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Bad Guy Warning I got Ripped off for Xmas by Mckyle

bad

you guys should contact the fbi internet fraud div. i had a guy rip me off on a site like this needless to say i never got my money but he got 5yrs in the pin
 
Here's most of the conversation we had. Done deal. He sent this PM only, I was talking to Mckyle, and this is the paypal account he gave me. And the phone number is his ( call it ) its his voice mail. I looked him up on google and confermed where he lived also. He it the right guy. And if you see this Mckyle I hope you get put in jail for this...

Originally Posted by mckyle
I currently have 6 Mojaves ; 2 male and 4 female. If you're interested, let me know and I can send you pics

I am,
What do you want for all?
send some pics...

http://img269.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=danmojave.jpg

The first and fifth are the males.

As far as pricing, shoot me an offer. I am willing to do a payment plan or half upfront half after shipment if you'd prefer.

Ok,
How does $600.00+shipping sound?

Hm, I think I can manage that

Did you get my message?

The last I got was the $600+shipping message.

oh that sucks I never had that happen before
I pmed you asking if $650.oo was good with shipping
If so I need your info:
Full name
Phone number
Paypal info.

Yeah, I can work with that.
Name:
Johnathan Kyle McDaniel
Phone:
8649785959
Paypal:
[email protected]

Ok I'm going to send the money
When will you be able to ship and where are you shipping from?

I'll be able to ship Monday as long as whether cooperates, coming from 29316.

Ok the money was sent.
call me when you ship (909) 984-5343 or just PM me
also email the tracking number.. thanx

Alright, will do. Thanks!
 
Since you already admitted to being a fraud "kyle" - maybe just doing it for teh lulz, maybe you really intended to rip these people off - I'm going to assume the worst and guess what happened was the transfers got disputed and locked before you could take the money and run.

Seriously? I have no idea why you're talking here. Maybe for more lulz, maybe since you didn't get any money you're trying to damage control to prevent someone from trying to figure out your identity and pressing charges. Or maybe you're someone totally different from this forum you mentioned that provides paypal passwords and you're just screwing around.

People who have his phone number - if you actually called someone and spoke with the person claiming to have snakes to sell you with that number, try to use it to look up his ID and/or to file any police reports. The phone number is likely your best link to figuring out who's really behind this and pressing charges. And I would recommend doing that whether you get your money back or not.

It's easy to hurt people and rip things apart. What's hard is actually doing something productive with your life. I don't know whether you're learning how to be a proper con artist or just an @$$hole troll "Kyle" but you're pretty repulsive, either way.
 
While I still have a really weird feeling about all of this...like something isn't quite adding up...I do have to say thank you for explaining what happened....
 
Since you already admitted to being a fraud "kyle" - maybe just doing it for teh lulz, maybe you really intended to rip these people off - I'm going to assume the worst and guess what happened was the transfers got disputed and locked before you could take the money and run.

Seriously? I have no idea why you're talking here. Maybe for more lulz, maybe since you didn't get any money you're trying to damage control to prevent someone from trying to figure out your identity and pressing charges. Or maybe you're someone totally different from this forum you mentioned that provides paypal passwords and you're just screwing around.

People who have his phone number - if you actually called someone and spoke with the person claiming to have snakes to sell you with that number, try to use it to look up his ID and/or to file any police reports. The phone number is likely your best link to figuring out who's really behind this and pressing charges. And I would recommend doing that whether you get your money back or not.

It's easy to hurt people and rip things apart. What's hard is actually doing something productive with your life. I don't know whether you're learning how to be a proper con artist or just an @$$hole troll "Kyle" but you're pretty repulsive, either way.
Plenty of people have my identity already. Honestly, it should be pretty obvious as to why I'm here. I'll gladly go ahead and take my leave from this thread though, since many of you seem to prefer that.
While I still have a really weird feeling about all of this...like something isn't quite adding up...I do have to say thank you for explaining what happened....
Like I said, any questions feel free to ask. You can PM me or send an email - I can send that to you if you would like. However, as mentioned above, I won't be taking part in this thread any longer.
 
When he contacted me about the mojaves he only said he had 1.2 and this was literally just a few minutes after he posted his ads about the mojaves. LOL!
 
I deserve to be bombarded with something far worse than questions.

Cracking is exactly what you said, although it technically isn't hacking - in most cases. The passwords can be posted publicly, and that certainly psoes a risk to the passes being changed - something that happens regularly, and is the whole point of cracking.

As for what happened...

After I got the paypal, I decided that it looked empty. So I searched Fauna for Wanted ads, and saw that some people were looking for pretty expensive snakes. Now, knowing that most people here are trusting - for the nost part - I decided to try my luck and see if I could get someone to believe that I was selling snakes. So I emailed a few people, taking pictures from old classifieds, and got a "bite", so to say. After that, things rolled downhill and I had 2 or 3 more large payments come in. And now we're here - me admitting that I'm a jackass.

Any holes that need to be filled, let me know :)

WTF? OMG I think you lower than the crap that comes out of my dragons @#$%#@
 
Google his phone number, pay the fee, get his address, call the police in his city and they should go to his house, give the number to the cops so they can reserch him also. print and send his confestion to the police...
 
Well Kyle you certainly or a Punk as you can tell in your attitude,you really give herpers a bad name but just goes to show you that it is worth a couple xtra dollars to go with a established breeder or someone who has a good reputation instead of letting price dictate the sale.I would rather not jump at stand out cheap sale ads rather look up some one who cares about reputation and the qaulity of animals they sell.
 
i always tend to search for my dream snake in whatever morph im looking at...so price never comes into mind when im searching for my breeding stock...this situation makes it difficult for people to not want to stick to known breeders....makes it hard for the breeder thats starting out to make a name for themselves

fortunately Kyle admitted to not owning any snakes...this isn't making herpers look bad at all considering he isn't one at all...this is just a horrid case of scamming on people he thought would be easy targets becuase of the nature of the sale
 
This is the most F-ed up thing I've ever read. Something really doesn't add up here.

In a sick weird way I understand him coming on here and bragging about what he did. What I don't get is the way he is bragging about it. Honestly I don't know what to make of this. I'm floored by it.

Everyone effected by this scum bag needs to do everything in their power to make sure he suffers for this. What he did is sickening and then to come on here and mock the victims?!

It really makes me sick to know that people can do things like this to other people.
 
I deserve to be bombarded with something far worse than questions.

Cracking is exactly what you said, although it technically isn't hacking - in most cases. The passwords can be posted publicly, and that certainly psoes a risk to the passes being changed - something that happens regularly, and is the whole point of cracking.

As for what happened...

After I got the paypal, I decided that it looked empty. So I searched Fauna for Wanted ads, and saw that some people were looking for pretty expensive snakes. Now, knowing that most people here are trusting - for the nost part - I decided to try my luck and see if I could get someone to believe that I was selling snakes. So I emailed a few people, taking pictures from old classifieds, and got a "bite", so to say. After that, things rolled downhill and I had 2 or 3 more large payments come in. And now we're here - me admitting that I'm a jackass.

Any holes that need to be filled, let me know :)

So you decided to pray on people's trust here and scam them to make some fast money? So where did the pictures come from since you said the were old classifieds?

Jeff Wise
 
Yes, it was a very pathetic deal. I'm done posting on this thread. I've already written down and saved all of the evidence of him scamming me and then admitting to scamming the other people. I'm taking my notes and my laptop to the police station tomorrow morning.

I just hope paypal can get us back our money and I hope this guy gets what he deserves, a huge kick in the A$$!! *sigh*

And I hope the scum bag can't sleep tonight.
 
I really hope you get your money plus some back. I also hope that little sh*t get to spend some time in jail with a dude Bubba that has a thing for scammers.
 
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