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Burms or Retics???

Bah, just get a dwarf tiger from the retic ranch. There SMOKIN and rather small so you don't have to worry about there monster poops XD
 
Ok. Big ones are awesome too :D show pics of the new addition when ya get em :D
 
Retics are beautiful but I love my burms.

My burms are more like laborador retrievers, sweet to handle, easy to feed, follow you around (don't give me any garbage, the one I will let free range follows people to the room they are hanging out in and coils up), and the only time my big guy bit me was after I wiped rat water on my shirt then picked him up. Totally my fault. A bit of alcohol in the mouth and he let go, I rinsed his mouth out with water and fed him.

My major reason for not getting retics is the feces stories I have read. Burms poo like a boa in firm boluses for the most part. I have heard that retics go like colubrids. Messy, wet, smeared all over the place. I could be wrong, though. I've never owned a 'tic, just read about them.
 
Nice... Free range huh. haha PythingJim I still don't get the joke though..
Tyler... how is the .tic pooh?? And how bad??? I mean dragons don't pooh often, but it smells awful
 
The retic poo depends on what you feed em. Rats are uniform like a burms, pigs can get a little messy because there's no hair for the poo to stick to(lol I made a rhyme!) And foul is just that. FOUL*shudders* its like diearea (spelling?) Size of poo is also relative to meal size, so a baby retics poo will look like your beardies. There poo doesn't really smell that bad, but there pee, that's a diffrent story lol. It knocks me on my butt if they pee under there water bowl.
 
I might be wrong on Jims joke, but I think he's just messing about you picking up the ultra ivory :D
 
I have six burms and two retics. Four of the burms are albino: one six foot male, an eight foot female , an eleven foot male and a twelve foot male. All have personalities like a labrador. Curious, active, interested, friendly, all of the albinos. Two of the burms are normal pattern, one male about 10 foot, female about 8 foot. The female was a rescue, had mites bad, really bad. I took care of her mite problem, she was weak and timid, and didn't give me any attitude. Once the mites were gone, she ate like a champ, still does. Only thing is she is a wild thing, hisses louder than any snake I have if you touch her. Follows you in the glass of her enclosure when you walk by. Will come right up to my nose if I put my face close to her. The other norm, the 10 foot male, is as nice as they come. Only time HE hisses is if you open his enclosre but DON'T pet him and show him attention. Close the door without petting him and talking to him, he will hiss like the female. Open it, he comes right to you hand, tongues you, and stays there till you stoke him under the chin for a few minutes, then relaxes back in his spot.

On to my retics. One is a normal pattern 6 foot baby....once he's snake hooked out of his enclosure, he's back to being a baby, timid, head shy, but crawls through my hands, holding on tightly for his life, can eventually even rub his head or chin. Put him back in his enclosure, he is back to being mr. hardass, striking madly, coiling back with is mouth open.

The other retic is an 11 foot male, very beautiful, super agressive eater. If you can get him out of his enclosure, he's a gentle giant. Getting him into a snake bag for cleaning is tedious. He's nailed me on the hand, badly, once, when I was reaching in to clean his poop. I yanked back, stupidly, and it ripped me open, I was spurting blood across the room. I wrapped it up and finiahed cleaning his cage. I didn't pay attention to his body language...he clearly looked food agressive, and he was hungry, and thought my glove covered hand WAS food. When I tried to quickly reach in and remove his poop, it didn't look like my hand to him, it was different colored than I am, didn't smell like I smell, and probably looked inticing. Once he bit, he let go, realizing it was not the rat or rabbit he was looking for.

Personally, I love the burms more. I respect the retics, and think they would make lovely in a large custum enclosure which provides them with ample room, but I just can'[t handle them or approach them the same way I can with my burms. I can literally climd into the burm enclosure while cleaning, with my head 2 feet away from the 11 foot male's head. While I am still careful in those instances, I would never be able to do that with my retics. I can let my burms hang from my shoulders, and walk around calmly. My retics are always, constantly moving around when I hold them. Personal preference--burms are for me, although I do think the retics are beautiful, interesting creatures.
 
I don't have to bag my retics for cage cleaning. There all as sweet in cage as well as out of cage. As for how you hold your burms, I can do the same with my retics. Granted my biggest one if getting a little heavy for excessive neck-chillaxein, I do it anyway because she's such a sweetheart. I've actually fallen asleep with her in my lap and when I woke (bout 30 min later) she hadn't moved one bit. (To scott): I know you don't wanna be tagged, but I believe useing a snake hook isn't the best method of aproach when trying to tame a cage agressive snake. (Diffrent story for hots completley) but for retics (at loast for mine) I had to teach em who's boss. Just pet there head while in strike possion. They'll close there mouth and realize your not food after a while. I love my burm. He is labrador tame. But my retics have there own personality.
 
Umm, I don't have a pic of one. Best way for me to describe it is a green burm with bigger more full spots. And more of them. Id go to benrodgersreptiles.com I thinks thats his sight, he has a post on this board just below yours of "burms breeding" I think that's the title of it. Anyway his fauna name tag is BenR check him out :)
 
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