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Bad Guy ED CLARK what a piece of work!

captnemo said:
So this thread has served a purpose. Not only will I avoid dealing with Allen Belcher and Ed Clark, but also John Martino of RMJ Reptiles in NJ as well.
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:iagree:

I'm doing a little research here on the BOI preparing for my trip to the NARBC in Arlington, Texas, just checking out the vendors and so forth, seeing how they handle themselves on the BOI, maybe meeting them in person at the show. For online purchases I call them to talk and/or I email. I clarify any questions I might have.

I consider all of the above when I make a purchase in this business/hobby. IMO I would not purchase from Ed Clark or Allen Belcher - based on the way they conduct business through their actions in the multiple threads on the BOI.

I haven't finished the thread yet so I reseve judgment on John Martino.

Angie Martin
DragonBytes, Incorporated
 
I saw a question raised... but not sure a answer was provided.

Why not use a local debt collection agency to collect the debt?
 
Southern Wolf said:
I saw a question raised... but not sure a answer was provided.

Why not use a local debt collection agency to collect the debt?
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The debt collection sounded like a lame excuse for being partnered with Allen. SPJ came forward and said John told him he was partnered with Allen on a "Phantom" project.
 
Bill & Amy said:
The debt collection sounded like a lame excuse for being partnered with Allen. SPJ came forward and said John told him he was partnered with Allen on a "Phantom" project.
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Aaaaaah....and then he obviously saw SPJ's reaction (which I'm sure was all smiles and $$$). The potential of spreading the word of a Martino/Belcher partnership must have been what caused him to "hire" Allen as a debt collector.

I'm sure John's happy about Allen's method of collection, too! :shootfoot The BOI sounds like a great idea...what could possibly go wrong?:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Ed Clark said:
Hey Richard how are you.

At the time I was buying alot of bp's from John he was so busy selling them he would pull them out of the incubator for me, if I was not there to get them someone else would. this was about 1-2 years ago.

There is no way the eggs in Johns giant incubator could be Allens.

To be fair John Martino produces alot of ball python morphs... alot.
Johns a great guy, I don't agree with alot of what he has said in this thread.

Some of the best quality ball pythons I have seen came from John, after I picked up on the big daddy connection I just did not want anymore of those bp's.
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hi Ed, all is well here thanks, about -5 at night though, gotta love the UK :(

That seems a reasonable answer, I can respect that.
 
It really is funny when scumbags point fingers at each other.

Allen Belcher - Sells sick animals and is generally a distasteful douche

Ed Clark - Flips animals while saying he produces everything he sells, Lies better than any politician, doesn't pay business debts (if this is all true which I don't doubt). The list goes on and on...

I don't know a thing about John Martino, but his relationship with Ed Clark and Allen Belcher is more than a guy who sold a snake to another guy. If you associate with scumbags it isn't a huge leap for people to believe you too are a scumbag. What can ya do?

It really is laughable!
 
Southern Wolf said:
I saw a question raised... but not sure a answer was provided.

Why not use a local debt collection agency to collect the debt?
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BEcause to do so you have to have a legitimate provable debt.

You can't just rock up to a debt recovery firm and say "this dude owes me $xxxxx for snakes, I have no reciepts, invoices, contracts. This deal wash cash, in person and was never run through anyhting even closely resembling an actual company. the way a lot of these deals work is in effect, a private sale, cash changes hands (or the promise of cash) and snakes are handed over.

I doubt either party will have anyhting even remotely resembling proof or any wrongdoing, or even anything to show any transaction ever took place.
 
ED CLARK,

I was actually thinking of getting a beardie from you.....

But i have read all of the posts on this thread, and now im a little nervous about sending you money.

PLEASE, clear it up for us.....I still havent see anything saying you paid him yet...

DO you owe john martino over $7000, Yes or No?
Are you going to pay him?
 
providencerhodeisland.ri said:
ED CLARK,

I was actually thinking of getting a beardie from you.....

But i have read all of the posts on this thread, and now im a little nervous about sending you money.

PLEASE, clear it up for us.....I still havent see anything saying you paid him yet...

DO you owe john martino over $7000, Yes or No?
Are you going to pay him?
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Good luck with that.
 
providencerhodeisland.ri said:
I for one, would like to see another post from Ed clark......Please, anyone that continues to post in this thread...after your comments if any.....ask if he has paid Martino yet.

So Ed, did you pay john martino yet?
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I for one would like you to cut out the BS.

You have a question? Start an inquiry about it.

What is your interest in this and not the few other deals in which Ed hasn't offered a resolution?

What exactly is your affiliation to Martino and Belcher?
 
I know this thread is kinda old but, if it has been so long and no court paperwork has even been filed? I have never delt with either party, and definatley will not with one of them which i will not name. I know their is alot of money at stake here, if your serious about getting your money, start a lawsuit. Otherwise its more griping about it, which dosnt really go anywhere if he has evaded you this long. Take it to court, let them handle it and let this be another bad guy thread or whatever this ad was intended to be. Because their very first paragraph was a direct threat.
 
critical bill said:
I for one would like you to cut out the BS.

You have a question? Start an inquiry about it.

What is your interest in this and not the few other deals in which Ed hasn't offered a resolution?

What exactly is your affiliation to Martino and Belcher?
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What Bs, You dont like the show, change the channel...

No affiliation with either party, Ive seen tons of ads on kingsnake and fauna over the years and its nice to know who to not buy from, I stumbled across this thread, it was posted a whole ago and it was about a good amount of money, i dont think im the only one who still wants to know if a resolution has been made.

What is Your interest in this thread? Were the other deals with ed clark about not paying over $7000 (ill look at the other threads later)
 
providencerhodeisland.ri said:
What Bs, You dont like the show, change the channel...

No affiliation with either party, Ive seen tons of ads on kingsnake and fauna over the years and its nice to know who to not buy from, I stumbled across this thread, it was posted a whole ago and it was about a good amount of money, i dont think im the only one who still wants to know if a resolution has been made.

What is Your interest in this thread? Were the other deals with ed clark about not paying over $7000 (ill look at the other threads later)
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My interest is solely in the truth, and I think you are about as far away from telling the truth as you could possibly be.

I don't believe you stumbled across this thread at all. I don't believe that you would go ahead with purchasing an animal from Ed if he replied that he didn't owe John Martino $7k.

I think you're just a butt-weasel that's here to do someones dirty work.
 
Listen chuck, im not here to do anyones "dirty work".... After reading about all of the bad Ed clark deals, I wouldnt buy from him now. I also want the truth, I have nothing to lie about... I think everyone who has read this thread wants to know if in fact Clark paid what he owes, But-weasel? why the name calling.....I for one, dont think we need that here, or anywhere for that matter, Childish, dont you agree?
 
providencerhodeisland.ri said:
I think everyone who has read this thread wants to know if in fact Clark paid what he owes
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The thread was 10th months old before you resurrected it, and its your right to do that, but you're stretching it when saying everyone wants to know. Anyone that wanted to know could have kept this thread alive by consistently asking him. But nobody has because nobody cares. Most people don't like Ed, and most people don't like anyone that has anything to do with him.

Also, you seem to state with some certainty that Ed Clark hasn't paid what he owes - when it hasn't even been established that he owes anything at all. So how is it you know he owes John for a fact and how do you know he hasn't paid?

I'll say it again, you are a weasel.
 
Chuck,
Did you conduct a Gallup or Zogby Poll regarding who like's Ed Clark?
If you didn't, what the hell did you base your opinion that most people don't like Ed?
Did you use the BOI as a sample? Pretty sad if you did dude!

Randal Berry
 
I don't like him because he's a weasel. He won't defend himself unless it's a woman on the other end. It's a known fact that there are MANY people who feel the same. No poll needed, but it is an interesting idea.
 
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