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Not good in Wisconsin

Things like this is what will hang the rest of us, if we are not careful and deligent in what we do. There are no words to say the pictures say it all. :(....
I wish I could understand......
 
Okay, for awhile I have tried to stay out of this thread due to some horrible accusations as well as some other reasons.

I want to comment on the "rape" issue.

Coming from my own personal experience, most people dont report rape right after it happens. It takes more than you can even imagine believing that YOU didnt do something to bring it on. TRUST ME, I know.

As a kid, I was mollested, "raped", by a so-called family friend. The only reason it was NOT considered rape was because it started before I was 12 yrs old. It went on for THREE years before anyone knew anything about it. NO ONE suspected a thing.

You say that you would know but honestly, how could you unless they straight up tell you. You think you have MORE of a connection with a girlfriend, or boyfriend, than a parent? I am not belittling how you feel about the case whatsoever.

Unfortunately, there seems to be more than one victim in this situation. And, I dont necessarily mean the accuser themself. For one, the dogs. Two, the reptiles. Three, the mammals. Sure, Mr Cullen will have his day in court and he will be able to face his accuser, however, the animals will never be able to cross-examine Mr Cullen.

I am not saying that Mr Cullen is not innocent. In my eyes, a jury of his peers will hopefully make the right decisions throughout his case. He is also presumed innocent until proven guilty. But please, just because you may (or may not) know him, lets not judge hastily on him or the accuser.

Sorry if I got a little too personal as I dont talk about my life very much. I just hate seeing when someone cries rape, they become the accused. Happened to me as my parents friends took the side of the predator in my case EVEN AFTER he did it to five other boys just because he was a supposed "pillar of the community".

Thanks for being upfront about something that is SO important! I am so sorry you went through that, Dean!
 
Thanks for being upfront about something that is SO important! I am so sorry you went through that, Dean!

No need to be Dawn;) It may have killed the child I was but, it created the man that I am. The only reason I even went into that detail is just to point out that people do not always tell, if they even tell at all, upfront. It took years for me to even discuss it, let alone come forward with the accusation.
 
No need to be Dawn;) It may have killed the child I was but, it created the man that I am. The only reason I even went into that detail is just to point out that people do not always tell, if they even tell at all, upfront. It took years for me to even discuss it, let alone come forward with the accusation.

I am not sorry for the man that you are, I am sorry for the child that died while enduring that. I'm very glad that you have found peace with all that. :)
 
Wow, those pictures... Now I am really emotional... :( I hate to see any animal treated that way! Looking at that poor dead and rotting snake... oh my.
 
I was trying to remain neutral until I saw these photos. The conditions those animals were in is way beyond what I would have imagined. This thread has not had a lot of attention yet, but I hope everyone on here sees this so that no matter what, they never give this man animals again.
 
I was trying to remain neutral until I saw these photos. The conditions those animals were in is way beyond what I would have imagined. This thread has not had a lot of attention yet, but I hope everyone on here sees this so that no matter what, they never give this man animals again.

Beth, I am sure once everything is said and done, if Mr Cullen is guilty he will never touch another species again. However, if he is found innocent, I think he should be entitled to once again enjoy this hobby as much as we all do.

The photos were horrible and I feel for the animals in question. Being that we dont know where the photos originated from, I would hold off on any judgement until the case goes through the court system. Thats just me though.
 
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This is getting to the point its breaking my heart :(.I wish i could go to the area where all this happened and get the whole truth about this.I hate the media since they stretch everything out of proportion majority of the time.If this building was in this shape you would think the neighbors would have complained about the smell before all this.Who knows :shrug01:
 
This is getting to the point its breaking my heart :(.I wish i could go to the area where all this happened and get the whole truth about this.I hate the media since they stretch everything out of proportion majority of the time.If this building was in this shape you would think the neighbors would have complained about the smell before all this.Who knows :shrug01:

Some of those pics really make me wonder about fake pics. Not saying Mr Cullen is innocent but dang... the stench would be almost unbearable in some of those pics.
 
Some of those pics really make me wonder about fake pics. Not saying Mr Cullen is innocent but dang... the stench would be almost unbearable in some of those pics.
Yea thats what i would think also.I wish we had someone we could all trust to get us the whole story instead of bits and pieces.
 
Yes the smell would be bad to a normal person but just do a google search for "animal hoarding" - there are lots and lots of cases of people living in houses with everything coated in feces and with decaying cats and dogs right in their homes even in their beds and its as if they don't even notice AND they think they are doing a great job caring for the animals!


Some of those pics really make me wonder about fake pics. Not saying Mr Cullen is innocent but dang... the stench would be almost unbearable in some of those pics.
 
Yes the smell would be bad to a normal person but just do a google search for "animal hoarding" - there are lots and lots of cases of people living in houses with everything coated in feces and with decaying cats and dogs right in their homes even in their beds and its as if they don't even notice AND they think they are doing a great job caring for the animals!

They get use to the smell... but no the neighbors, I knew a family that had lots of Chickens in their basement (Why? Who knows!!), If were close to the house you could smell them.. not good.. but the family got use to the smell, and they didnt notice it at all... couple of weeks until neighbors complaint about it.. city came and remove them all...
 
I cannot believe that anyone would now be defending Terry Cullen after seeing these photos! Shame on you!
I know that everyone is upset and in an uproar over the state of affairs with reptile bans and what not, but GEEZE PEOPLE, put the blame where it belongs.....on Terry Cullen. HE is the one who let his animals get in this condition and gave more ammunition to those who would take away our rights to keep our pets.
 
I cannot believe that anyone would now be defending Terry Cullen after seeing these photos! Shame on you!
I know that everyone is upset and in an uproar over the state of affairs with reptile bans and what not, but GEEZE PEOPLE, put the blame where it belongs.....on Terry Cullen. HE is the one who let his animals get in this condition and gave more ammunition to those who would take away our rights to keep our pets.

Beth,

No one is defending him whatsoever since the photos have been posted. All I have said is that we should give him the "benefit of the doubt" until he is proven guilty in a court of law. If its good enough for our govt, why shouldnt it be good enough for Fauna?
 
Beth,

No one is defending him whatsoever since the photos have been posted. All I have said is that we should give him the "benefit of the doubt" until he is proven guilty in a court of law. If its good enough for our govt, why shouldnt it be good enough for Fauna?

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Reptile Roundup Animals Future Uncertain

Reptile Roundup Animals Future Uncertain

MILWAUKEE - Assistant Milwaukee City Attorney Jay Unora said it is "unlikely" that exotic animals seized from two south side properties will be returned to reptile enthusiast Terry Cullen.

Representatives from the police department, department of neighborhood services, city attorney's office, district attorney's office, Milwaukee Domestic Animal Control Commission (MADACC), Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, Racine Zoo and Milwaukee County Zoo are working on a plan for the long term care and placement of the creatures.

It will be a challenge to find homes for the more than 200 exotic animals linked to Cullen and his partner Jane Flint. There are questions about who has the proper facilities to care for alligators and crocodiles once kept in horse troughs. Experts say crocodiles actually need both water, dry land and a great deal of heat. One alligator was found huddled near a radiator, according to the criminal complaint.

"There's a sense of urgency," said Racine Zoo Director Jay Christie. "This is new territory and unprecedented in the city of Milwaukee."

Most of the reptiles are now at MADACC. Some are still in the same containers. Unora said in a statement that the animals have been cleaned, watered, fed and given medical attention.

Investigators call the conditions the animals were held in "putrid" and "terrible." They found live mice cannibalizing dead ones, turtles in tupperware and giant African pouched rats in tiny cages.

Despite what investigators say, Cullen's attorney Stephen Glynn defended his client's animal care last week.

"The explanation for the condition of many of these animals is that is exactly the way these animals are to be kept," Glynn said.

Glynn and another attorney said to be representing Cullen did not return phone calls on Friday.
 
Reptile Roundup Animals Future Uncertain

Investigators call the conditions the animals were held in "putrid" and "terrible." They found live mice cannibalizing dead ones, turtles in tupperware and giant African pouched rats in tiny cages.

Despite what investigators say, Cullen's attorney Stephen Glynn defended his client's animal care last week.

"The explanation for the condition of many of these animals is that is exactly the way these animals are to be kept," Glynn said.

Ouch, thats REALLY going to help the cause. Turtles in tupperware is are how we are supposed to keep them? Granted, I dont know the size of the turtles or the tupperware in question but dang, dont ruin it for the rest of us when govt agencies call your setup "putrid" and "terrible" and you state thats how its supposed to be?

Idiots running amuck.:yesnod:
 
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