Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 29 (11 days ago)
So, I just checked the tracking info. All it says is billing info received. Did you get those shipped out yesterday?
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 29 (11 days ago)
So, were you waiting to send that out today? It's not a big deal just let me know what's going on. I have been waiting around the house for The snakes to arrive for no reason. I just don't want to get stuck with these tegus I don't need.
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
i sent them out yesterday ups must be being slow i gave you a tracking number so you know that i sent them out. i wont scam or do wrong to you man.
Joseph jenkins
to me
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
hey im worried have they arrived yet?
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
OK I believe ya man. But you need to call SYR and or UPS because they are supposed to have it here by 10#) AM for safety of the animal.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
NO I'm worried too.
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Joseph jenkins
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show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
what time is it there
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:34:48 -0400
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
Hey im sorry about the delay i called ups and they told me to go to the ups store where i got them from and see if they sent it off yet and they didnt i went there and the guy gave me my package we got into an argument because he says ups doesnt ship reptiles but of course they do and i told him that then he weighed the package and told me it wasnt 1lbs(which i already knew) but it was 6lbs. then i cursed him out and took my package because he told me not to bring it back their no more. so i will have to ship out on monday not today because if i go to the main ups warehouse i wont make it their in time for overnight packages so i have to deliver on sunday night im sorry for the delay and i meen well when i say that. but i will have to but another shipping label and ship them off on sunday night because this one was a waist of time. i really cant wait for the tegus and i will send on monday sorry once again.
Joseph jenkins
to me
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
is that ok with you?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:49:05 -0400
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
It's cool man. I just didn't know what was going on. I have had someone send me a shipping notification and never really sent it. It was on a day were we were supposed to ship on the same day. That's why I make people ship first now. I trusted you that's why I didn't get mad. You wont be able to send it off Sunday it will have to be Monday. It's coo man I can wait. I was just upset because I was waiting for it. I will be looking for it Tuesday, I will ship the tegus that same day. These things happen, I had the delay for you also. I just didn't want to have to keep these guys long because they will eat up all my worms lol. I am going to try some ground turkey today.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
I guess you should just print the whole email out when you goto the store in case they try to say they can't ship. Just to prove you can. You did use SYR right?
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
yep i did i told the guy that i said im shipping them using ship your reptiles and he looked at me with a dumb look.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:02:14 -0400
Joseph jenkins
to me
show details Apr 29 (10 days ago)
ok thanks for understanding yea trust is a hard thing to come by these days. i just didnt want them to die you know those heat packs dont last long and i love these snakes lol was hard to let them go but you know how girlfriends are and shes pregnant so yea. but i will be shipping them out at the main headquarters on monday afternoon and they will get to you on tuesday morning.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:55:00 -0400
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 30 (10 days ago)
Yeah I know how preggos go lol. I have a 4 year old myself. Like I said man things happen. I was worried that had died as well. I can't believe that they didn't even call you to tell you about it. I would call and report them and say that one of your snakes died and now you out money because they were paid for. I would go off at the corporate office. It's messed up that they offer the herp shipping but don't inform the employees. I would definitely mention that they told you not to come back. I would say that this will be the last one you ship through them unless something is done.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 30 (9 days ago)
Got the other guy today. I will tell you I really would love to keep him. He is so tame already. I've been hanging out with him all day. I'll send ya some pics after dinner.
Joseph jenkins
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show details Apr 30 (9 days ago)
oh ok you done eating yet lol.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:03:14 -0400
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details Apr 30 (9 days ago)
Yeah, sorry my little girl had a friend stay over and I just got them to sleep lol. Just give me a few mins man.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 1 (9 days ago)
Sorry for the delay. It took us for ever to get the little girl asleep. Here is the pics man.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 1 (8 days ago)
Well, I wanted to let you know that I was getting in a red tegu on Tuesday. I am willing to hook you up with him if you want him. If you want one of each I will do it for $100 extra. It's all up to you just thought I would mention it. I can send pics when it comes in. Also, did you get the pics?
Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 1 (8 days ago)
oh yea i got them. i would probably buy if i had the money for that one also. but as of now i dont.
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:47:59 -0400
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 1 (8 days ago)
That's cool man I just figured I would give you first dibs on it.I am going to try the tegus on ground turkey tomorrow. All you have to do is mix 1 teaspoon per pound of calcium supplement. Feed it to them raw and make sure you use lean turkey. I also keep lots of fresh fruit around. Offer that every day and the meat be it worms, turkey rodents every few days. That should ensure a tame tegu.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 2 (7 days ago)
Just touching base with you are you going to ship tomorrow? I wanted to let you know the Tegus both loved the turkey. You should never have to feed them rodents. It's the rodents that make them harder to tame. All you need to do is get them on the fruit and your golden. I have both of these guys pretty tame already for you. One is way more tame then the other though.
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Timothy Spears
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show details May 3 (7 days ago)
I was just notified that you canceled the label. What's going on man?
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 3 (6 days ago)
That was the old lable its no longer useful.
New one is
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the other one was the cancelled one
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 3 (6 days ago)
Awesome man can't wait to see them.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 4 (6 days ago)
They just got in man. They look great, thanks. I was wondering if you could tell me which one is the male and how to tell him apart. I will get these guys out to you this evening. I will be dropping them off around 6 or 6:30 pm.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 4 (6 days ago)
I just got home about an hour ago and my little girl came up to me and said " I played with the pretty lizard and he is really fast." I thought oh great we have to find her gecko again. But no she came up here and got one of the black and whites out. I have been looking for an hour. My girlfriend is still looking and I will continue when I get done writing this. I swear this has been one of those weeks. She knows better but she is 3. I just wanted to let you know whats going on. I have about 5 hours to find it before it's time to ship. If I can't find him I do still have the red and one black and white I just checked on them. Basically what I can do if I don't find it is either try to order you a new one, send you the red, or one of each if you want to send me $75.$75 is the best I can do on the red and B&W deal. I am not making anything on that deal I just figured it's the least I could do. And of course I can send back the carpets if you're not OK with the other offers. I will tell you what we have had the worst luck with this transaction. Just let me know what you want to do man. I have to be at the UPS store by 6:00 eastern time because they close at 6:30. Again I'm sorry I can't believe this happened she has had her butt spanked for this a few times. Last time she let a cage of rats loose and that was really fun. It was the only time I've ever been bitten by a rat. I really hope you don't choose to get the carpets back they are better looking than I expected. I will understand if that's what you want to do.I'll send you some pics of the red as soon as I can. It is awesome looking I would love to keep it for myself.
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 4 (6 days ago)
i can send the 75 dollarrs but it will be friday because thats when i get paid so if you can trust that then i can do it
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 13:04:25 -0400
**Here I gave him three options. Which were more than fair.**
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
I don't mind waiting until then Because of the situation man. I really glad you understand. I have never had this much trouble I swear, between the delayed shipment and the way UPS did you. I have been looking everywhere for him. I hope I find him. You are really going to love this red. I told my girlfriend I was going to keep it if you didn't want it lol. I am going to order another one for me if I can get one from the same clutch as it. I will snap some pics for you just as soon as I get some lunch in me I haven't had time to eat due to looking for the other little guy. Do you use Pay Pal if so it's this email address you need to use to pay. Also, Which one of the carpets is the male? If you can't explain it could you send a pic? I also meant to ask who produced them?
Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
I do use paypal and the way i can explain to you is that the smallest one is the male the biggest is the female and the middle is the female. ummm.... will you ship today or....?
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 16:10:56 -0400
Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
oh yea the guy who produced them name is james lassiter. he also produces scrub pythons and tiger rat snakes.
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
Yup I am a man of my word.It's my fault anyway man. I trust you to pay Friday. You sent me you snakes first it's the least I can do. I am about to head over there in a min. I haven't had a chance to take a pic but I am about to. I like to take pics of all the animals I get in. I am about to get about 4 reds in. I haven't got your red to eat ground turkey yet but the B&W was eating it out of my hand he is that tame.
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
oh wow i cant wait to see them.
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:12:49 -0400
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
Sorry time slipped away and I had to get them over to ship. So, I wasn't able to snap pics. They are on there way though. Email me and let me know when you get them. I always worry about the animals. Also, when you get it could you post in BOI. There is already a thread about me in there.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
Just let me know when you send the money so I can transfer it into my account. I would say I hope you like them but I know you will.
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
ok i will and lol i know i will like them thanks a-lot man. what type of fruit did you feed the tegu and what had you had the red eating?
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 4 (5 days ago)
The black and white ate some bananas and peaches. I didn't get to try fruit on the red. Just make sure you don't give them anything with seeds! They can't digest them. I like to get the light fruit cocktail that has pear juice instead of syrup. Mine always like the peaches and grapes out of it the best. Also, offer fresh fruit as well. I used the cocktail when I couldn't get fresh fruit. Give them whole eggs raw in the shell. Just crack the shell a little so they can smell it. The shell is a good source of calcium. Just try all different stuff they don't like the same thing all the time just like us. Just don't over feed. "meat" every 2 to 3 day as babies and every 3 to 5 as adult. Offer fruit everyday and if you use the ground turkey like me. Use extra lean and add one teaspoon of calcium supplement to it. I freeze it in meal sized chunks for easy fast thaws. I had the B&W eating out of my hand. Don't forget to let me know when they arrive.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 5 (5 days ago)
I see that they made it there. What do you think about them? Did they make it ok? Sorry I just get worried about the animals when they get shipped.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 5 (5 days ago)
So, what's going on man? I am assuming everything is OK since you haven't emailed me. I just worry about my animals. Email me as soon as you can to let me know that they are OK.
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 5 (4 days ago)
man these are amazing i love the color on the red one. the red is a little skiddish though i was taking it out and it ran but i got it. love them thanks a-lot.
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 5 (4 days ago)
I got the red in the same day I sent it out. So, I didn't have time to tame him down much. I'm glad you like them. Will you please leave me feedback in BOI and I'll do the same for you. There is already a thread in there about me. Take good care of them I wanted to keep that red so bad lol. If you ever have any questions feel free to ask. If you ever want more let me know I found someone I can buy them from that guarantees sex. Not to mention I'm going to start breeding them soon. Hit me up on Friday when you send the money so I know it's there.
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Tim spears
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 7 (2 days ago)
I was just wondering when you were going to send me that $75? Let me know what's going on.
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 7 (2 days ago)
yea i am tryin to send it now i almost forgot lol but its telling me that i need to get in contact with my bank and im doing so and im noticing that i have a negative balance on my banking log. i will have to see if i can borrow the 75 dollars to send you tomorow.
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 19:34:14 -0400
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 7 (2 days ago)
OK, man I just let me know when you send it tomorrow. I was really relying on this money, I need to make an order for the reptile show I'm doing. Please send it as soon as you can tomorrow.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 7 (2 days ago)
If your not able to come up with it you can just send the black and white back if you like. I have several people who want them.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 8 (2 days ago)
I would even pay shipping because of all the stuff that has gone wrong.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 8 (2 days ago)
I missed a word lol. I meant to say if you can't come up with the money you can just ship the B&W back and I will hep pay shipping. I would actually pay half just because all that has happened. I just really need some money for this order I need to make that's why I was OK with getting paid yesterday.
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**Again I waited until 5:00PM to contact him when I didn't get my money***
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 8 (1 day ago)
Just touching base with you man. I am just wondering whats going on. Are you going to send the money or the animal back? Just let me know asap. I need to place my new order.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 8 (1 day ago)
So, what's going on man I just want to know what's going on. I have a family to take care of and need to get my money some how. This is how I make my money right now. We agreed on yesterday for payment and then today and you haven't even contacted me. I am to the point were I just want to trade back. I have been patient with you, and I'm starting to get upset. Get back to me ASAP. As I said I have other buyers if you can't pay me for it and I will even split shipping with you this is the last time I will offer that. I already sold it to you at less than you can get it wholesale. So, come on at least let me know what's going on.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 8 (1 day ago)
Like I said on your visitor messages I am going to start a BOI thread if this isn't resolved. I don't want to be like this man., I just need the money bad. You have to understand you have a pregnant GF. If you can't afford it send it back.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 8 (1 day ago)
Ok, If I don't hear from you by midnight I have going to post the thread and call you local law enforcement and forward them our emails. Man like I said I know things happen and I'm not unreasonable. Just talk to me and let me know what you want to do that's all I ask.
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**He then waited just 8 minutes after the time I gave him to pay me to contact me**
Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 9 (1 day ago)
listen man ive got it hard enough that you dont want to give me more time i was trying to borrow the money but thats no use i told you my problem was that i have a negative balance in my bank account on top of that i owe paypal 130 something. then on top of that im starting on a bad day i have to pay for a busted window that someone busted out on my passenger side while i was at work and stole absolutley nothing. but guess what you sit here and threatin me with law enforcement because you say i owe you money listen here you sent me a red tegu which would be around 245 and a argintine black and white tegu which is around 145 dollars my carpets were 375 as a trio thats what they were worth as far as it goes you got a steal and i didnt complain then when you are about to send them off you suddenly loose one well your daughter looses the other black and white you was supposed to give me and to get money out of me you say "well ill send you the red for 75 dollars if you want" i mean really! nobodys perfect nobody has a perfect life or day and mynes wasnt too far off from awful. you dont want to give me time and reason with me then say that "your online and didnt answer my messages". hey im reasonable and guess what, that person that you are getting the order from should be too. all im asking you for is more time to get this cash but youve went too far with saying youre going to put me in the B.O.I. and basically splirt blasphimy about me. i dont get it i have done nothing wrong so either way whatever you do im still going to send you that 75 dollars. so contact my local law enforcement but you better come correct with them and the situation and put bad things about me on the B.O.I. BUT COME CORRECT WITH THAT TOO. so have a nice night and think.
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 9 (1 day ago)
Listen you told me you would have it today. You originally wanted to trade them for just the red tegu.Then you flip flopped and decided on the the B&Ws.I can't help what happened with the other B&W that's why I offered you such a good deal on the red with the other B&W. You could have said no if you were broke. you could have taken the original trade and everything what have been fine or took your snakes back. I was going to ship them back at my expense and this wouldn't have happened.And on top of all that you say your snakes are worth 375 now when you were asking 320 on your ad. I have been nice up until you decided not to get back with me when you were supposed to pay me when you were obviously online. Like I said I will trade you your snakes back or just take back the B&W. I don't see where the problem is. I can't wait for the money that's why I said Friday was fine that was the deal. I could have not even shipped until you paid but no I decided to be nice again and I got screwed. I will paste all of our emails in one text and let them decide. I am not misrepresenting the situation. I might have been hasty with mentioning the police, but when I couldn't get a response when you were supposed to pay me I got worried. It is already a day later than originally arranged.Shipping to send them back to me will be less then the $75 on top of that I said I would split it just to end this. It will only cost us $21 apiece. On top of it all I have my own family and my own bills to pay.I already took a hit on this because I sold you that for less than I paid for it. If you just ship back the B&W this will be over for $21. Also, I find it kind of funny you waited until 8 mins. after I gave you to take care of this to write me. That's really cute. Man seriously, Just end this and I wont even go through the whole BOI thing.
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Joseph jenkins
to me
show details May 9 (1 day ago)
hey im always logged on fauna but i dont be up there so by you knowing im online by a little green light says nothing. and as far as the 320 i lowered the price and put all my snakes up for trade because they werent selling. and yes i never responded because i didnt check anything because i wasnt online persay. and no i wasnt broke qvc went into my account and took out 2 payments of 273 because they messed up do you know what it feels like to work 7 days a week and on monday through thursday 12 hour shifts and come up with nothing in the end because of somone elses mess up and i get dicked in the long run and end up with 232 dollars in overdrafts not including what i have to pay paypal then discover my car broken into and comming up with money for that. look you WAS a resonable guy until this. i had money and its gone right now and im stuck i cant even pay bills this week because of that. all i want is a freaking extension on a payment but guess what.... YOU JUST WANT TO RUIN A REPUTATION ON FAUNA THAT I DONT EVEN HAVE.
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 9 (1 day ago)
Like I said we all have problems. I am in the same boat as you except I got hurt at work and cant work so this is how I'm supporting my family. I have bills to pay too man. I am not going to ruin your rep. Just send the tegu back and we will be all square and put this behind us. You seem like you need the $75 more than the tegu man. You will only be out another 20 bucks. I promise I will not post anything if you just make it right. Now if I do you have it in writing and that would make me a liar which I'm not. I don't think your out to get me man, lets just end it the easy way. You wanted just the red in the beginning, lets just put it behind us.
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ok lol you must have just glanced over what i sent you. ok how can i send the tegu to you if i have no money wat-so-ever. like i said man you will get your 75 dollars do i have to reinerrate that. you'll get the 75 dollars thats what you wanted thats what you'll get. and nobody said you was a liar at all don't know what you meant by that. but you are getting your 75 dollars.
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 9 (1 day ago)
The point I am trying to make is that I need the money now. If you send back the tegu I have it sold. I can't wait for the money. I will tell you this. I will buy the label and email it to you. You can pay me your half when you get it. I have things I need the money for now. I have several bills to pay and a show to get ready for. This is how I make my money. I gave you until friday because I needed the money then, Now my order is delayed. I need to get the animals asap so I can make sure they are eating well and healthy before the show. The money from the show pays my bills see what I mean.
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**All of a sudden he can have my money monday...**
Joseph jenkins
to me
show details 1:53 am (1 day ago)
dont send that label you will be waisting money. so ok i understand what youre saying though. so basically i just can pay you the 75 on monday then.
Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 9 (1 day ago)
I am trying to compromise. This is why people don't ship before payment. Not always because people are out to get you. Things happen sometimes. Just think If I would have said no I am going to wait and ship this wouldn't have happened. YOU said you would have it and here we are. I'm saying that I have to pay the guy tomorrow. SO I need the money now. All I have to do is write an email and I will have the money from the tegu from someone else. I just need the money to make this order. I really needed it yesterday and I would have had it here one tuesday. Now I have to wait until wednesday. The show is this weekend.
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Timothy Spears
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show details May 9 (1 day ago)
I can't wait that long. I wont get my animals in time.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details May 9 (1 day ago)
Like I said man why not just settle this now. This is how you build a reputation is compromise. It can't be one way or the other I just want to straight trade back myself and you want me to wait for money I can't wait on. So, lets meet half way and you just send back the one and it will be all over.
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Timothy Spears
to Joseph
show details 11:51 AM (16 hours ago)
OK since you refuse to work this out. I guess I have to wait for the money. I don't see why we can't find some middle ground. I have tried to work this out and your being unreasonable. Like I said good business is working things out not being stuck in your ways. I know you have a lot going on, but so do I. The only problem is your problems are out of your control and mine are in yours. I tired of trying to work it out with you. I am posting this in BOI at the end of the day if not resolved. I don't see why your being such an ass about it all. I will tell my little girl no dinner next week because daddy can't seem to get paid when he is supposed to. You don't seem to realize that I am just starting in this and each sale matters.
