Adam Block banging on the door

[Classic Dum's]

, WHY did you buy the snake from them in the first place?

Interesting point Wes, building on that why did he demand a 1/2 value replacement instead of a refund? If I had bought an animal from someone it died supposidly found all this bad info out about them, supposidly found that the line it came from had a genetic defect the last thing in the world I would want number 1 would be another animal from them, number 2 another animal from that line. While what I stated earlier in Dereks thread was just my opinion its because if things like that are why I beleive this was an elborate set up.


Adam or Derek preferably the both of you so we can start getting to the bottom of this give me a no bull[bleep] answer on these questions and dont dance around it with some long drawn out bla bla bla. Just a straight up answer.

Can you show an unaltered version of the vet report? If so why not? Why was the report altered in the first place?

Just answer those will ya?

 

[Adam Block]

If it's so terrible, though not proven,

Um, you must have missed the feedcard NERD sent, it is proven.

We know you lie derek

I may have missed this but what did Derek lie about again? He wasn't part of the NERD thread if I recall.

further their criminal attempts and activities.

Okay this I don't get at all? What crime was commited and why wasn't anybody charged? I NEVER asked Kevin for any money or even to replace an Albino Ball Python.

how to ruin your reputation

When did I get a reputation? I don't even sell snakes.

Congradulations guys, you win the prize.

Okay I'm going to be waiting for this. I hope you're not telling a lie.

Ever notice Jason flat out lies about the photos on his site not being Chad's and I don't care enough to bring it up thread after thread. I even post photos showing the guys lying but nobody cares. However I even say okay okay enough fine I'm lying let it go and you all still don't give up. Whatever, it's just starting to look like a joke to everybody and you guys are making yourself look really stupid.

 

[Wilomn]

You got some mice in your pocket adam? Because your everybody seems to be you and derek only.

Wes Pollock

 

[Classic Dum's]

Ever notice Jason flat out lies about the photos on his site not being Chad's

Show me a quote were I stated the feeders in the pics are not Chads? They may be, who cares your grasping at straws. The FACT is unless requested or otherwise noted when someone places an order with me over the net they will get rodents packaged exactly like the ones in the photos. Yes adam some people do prefer rodents already packed in zip lock bags. If the have one snake that eats small rats and I send them rats that are vacuum sealed once they break the bag they have to go buy zip locks to reseal them in. So some people ask me to send them ones already packaged that way. So go one keep spinning and lieing no where are you going to find a qoute where I said the rodents in the pics where not Chads all I said was I package mine exactly like his. When I took that pic it was before I packaged mine that way Adam. I used to zip lock mine like most other people well you and I both know Chads are the best quality rodents by leaps and bounds that can be found anywhere. I wanted to provide the same quality, shame on me.

Now instead of trying to drag this off topic why not answer these questions I am simply looking for answers. I would like to peice the truth togther Adam because I believe what I said in Dereks thread is right on the money and if that is so you are the lowest of the low. We all know you lie so much you cant keep track of your own lies. so none of us have a very high opnion on you. However if my theory is correct and you atempted to scam/rip off Kev the way I think you did thats way beyond what anyone has ever thought of you. I hope to god I am wrong so yes Adam I want to the truth stop trying to drag this off topic and answer these questions

Can you show an unaltered version of the vet report? If so why not? Why was the report altered in the first place?

 

[Adam Block]

Mine are packaged exactly as Chads are.

All the rodents he gets from me are bagged not vacuum sealed.

Jason, get your story straight! So are your rodents packed the same as Chads or bagged! Now that you're a known proven convicted liar that's been exposed too maybe ah, we can let this go?

I produce several thousand rats and mice a month and still buy $500 or so from chad a week

Wow, that's not what I hear. Tax people know about this? Wait, Classic Dumb's even have a business license? I mean, if you're buying $2000 in rodents from him a month and making 50-100% profit that's like $1000 a month. I'm sure you're claiming that though in addition to the $2000+ a month you're making from your own rodents.

<b>Wess I am not answering Adam because IMO hes and idiot</b>

Now Adam are you really that lame??? Last year when you took forever to ship my 50 or so water bottle nozels how many did I tell you I would be in need of in the near future????

Maybe you should have stuck to this. LOL

 

[Classic Dum's]

Mine are packaged exactly as Chads are.

I stand by that, all internet sales unless otherwise noted or requested by a costumer are packaged exactly as chads. Chad isnt my only supplier ask him yourself

All the rodents he gets from me are bagged not vacuum sealed.

That would be because some come from a differant supplier and the ones I produce Jim wants bagged because they are cheaper that way. I have to charge more for vacuum sealed ones because the trays and vacuum seal bags cost more then zip locks. He also happens to be another costumer that prefers zip lock bags so he doesnt have to buy zip locks to reseal open vacuum seal bags.

Tax people know about this?

Well considering my sister does my books and works for the IRS in DC I think its safe to say they are aware of this so try something else Adam. Maybe I should have her look into your return from last year and see if all 500 snakes you claim to have sold were on there, what do ya think about that one?

I produce several thousand rats and mice a month and still buy $500 or so from chad a week

Well thats changed since that post now its only $200 a week or so because I havent bought any rats off him since then, my colony finally caught up I had two new rack units that I started getting production out of since then and for the time being I am keeping up on my own. Since you seem so interested in talking to someone on the phone you can call and verify all this with Chad if you like. However before you ask him to verify my facts I would suggest you take care of this

all below quotes posted by Adam

There is also nobody I owe anything
close to $500!"

ops sorry wrong quote I meant this one

I owe Chad Martin like $360 or there abouts.

ahhh crap thats not the right one either, well try again

I said I owed nobody in TX $500! I don't owe anybody in TX $500!

DOUP that aint it either, damn well get to it sooner or later

We've shown that I owe Chad Martin someplace in the area of $360-$500."

Ahh there it was, finally! After you get done taking care of that debt(over a year old) then go ahead and verify with him what I have said.

Now in the mean time can we stay on topic. This thread isnt about my rats nor about the lies you didnt catch me in its about Can you show an unaltered version of the vet report? If so why not? Why was the report altered in the first place?

 

[Adam Block]

Hey buddy, give me a call and I'll get your fax number

BTW Kevin giving you a new stereo system to go with that plasma for looking into this or you just bored?

Oh, also since you're so out to finding facts and the truth, you ever find out why Kevin underfed his snakes so badly? Sort of poor care to go 6 weeks on feedings.

 

[Classic Dum's]

Hey buddy, give me a call and I'll get your fax number

No fax, scan it and post it here

BTW Kevin giving you a new stereo system to go with that plasma for looking into this or you just bored?

what happened twisting my words and looking for lies that wernt there didnt work so now we gotta side track it with this.

Oh, also since you're so out to finding facts and the truth, you ever find out why Kevin underfed his snakes so badly? Sort of poor care to go 6 weeks on feedings.

Stop trying to side track Adam I am trying to have a logical conversation with you so lets start with the vet report and go from there

Can you show an unaltered version of the vet report? If you cant why not? Why was the report altered in the first place?

 

[Adam Block]

I quote today from the Webgod...

As for the Adam Block/Ritchie Luna/ Jason Sweigart "love triangle" I think that all three of you better start ignoring each other. Pronto.

I'll agree with this and be the first to step up to the plate and be an adult. No more comments from to either of them unless it's positive and about a thread we're focused on helping with.

Can you two also be adults about this?

Let's show we can all have some respect for the man who's put this site together.

If you honestly wanna know the facts call me. I won't BS you, I white lied about some things and I'll tell them to ya. Most is the truth but where it isn't I'll fill you in.

 

[HerpVenue]

Hey anyone else notice that Adam will either change the subject , or ask us to drop it, or try to call truce?
All this after inviting us to participate in his thread.
All this just so he won't answer the questions.
All this just to keep dancing around the facts.
Dance monkey boy DANCE !!!!

I NEVER asked Kevin for any money or even to replace an Albino Ball Python.

You never asked Kevin to replace the albino ball python with at least a het? Should I go get the quotes or will you just admit that you just told ANOTHER LIE?

When did I get a reputation? I don't even sell snakes.

I guess the over 500 snakes you owned were all given away free. Plus it is not just about snakes. You also sold other stuff. And the available page on your website was just my imagiation.

I may have missed this but what did Derek lie about again?

You are right. Derek never lied. He just did not tell the whole truth.

He wasn't part of the NERD thread if I recall.

1. WOW I was not part of the kingsnake thread....and it did not stop you from involving me.

2. Actually he is part of the NERD thread. He just did not post in it. After all the ball python did supposedly stay at his house.......REMEMBER

Um, you must have missed the feedcard NERD sent, it is proven.

Are you sure that feed card did not belong to another snake that was a trouble feeder? You don't have proof do you? I have some snakes here that are trouble feeders......does it mean I underfeed my snakes?

First I'm lying for putting "Sold Out" on my page, then Rich says he's done that too and you drop it.

1. Rich Actually produces what he says he sold out of.
2. The albinos you had were NEVER for sale
3. You have never even produced albinos.

First Kevin can do no wrong, then we see feed card showing very underfed snakes and you forget about those too.

1. underfed snake which was probably a trouble feeder.
2. you don't know which snake the feed card belongs to.

Do you know, when I emailed Ritchie about the dead ball and gave him the people to call and verify all the other dead animals he NEVER CALLED!! He said he had somebody call but this was a lie as none of those breeders got a call about NERD.

1. Actually I NEVER EVER posted that I called any of those people.
2. I in fact can say I NEVER EVER called any of those breeders.
3. The cage maker......the one you say owns part of NERD was called......the person who called got laughed at when he asked if they own part of NERD.
4. So I asked you if you wanted me to call that list of BIG breeders to ask them if their ball pythons from NERD dies.
(I mean come on. They are the BIG breeders who produce their own ball pythons....and you expect me to call them and ask if they bought ball pythons from NERD? If I produce in the TONS and TONS of morph ball pythons......why would I buy one or two of the same morphs I produce? And why would I discuss with a TOTAL NOBODY over the phone which of my animals have died and from whom? Yes Adam.....TOTAL Nobody. That is you.)

5. Adam, you expect me to believe you called the big breeders and they totally poured their hearts out to a complete stranger on what ball pythons have died? (That is why I prefer print. You can't bull<font color=red>[boink]</font> your way out of anything)



Adam I got your message. You sound like a nice and sincere guy.
And you know this. That is why you so desparately want people to call. So you can bull<font color=red>[boink]</font> them over the phone and you think it will make everything okay.


post the truth right here and right now and this would all be over.
What do you keep trying to hide?

 

[Classic Dum's]

Adam what he is referring to is all this petty bickering and argueing. I dont think he would have the slighest problem at all with a logical conversation. In any event I got your pm, I have absolutly no intentions of speaking to you on the phone. However I will met you half way and we can take this up either via email or you derek ritchie and I can take this up in another forum thats been abandon somewhere. You admit to lieing so look at it through my eyes. I do not trust you so I am not willing to speak to you on the phone then play he said she said however it is the truth I am after I will met you half way and take this up via email or another. What I beleive actually happened is VERY disturbing to me. While I dont have a high opinion of you and wouldnt put much past you what I think happened is even beneath what I think of you. So in a sense I guess I am trying to be in denial about it. If another forum is an option you are willing to Ill ask Rich maybe he would be kind Enough to set up a private forum where the 4 of us can take this up and no one else can interject. But those are the options. THE PHONE IS NOT! Ill say it again the phone is not an option!

 

[Adam Block]

I won't even respond, you have my number, you want facts they're on the other end. You wanna play games and ignore the Webslave keep up the childish games in here. I think it's clear to most your intentions here are not good. Funny that 3 people that use the BOI have called me asking about this but neither of you do. My feeling is that anybody who really cares or wants to know already does. The fact that Seamus and even Neil have called me says a lot about what you're both up to.

 

[Classic Dum's]

Adam the simple fact of the matter is if you had anything at all worth while to say you wouldnt fear saying it here. I offered to met ya half way and do it via email. The only reason you dont want it that way is because it doesnt leave you with any room to do like you tried to do here

There is also nobody I owe anything I owe Chad Martin like $360 or there abouts. I said I owed nobody in TX $500! I don't owe anybody in TX $500!We've shown that I owe Chad Martin someplace in the area of $360-$500."

and that would be lie your way out of it.

I think it's clear to most your intentions here are not good.

My intentions are simple to get the truth. Something you so desperatly are trying to hide. So to you my intentions are not good. As far as Neil and seamus. Who cares that Neil called you he cant post here as far as Seamus hes well spken enough that if he believed you or was on you side like your trying to imply Im sure hed post here.

You wanna play games

Oh first you make up all these lies you claim to have caught me in, that doesnt work out so you run the train off track AGAIN. That doesnt work and now I am the one playing games, makes sense

or wants to know already does.

You are right we know that you can be very good at putting on total displays of bull<font color=red>[boink]</font>

Now for 5 minutes can you stay on track and answer these questions?
Can you show an unaltered version of the vet report? If you cant why not? Why was the report altered in the first place?
Its just a couple of simple questions Adam why are you afraid to answer them?

Just 5 minutes Adam

 

[Adam Block]

Jason, (803) 466-1359, super easy, pick up your phone, enter those numbers and I'll answer anything you wanna know.

I know how bad it sucks to be called out but your unwillingness to make a phone call makes it pretty clear it's the the facts you're interested in.

 

[Wilomn]

I know how bad it sucks to be called out but your unwillingness to make a phone call makes it pretty clear it's the the facts you're interested in.

adam, the above is from your last post. Do you ever read them before you hit submit?

It is pretty clear that it is the facts jerry is after. It is pretty clear why he won't talk to you on the phone.

I see you removed sagacious from your profile. Good first step. Now practice patience and maybe take a little time off. If you won't post it here no one well believe you. You do have a slight credibility problem.

Wes Pollock

 

[Classic Dum's]

It is pretty clear that it is the facts jerry is after

Whos Jerry?

Adam I told ya before DO NOT CALL ME!!! I got your message on my machine I will not return nor will I answer when you call, if by some mistake I do I will hang up on you.
Here I explain it to ya this way ok. If we were to speak and I came back and said something you claim not to have said, I got a feeling most everyone would believe me. So if its all typed out I cant relay the conversation in my favor. Does that work for ya?Anything you have to say to me you can type right here. What are you afraid of?

Can you show an unaltered version of the vet report? If you cant why not? Why was the report altered in the first place?

 

[Wilomn]

Ooops, I meant jason.

Wes Pollock

 

[Classic Dum's]

LOL I guess I had that one coming huh LOL

 

[Python Dreams]

Adam,
Alot of people have read this thread and the other few that you were involved in... Why must anyone call you to get the information? Most people dont want to talk to you (dont know you and you have displayed some less than admirable behavior along with multiple lies), spend money on a phone call, nor waist the time... They would assume that since you brought this to a public forum that they could just read the truth here. What is so hard about posting the truth? You don't even understand why the phone call is not a possibility... Reread some of your threads and the reasoning they dont want anything other than conversation in writing... It should be crystal clear.. I have a weird feeling it is not though...
Thanks,
Tom Baker

 

[Classic Dum's]

Reread some of your threads and the reasoning they dont want anything other than conversation in writing... It should be crystal clear.

If he would be willing to continue this in another "private" thread untill this was finished I would be all for that but to make sure things are crystal clear email as well as the phone is out. I dont want there to ever be room for anyone involved to claim something was altered(email) or said that wasnt said(phone). Anyway just wanted to ad that.


Can you show an unaltered version of the vet report? If you cant why not? Why was the report altered in the first place?