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Intense Herpetoculture said:
I would just hate to be the person who buys one for several hundred dollars and they drop dead.

What is the lesser of the two evils here?

1) Lose several hundred on an animal that you'll buy from Al Ortiz because he doesn't care for the animals properly.

2) Lose a thousand or more in deposit money to Justyn Miller and grow old listening to excuses why you haven't received those animals or grow old trying to get your deposit money back.


You two SUCK!!!

They say only the good die young so I'm expecting you two scumbags to live forever.

And that SUCKS!!!

Why don't you two schmuck's just have a duel with shotguns over this? The world would be a better place.
 
Well, I guess Al did get in Atheris and Water Cobras from an exporter. Low and behold, he only tells lies, sometimes! I just got the confirmation today.

What bothers me is Al's health certificate from the Congo. It's fake! It even has a fake exporter permit number and forged signatures fro officals! A huge violation from the Lacey Act, none of these guys were exported legally. They were smuggled in a way, just unknowingly due to Al's stupidity. Once USFWS is alerted to this those animals might have to go to a safe place, any zoos need Atheris or water cobras? I know a few that might be taken away from a certain someone here soon.

How do I know it's fake, well, I have a copy, from a good friend. How do I know it's fake? Because my exporter tried the same tricks on me with a fake one (they cost less then a real one and are easier to get). One of the reasons my shipments kept getting delayed is because getting a real one took a little time.

Man, those Lacey Act violations SUCK. Good things I had my ducks in a row, otherwise I might be have the same problems you and your partner are about to have (sorry Joe, you don't seem like a bad guy, just not too start teaming up with Al). Al, stop playing importer and get a life. I hope no one pays you for those animals, they won't have them for long!

More news coming soon!
 
Post the copy of Al's (Joe's) permit and since most readers don't know the difference between a fake one and a real one. Point out the discrepancies.
 
I am not going to post that senstive information here. I think USFWS can handle this from here and Al can tell you about it later.

rthom said:
Post the copy of Al's (Joe's) permit and since most readers don't know the difference between a fake one and a real one. Point out the discrepancies.
 
If it's so sensitive how did you get it so fast? Smells a little like Barbara Strisand (BS) to me
 
I know ALOT of people in the Congo. Other the past year I've made a lot of friends. Unlike Al, I didn't get his paperwork from the airlines, so nothing illegal done here. Why not give Al a chance to post it and block out any unnessacery info he wants to? If Al says it is alright I'll post a copy for him.

I put in my FOIA request yesterday and in a few weeks I'll have the offical copies (well, copies of them) from USFWS. Until then I be sure to fax over what I know to the people here and have them take a look at it. What is also troubling is Al's water cobras might not be the same species as the health certificate, export papers, or transit paperwork. Yet another violation! This will have to be looked at with the animals at hand. Man, and I wanted to be the first one to import B. chrysti. Oh well, mine can be the first LEGAL specimens if that is in fact what species Al got. Still not sure about that, but from the exporters descriptions, there is a good chance.

Al, enjoy your HOT snakes and in the future don't try to screw me over again, I'm making sure I watch your every possibly illegal step. I know my laws better then most, apperently better then you.

rthom said:
If it's so sensitive how did you get it so fast? Smells a little like Barbara Strisand (BS) to me
 
Justyn everything you've posted in this thread is just conjecture on your part. YOU have not provided anything at all to substantiate one word of your claims here. As you know the BOI requires you to provide proof, not send faxes or to get the proof down the road. You made the claims so where is this proof to back them up???

Quote/ Al, enjoy your HOT snakes and in the future don't try to screw me over again, I'm making sure I watch your every possibly illegal step. I know my laws better then most, apperently better then you. /Quote

So you knew that taking peoples Money and not providing the service or product that you accepted that money for was Illegal . So you knowingly broke the law then.... Oh and we all make spelling errors ETC but if you look down at the bottom of the page you'll see a little Icon called spell check, give it a try will ya... Randy
 
Yes, I should use spell check, thank you for the advice. I have issues with proper letter placement due to spinal condition that makes it difficult to type on the keyboard. I tell my hands one thing, they move a different finger. It is amazing I can type at all, I litterally have NO feelings in my hands, not the slightest bit, they are numb.

As for everything I've posted in this thread? I started this thread out with screen shots of e-mails, many of them backing up my very claims. Now I'm working on a whole new bag and I'll post copies of documents soon enough (I want to give Al a chance to explain himself first), as well as obtain the official copies from USFWS.

Al doesn't even disagree with me saying he lied about certain events, I've asked Al over and over again about these lies and he has never ONCE addressed them. Doesn't that seem odd to you? He can answer everything else, but not those questions. He could simply call me a lair, but he has not even done that. If this was the other way around, with Al being in my shoes, you guys would have feed me to the pigs by now. Al has gone out on another forum and asked his buddies to gain up on me. He got me banned and deleted my ads ONLY for personal reasons. He abused HIS powers. He did it at TRR too, deleting a post which did not respond to his thread the way he wanted. This guy is hiding something, many somethings.

As for me taking peoples money for animals, I had EVERY intention to provide EVERY animal I had every taken money for. Events last year from 4 shipments coming at once (within 10 days), a venomous snake bite happening at that time (Saw Scaled Viper), and needing to make up for lost time for my pond business and all these issues came together which led to animals dying and shipments delayed. I took on more then I could chew. The shipments were orginally set to come in 2 weeks from each other.

When I had animals die I tried to reorder them from my supplier to replace the dead animals. I was unable to, the airlines put an embargo on live reptiles (do you want em to post that e-mail?) from the Congo. I got ONE airline to life the embargo, but they they refused to work with my supplier, I fixed that. Then the partner airlines refused to fly the animals to the USA, fixed that, and another issues, fixed that. I have shown to EVERYONE that I have done EVERYTHING to fix these issues. I have repaid many people or provided them with animals for the debt. They are more then welcome to come on line on fauna and post, but I am not going to ask them, it is there choice, just like it was there choice to post in the first place. I am not going to call them out by name unless they ask em to or say I did not settle the debt with them.

I made a huge mistakes, but I own it. Al, he acts like his lies don't exist. He thinks he can push me around because I'm an easy target. He thinks he can take my hard work and use it for his advantage. I'm not going to let that happen. He tried to take a shortcut and steal my info. Now I am making sure he did everything legally, and he didn't. He should be the one of the offensive, not me. He is the one (and Joe) which will have to deal with the laws they broke, just I like I have to deal with the debts I made and the friends I lost.

ravensgait said:
Justyn everything you've posted in this thread is just conjecture on your part. YOU have not provided anything at all to substantiate one word of your claims here. As you know the BOI requires you to provide proof, not send faxes or to get the proof down the road. You made the claims so where is this proof to back them up???

Quote/ Al, enjoy your HOT snakes and in the future don't try to screw me over again, I'm making sure I watch your every possibly illegal step. I know my laws better then most, apperently better then you. /Quote

So you knew that taking peoples Money and not providing the service or product that you accepted that money for was Illegal . So you knowingly broke the law then.... Oh and we all make spelling errors ETC but if you look down at the bottom of the page you'll see a little Icon called spell check, give it a try will ya... Randy
 
Just my opinion. You should not be saying they broke lws untill you have proof. If you have proof then by all means post it and lets talk.

Just my opinion.

Saying they did and them doing is differnt. And if it comes out they did not break laws. It could come back on you for posting they did.
 
I wouldn't have said it if I wasn't sure they broke the laws on at least one thing. Al could post just as easily as I can. I just might not be so nice about blacking out address info, permit numbers, etc. He might not like that, I wouldn't. It leaves him open to psychical harassment and someone stealing a fair collection (his and Joe's).

Now where is that "Smuggling Al" (my new name for him, like all large and loveable teddy bears, I give them nicknames)? Come on big boy, speak up! Tell me I'm wrong. You know just as well as me that I'm right about the health certificate (I warned you about this before when you pulld your stunt on me) and that I may be right about the water cobras (pending positive identification, don't have pics of those yet, do you?). Why don't you post photos of the water cobras and show they are in fact the correct species as in your declaration, your health certificates, and your transit permits? It would be SO easy to prove me wrong Al and make an example out of me.

Gary O said:
Just my opinion. You should not be saying they broke lws untill you have proof. If you have proof then by all means post it and lets talk.

Just my opinion.

Saying they did and them doing is differnt. And if it comes out they did not break laws. It could come back on you for posting they did.
 
Again.

You first said that Al got nothing you were sure of it. You would not have posted that he did not get them unless you were sure of it.

Then you said whoops sorry I was wrong he did get them but this and this and this happened. I have friends and they sent me stuff saying he did this and that.

Now. If it comes out everything they did was legal you could be in for a lawsuit. That is why I said you should not jump the gun untill you have PROOF. If you are not going to post it that tells me you do not have it.

you can end everything by posting your "proof" but like you said it is not even the official docs.

Just giving you friendly advise.
 
No, I said it didn't look like Al got anything, it looks like he did. At that time with my sources it seems like he did not. Who knows, all I have confirmed is that they were sent. I have yet to hear if they were cleared. It truthfully doesn't matter, they are still illegal.

As for legalities, I am very familiar with them. If Al sues, I'll counter-sue. He already already stole info from me through illegal and unethical means. If I feel I have a strong case I likely sue him for that as it has caused me financial loss. To think he could has just put in an FOIA request and got the same info. Too soon to tell on that front, I'm still waiting for copies of hard evidence pending an inquiry into Al's telephone calls with the airlines and the statement they send me regarding it. I'm not a sue happy person, I hate the legal system, but it might be needed here.

Gary O said:
Again.

You first said that Al got nothing you were sure of it. You would not have posted that he did not get them unless you were sure of it.

Then you said whoops sorry I was wrong he did get them but this and this and this happened. I have friends and they sent me stuff saying he did this and that.

Now. If it comes out everything they did was legal you could be in for a lawsuit. That is why I said you should not jump the gun untill you have PROOF. If you are not going to post it that tells me you do not have it.

you can end everything by posting your "proof" but like you said it is not even the official docs.

Just giving you friendly advise.
 
Just a heads up. You are talking more then Al here too. You are making claims before you "know" anything. Legal 101............... Do not accuse unless the facts are true and you have proof.

You might know laws. But you have not gotten the facts yet except through "sources" Not the correct ones at that. I said this a few times today rumors hurt a lot of people.

Like said it looks like you are trying to take one situation to cover another. And if one situation turns up wrong you make up another one. Some of the things in this thread can come back to haunt you. Wait untill you say you have this "proof" I am not so sure you will get what you think it is.
 
Justyn,

You're a lying idiot and every time you post you prove it more. You should shut up and go away. I doubt anyone on this forum, and I mean anyone, believes anything that you post. I only read it because it's like a traffic accident or a fire. It's hard not to watch it happen no matter how much you want to turn away.
 
Oh Gary, I'm right. I said before I thought that MAYBE Al didn't have the shipment. The sources I talked to at the time didn't know it existed, and Al didn't have proof. Now I have proof it exist, I was wrong on my HUNCH. I have copies of the documents in hand, direct from the Congo. Wither it's cleared yet customs and USFWS (it should have been), I don't have those documents yet, but soon. Now it remains to be seen if Al gets charged for a Lacey act violation for breaking laws in the Congo, Europe, and in the USA, the animals taken away, etc. Hopefully the animals have not already been forwarded to Al, interstate transport would easily be another violation of the Lacey Act, especially now that they know the animals were acquired through improper means. USFWS will be looking into it, and they should. As importers we should make sure that all our animals are legal and so is the paperwork. Illegal paperwork and improper declarations will only hurt our hobby.

The best part about this is some lucky zoos will get some killer animals for display.

Gary O said:
Just a heads up. You are talking more then Al here too. You are making claims before you "know" anything. Legal 101............... Do not accuse unless the facts are true and you have proof.

You might know laws. But you have not gotten the facts yet except through "sources" Not the correct ones at that. I said this a few times today rumors hurt a lot of people.

Like said it looks like you are trying to take one situation to cover another. And if one situation turns up wrong you make up another one. Some of the things in this thread can come back to haunt you. Wait untill you say you have this "proof" I am not so sure you will get what you think it is.
 
You don't have to trust me Jim, I'm right!

Jim O said:
Justyn,

You're a lying idiot and every time you post you prove it more. You should shut up and go away. I doubt anyone on this forum, and I mean anyone, believes anything that you post. I only read it because it's like a traffic accident or a fire. It's hard not to watch it happen no matter how much you want to turn away.
 
Also Jim, answer this. Who has brought in more Congo shipments into the USA in the past say 5 years? Give you a hint, me. I know the laws, I've gone through the mess of the paperwork, and I know the animals. I know the exporters, heck, I even know the exporters families. I know the cargo managers, the vets in Europe, etc. It is a tight network over there. I put most of last year working on the Congo. I know the trade there better then anyone else in the USA right now. I guess we'll see what USFWS concludes and go with that, huh? Are you going to say they are wrong when they take Al's animals away?

Jim O said:
Justyn,

You're a lying idiot and every time you post you prove it more. You should shut up and go away. I doubt anyone on this forum, and I mean anyone, believes anything that you post. I only read it because it's like a traffic accident or a fire. It's hard not to watch it happen no matter how much you want to turn away.
 
Ok Justyn. Just thought I would put out a friendly warning. No worries though.
 
Gary thank you for your concern. Legal implications will always be a threat that is there. AL has already threatened me with them before. If he does, it would suck, but I need a trip to West Virginia anyways, and he's not that far off. I am sure he needs a trip to Texas too! I would even be willing to take him snake hunting.

I wish you luck with the Herp radio thing, it looks exciting. Maybe you can have "Smugglin Al" on? Ok, I just kid. H doesn't have the best radio voice. But really, it looks very like a goo idea, good luck with it.

Gary O said:
Ok Justyn. Just thought I would put out a friendly warning. No worries though.
 
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