Wilomn said:
Gary, if you re-read post #6 you will see that butterball al claims to have "all the permits I need."
If he meant to say something different he seems to be intelligent enough, just barely I grant you, to have done so. So, either he is boasting again, or he flat out lied again.
Ok Wes I know you are smart. So I do not need to say this more then this time. Read the whole thread. Al said the permits were not his but Joes.
Did Al have all permits needed to get the animals. YES Joe's. Al worked with Joe to get the animals in. Nothing more.
SO if you had a group of female False Water Cobras but no males at your place. Your friend had males that you could use that were breeders right now. If I called you and said hey Wes I have some 07 FWC you would say no I have what I need right now. They would not be YOURS but you would have them
Re-read all the correspondence through about post # 8 or 9 and you'll see where butterball as contradicted himself several times.
I also find it interesting that Joe won't come to his "partners" defense. Gary, you do it for mere friends. I do the same. Yet Joe Switaki leaves ol butterball roasting in his own juices, as it were.
I will say this once. As it has been posted. Joe and Al are not partners. They worked together to get animals.
I wonder if that's because al has lied and Joe is smart enough to know that if he comes here and defends those lies he'll be connected to them forever or if he finally figured out just what kind of guy butterball is and now wants nothing to do with him or his lying thieving ways.
I would not speak for Joe If I were you. It is as simple as Joe not wanting to post here. He has what he needs to bring in the animals. Enough said.
When it comes to your friends, you REALLY try hard to see only the best Gary, one of the good things about you. But when it is as obvious as al has made it that he is NOT a good guy, eventually you have to admit it.
I have never been lied to by Al. Al said the permits were not his in this very thread. What has he lied about? I know Al better then you do bro. It is fact. You know what you read. It is ike the media. They put out what they want you to see. You read only what you want to know.
He's a liar.
He has no problem doing business with justyn as long as al is benifitting from it, going so far as to say he will tell others that they had a good transaction, then backing out. Another lie.
Did Justyn want a thread here about it? How do you know Al never told anyone? This is just a wierd thing. I do not even know how to reply to this.
He let's justyn post ads for sale until butterball gets mad at justyn for something that has NOTHING to do with the ads justyn has placed and then al deletes the ads and bans justyn from the site.
I can not comment on that. Not my site. But I do find it funny Al gets points for Antagonism Towards Moderators but yet you name sling more then anyone. And yes you were one that gave the warning. If it was for profanity you should have used that warning. Becuase you are showing Antagonism Towards a Member. And that is just what you are blaming Al for............... Pot meet kettle.. But I still think you are a good guy. I suck I know. The only warning I see as legit was Dr. Owen's. He warned for profanity. You abused your powers here IMO. You are name calling or goating I like to call it. Then you turn around and say it is wrong of Al to do it. But that is allowed. So be it. But name calling is name calling IMO.
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He has no problem deleting my posts and threads when they show him in a poor light on TRR. If he did not do this himself, and I am still waiting notice as to who did as according to TRR I should have been, then I would be comfortable saying he asked someone else to do it for him.
He, when things got hot for him here, went running to TRR to get members there to come and back him up here, knowing full well that they would without reguard to the actual truth of the matter just because it was fauna and there is friction between small minded members of the two sites.
I will say one more time it was not Al. And if your posts would have been posted in an adult manner I think they may have stayed. All I will say about that at this time.And I will say he did not ask someone else to do it.
Also Fauna is here with the BOI. Going to TRR does not allow the freedom you like so much. The war room is dead. I will not allow the name calling and child like posts. Not calling you a child I still think you are cool.
I will fix the TRR thing On my time. And like said I will never publicly bash my team
All of this is not exactly making him look like a standup honest type of guy. Quite the opposite, in fact.
To tell you the truth..... I see one issue and I never seen anyone post dates. him being banned on venomous Reptiles. But the admins there said they were going to do it anyways. not sure about it. I am not the site owner.
Other then that. I see this. A person importing from a place Justyn is importing from. Justyn wanted to be the only one doing it. So he is looking for anything that can get it back to him being the only one.
Justyn has made some very very bad choices in the past. This is a way for him to find something to shadow it. Sometimes Wes it is better to act calmly. I have said many times you act sometimes before you think. It is a flaw but you are still a good guy. But you get your hands in so much around here. Honestly do you ever get tired of it. Al is a friend of mine. Do I defend my friends. Yep. But as you see I only stated facts I know. I do not place blame. I ask questions and I never get into the name calling bit. This is no longer grade school.
