heel of someone's shoe.

In other words, he attacks me, I am going to do the same right back to him.
Well, until I get banned or my show is over. Then I'll stop. I have just as much right to talk trash as he does. He is not doing one thing to proof a point, bring light any info to any sisutation, nothing. Yet he just keeps throwing crap out. Well, to be honest... I'm having fun. In all the years I've been a memeber here.. I barely made it to 100 posts. In two days, I'm up over 130!!!!! No were near 4,000, 5,000 or Sorry Mr. Moore..... 9,000.

I have just as much right to talk trash as David. He tells me to shut my mouth (his second post here) Well, I don't have to. Free speach and all.....


God Bless the good ole US of A! I'm sure David voted for Obama..... the big dummy....... I mean the short dummy

 

[critical bill]

Chuck, sorry I knew no one would get it... it's an inside joke.

David thinks he's such a out spoken stand up for the Reptile coummunity type of person, when in fact, He's just a roach on the heel of someone's shoe.

In other words, he attacks me, I am going to do the same right back to him.
Well, until I get banned or my show is over. Then I'll stop. I have just as much right to talk trash as he does.

Hold on a second. Thats not trash talk you're doing. You don't have the right to imply in any manner, joking or otherwise, that someone is child rapist and a smuggler of women for prostitution.

And how is continuing that sort of thing going to help your reputation any when doing so is most certainly going to get you banned?

There are rules of engagement in these sorts of situations and David has stayed well within the rules. If you cant beat him or match him fairly and squarely you should just stop and he will stop.

 

[DAND]

BS and you know it. You come down before the show begins and ask for deals at every show. You've bought from me, and went and put the animals on your table and re sold them. That is called flipping. You sir, are a flipper!

That's not me you idiot. That is the guy next to me and he doesn't flip them he breeds if they live. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth and make a fool of yourself yet again.

All your'll doing is... name calling and crying. Every post... Boo Hoo... Ron is a larger dealer then me, he get's better animals, has more contacts... and all I have is my little soap box and one table. Boo Hoo.

Again, what thread are your reading? I'm not crying about anything. I haven't called you anything but an idiot at the beginning of this post. (unless you count calling you a liar but that is a fact, but then again so could be said about the idiot thing)

That's all I have to say on the subject.

So you've said a number of times yet you still return. Let's see if this time it's the truth.

You are personally attacking and all I am doing is attacking back.... But I'm America and your some little commy country that rapes little boys and sells it's females to rich countries.....

A little transference there ronnie?

Again, I am stating facts, not attacking you.

Hmmm that might have been a little dramaic on my part... please strike that.

Yes, you are quite the drama queen. Trying to divert the attention from you selling dying animals or animals with parasites. Why don't you take pride in what you do instead of cutting corners trying to make a quick buck?

You want to come on here and do your thing, which is attack and make jokes and just post BS as much as you can.

Sorry chum, I've posted nothing but facts which you keep trying to avoid. The truth hurts huh?

My thing, Sir is to do shows, and ... well..

Now that is funny.

Let's see who laughing in Taylor, ok?

Sure thing dough boy.

 

[Ron Billingsley]

No it is exactly the same.

He tells lies and makes crap up.... I'm just doing the same. Right?
He says I lie to people and I steal from people....
I say he does crazy things in a dark room... what's the difference? There is none.. it's all made up fake BS....

 

[nraduski]

This is just turning into useless garbage now. You guys have taken this to a personal level and it is no longer informative.

 

[DAND]

No it is exactly the same.

He tells lies and makes crap up.... I'm just doing the same. Right?
He says I lie to people and I steal from people....
I say he does crazy things in a dark room... what's the difference? There is none.. it's all made up fake BS....

Incorrect, the things I have said are the truth (though they do not match what you are claiming to be doing) while you are lying which is not only just been admitted by you but fact. Big difference.

 

[Ron Billingsley]

Nicholas, you just figuring that out? hehehe

Here folks we have a classic case of Penis Envy.

David has one, maby two? tables at a show in Taylor Michigan.

I have 6 tables. I have people, vendors, and pet stores buy reptiles, rodents, bugs etc from me, while poor David doesn't get much business at all.

So, he will say and point fingers at me trying to knock me down a notch or two.

I don't lie to peope. I don't steal from people. If they buy from me and are unhappy with what they get, I work it out with them. Why would I not? I want their business.

Just for a second, please..... see my side of this issue.... why would I screw people over.... if I want thier business? Why do they come back, month after month, and buy more animals?

And david, know who you are, you silly Billy Goat. I know exactly.

Happy Holloween!

BTW. I will stop posting and keep the bandwith low.... here... now.
But... someone I will not name, will want the last word....... right?

If not... I'm wrong and this is the last your here from me.....


tick, tock, tick, tock.........