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Adam at Millenium Morphs...give me my money

Offering someone a $2000 credit towards a future animal is worthless when you know that he will never do business with you again. Now, throw $500 on top of the $2600 you owe him and that's another story.

Griz
 
WOW 30 people currently looking at this thread

Maybe we should go to fox 5 with this one....



I will never make my point and it is way to late for convincing people of anything.

MATT WILL BE PAID MONDAY AND HAVE A 2K CREDIT FOR HIS TROUBLES..............
 
Duthoven..........read This

Like I said money is not the issue......


$500. on top is no problem .....

I was tring to be nice to MATT and offer him 2k

If Matt would like an extra $500. That will be fine....


IS THAT FAIR ENOUGH

Money is not the object here folks..........I already said that
 
They say third times a charm so here it goes(again)

Adam,

I asked before but maybe you missed it, what did you mean by this;

"I have had enough of this rediculous B.S. and want everyone to know that I honestly feel like this BOI is the most rediculous place to dispute a business transaction. It obviously works, but not nessessarily to the person who deserves it."

It's the last sentence that has me thinking

will you answer this time?
 
It is only 2K more IF you send it to him. I would guess Matt is not going to be doing business with you at all in the future, so in reality he is not getting "2K on top as well......"

You should really think about returning(not refunding, you did not send him anything) Matt's money tonight. He is being kind by not filing that paperwork tonight, he has given you a lot of time through this transaction before he finally decided to ask for his money. In court you do not have a leg to stand on.
 
MillenniumMorph said:
Seems to me like you should be spendingmore time with that 3 year old of your than goppiping on the internet. Doent he need to eat, or take a bath.

Take care of your child and get off the comupter.....
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Ummm...I am actually in my office...
I am the general manager of a successful and profitable company...so I understand dealing with customers...I do it on a daily basis.
My child is at home being taken care of by my wife.

Just what the hell is "goppiping" anyway?




MillenniumMorph said:
you wrote this

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Originally Posted by MillenniumMorph
I have finally offered you your full refund be Monday and a $2,000. credit on top of it all and you are going to contiue with you BS......

It sounds to me that you are the one in a financial jam and that is why you demanded a refund from the start. Monday is no good now. And $2,000. on top is no good either....


This is why I think you are joke.......I hope everyone see's what I see.

File with the courts...You will get nowhere. I am done......




Who wrote this?
Seems like you did.

I don't need to call you...
I have a 3 year old to talk to at home



Where does it say that I am not paying him......

He is getting paid ... get over it already
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Ummm...let ME spell it out for YOU

And I QUOTE "Monday is no good now. And $2,000. on top is no good either....

Ummm...that sure doesn't sound like you intend to pay him...
Unless you forgot you said this...even though I quoted it to you once...and you quoted it BACK to me...

You are now claiming that you do INDEED intend to pay him?
If that is so...please clarify so the people following this thread can understand what is going on in that small world you live in inside your own mind.
 
Bighaze

I meant that nobody on the board know the real deal behind the story and they are making statements on a situation that they were not involved in..

Nobody was involved on the phone converstions that we had. Matt can denie all of them. I can care less. But inside he knows that we disussed shipping and he wasok with it....

Just like we discussed a payment plan and I was ok with it. If I would have sold the snake on him after 30 days and said he didnt pay me quick enough, I would be dead wrong.

That is what he is doing here. We agreed on shipping regardless on when or how long it was after payment and he was fine with it.....No theres a problem and he comeshere. Just flat out wrong!

Thats why I was stuborn in the beginning because I felt I was right. We agreed on shipping and then he made a stink ablout it. The I told him he would have hisanimal the very next day and he made an excuse and said no. Now I just want my cash.....He probably got into a jam and needed cash so he figured he would come here and make a reputable company look bad and he might have a shot at getting his cash refund. Well it worked.

And now he is getting his cash after he has madethe situation into a rediculous pile of Sh-T.

That is what I meant. It worked for him....
 
Adam, if you in fact refund Matt back $3100 this coming Monday ($2600 + $500 for his troubles), then I for one will be impressed. Will I ever do business with you? No, I most certainly will say that I will not. However, the $500 will at least help Matt with the sting I would think.

Griz
 
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I meant that MONDAY IS NO GOOD NOW FOR HIM......

I am sending Mondayeither way. But that is what he said.............Read.

And if you are the managerof a successful company and you are in your office you should be fired for playing games on the computer like a 7th grade high school girl.....

Go back to work. Go manage your crew buddy........

I do not know what else I can do here. I have agreed to refund his money like everyone has said I should do and add 2k in credit on top and that is not good enough.....

WOW
 
Adam, you agreed on a shipping date and you did not ship. Matt is TIRED of WAITING on YOU. If you are not going to be honest than you should not be in business. Who cares if you agreed on a payment plan, your TOS says you accept them. Please stop bringing that up as if you were being So Nice to have accepted payments.
 
Adam, before you get too upset you should know that fowl language and insults are not accepted here. You do not want to add that to your reputation.
 
No, I am not in a financial jamb. I was tired of dealing with someone that would not ship what I paid for months earlier.

As far as a credit or an extra $500, I don't want that. I simply want back what you took from me.

Also, you still claim money isn't the problem, but you have ignored many requests to answer one simple question: "Why do we have to wait until Monday for this to be over?" It is only Wednesday. This could all be over so soon if you call your CC company right now and have the charge reversed and then go down to the post office and send a money order. I'll ask again, why wait?

Matt Crabe
 
Dutchoven .....

Dutchoven, if he would like that......

The comment about never doing business with me is foolish....

One bad transaction that I still beleive is not my fault ( That i am making more than good on) and you could say such a thing.

Talk to the couple of thousand people like DEMBINSKI that will continue to do business with me in the future because I been nothing but professional with them and have never made a bad transactin.

I have thousands of good dealing and this one deal that I made good on will make you say that.

NO PROBLEM........then go to one of my good friends in the business and buy your animals. I have no problem with them.

Sorry for your negitive feelings.....
 
Adam, my negative feelings on this came about solely due to how you behaved. This situation was very clearly cut and dry for me from the facts that BOTH of you presented. It offended me that you were twisting the facts and trying to diminish the value in Matt paying you off early etc just so that you might be viewed in a positive light. That right there showed me your character and was enough for me, and the NUMEROUS other people on this thread to not buy from you. Don't you find it odd Adam that not one single person on this thread has supported you on this particular transaction? That alone should tell you that you need to rethink your position. Even after all of this, for whatever reason, you are still viewing yourself in the light of being the bigger person. That's all the justification I need in making my decision.

Griz
 
I just don't think anyone would agree on shipping with out having a date set, I know I wouldn't.

"We agreed on shipping regardless on when or how long it was after payment and he was fine with it"

You are asking me to take your word that he knew he would be here, in October, with out the snake, or money, sorry but I just don't buy it.

Tell me one thing, WHY? He wainted to breed her this year, so I have a hard time beliveing he knew he wouldn't have her by now.

But thanks for replying to the question.

You know one thing you could do now. Take $2600.00 from that pile of 10 grand you have on your table, get a postal MO, send it to matt overnight.

It seems to me you just want to make him wait, and that is WRONG anyway you look at it.
 
Adam, it does not surprise me if you have a lot of repeat customers. With great quality and a lot of work many people are satisfied with your business. Though it is this one transaction that can make a lot of people question you. At a show and in person I may be interested and buy something that you have, I do not doubt your quality. Purchasing from you accross country that is another story.
 
MillenniumMorph said:
I meant that MONDAY IS NO GOOD NOW FOR HIM......

I am sending Mondayeither way. But that is what he said.............Read.

And if you are the managerof a successful company and you are in your office you should be fired for playing games on the computer like a 7th grade high school girl.....

Go back to work. Go manage your crew buddy........

I do not know what else I can do here. I have agreed to refund his money like everyone has said I should do and add 2k in credit on top and that is not good enough.....

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Monday shouldn't be good for him...
You delayed for two months...agreed to a refund...and then didn't communicate with him for a MONTH...not until this was brought to the BOI.
It is Wednesday...take care of it...instead of sitting on YOUR computer complaining about all the unfairness in the world...

I am the general manager of a successful company because I work long hard hours...in fact...while I am wasting my time attempting to get you to see the folly of your ways...I have been writing two proposals...an invoice...and took three calls. Multitasking at it's best...besides I answer to the owner only...and the foreman under me handle their crews quite well...that is why I hired them...my management of my company is not in question here...so don't change the subject...

Maybe part of the problem is that where you're from 7th grade is considered high school...maybe even college.
MillenniumMorph said:
like a 7th grade high school girl
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MillenniumMorph said:
That is what he is doing here. We agreed on shipping regardless on when or how long it was after payment and he was fine with it.....No theres a problem and he comeshere. Just flat out wrong!

Thats why I was stuborn in the beginning because I felt I was right. We agreed on shipping and then he made a stink ablout it. The I told him he would have hisanimal the very next day and he made an excuse and said no. Now I just want my cash.....He probably got into a jam and needed cash so he figured he would come here and make a reputable company look bad and he might have a shot at getting his cash refund(!?). Well it worked.
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:eek: (speechless)
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Adam you said"
One bad transaction that I still beleive is not my fault ( That i am making more than good on) and you could say such a thing."

You keep going on and on about how your making this right and doing the right thing ETC ETC yet as the saying goes Actions Speak Louder than Words! So give the guy action instead of words and take care of this now.Your showing everyone how you don't handle a bad transaction, why would anyone want to take a risk with you after seeing this?

Any reasonable person can see that the vast majority here disagree with how you have handled this transaction and how you have handled yourself here. You say we don't see your side of this situation and your right we don't see why you don't do the right thing here and why you didn't do the right thing and send the animal in a timely manner. We don't see this your way because your wrong plain and simple.

Give the guy his money back as you said yourself ASAP. Stop trying to convince anyone here that you are in the right in this matter, that dog don't hunt. Get this over with and off the top of the BOI before people see this thread (your shooting yourself in the head here) Take a look at how many have read this thread and wonder how many might have been possible future customers.

Randy
 
Adam,

I am glad to see that you're going to issue the refund immediately. Your additional offer to Matt is generous, and I hope he utilizes it in order to give both of you a second chance at doing good business together.

I still stand by my interpretation of your business practices as less than acceptable. I hope that you can maintain an open mind while reading other people's opinions, as well as mine. There are many people on this board that have a tremendous amount of business experience. Any good business person knows that there is always room for improvement.
 
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