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Alex Hue and TNS reptiles

THOSE SNAKES WERE NOT BINNED WITH THAT MANY THERE WERE 10 IN A CONTAINER WHICH I GAVE ALL THE INFO YESTERDAY. FOR CH BALLS THAT IS FINE. AND YES YOU'RE CORRECT THEY WILL GET EACH OTHER SICK BUT IF THERE IS A LOT THAT ARE SICK THEN YOUR DOOMED

MIKE
 
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A POSSIBLITY EVAN BUT NOT ALL WERE ADMINISTERED IT SO WHY ARE ALL THE REST DEAD AS WELL? THATS WHAT IM WONDERING IF I WAS A STAND UP GUY HUH. IF YOU AND ALEX WERE STAND UP GUYS YOU WOULDNT BE POSTING THAT I TOLD YOU IT WAS A VPI AXANTHIC WHEN THE PIC I SENT HIM HAS MY FULL AD ON IT SAYING IT IS JOLLIFF.
MIKE
 
WHY I CANT HAVE A GIRL I USED TO BE CLOSE TO PUT UP SOMETHING BECAUSE SHE DID IN FACT BUY THINGS FROM ME?

What is wrong with that? Nothing. you are right.

But when she posts link and says she was just surfing to view other animals in your collection....makes you kinda wonder. Why would she need to surf the internet when she is posting from your computer...she can just turn around and look at your animals.

Why did she have to say she recently spoke to you?
She could have just said I am sitting here on his lap pretending to be a customer posting from somewhere else.

EVAN THE ONLY THING YOU THINK YOU CAUGHT ME IN AS A LIE IS ABOUT THE MEDS.
There are others here who saw you post that you medicated them yourself.
Now did you or did you not post about the medication cocktail?

Go ahead and take pictures right now of the ones that died tonight.
 
Mike

What AD do you keep talking about ????????
Does your memory come and go.....you were the one who E-MAILED me wanting to do a trade dea.

I never answered any of your ads for an JOLLIFF axanthic nor did I ever see one of your ads for a Jolliff axanthic.

Heres the e-mail you originally sent me.........


Subj: Re: Message about: way overstocked - take advantage - Baby Ball Pythons
Date: 05/29/2003 9:24:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Alexhuereptiles
To: [email protected]



Hello and thanks for your interest,
Please provide me with your name and tel. number so I can decide if I wish to proceed with some sort of deal.

Thanks,
Alex

Alex Hue Reptiles
616-8351308

In a message dated 05/29/2003 9:21:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:


hey if you have a huge # of animals i might be interested in trading either an adult albino male or an adult axanthic male for a big lot of them, ill give you a good price on balls like that though. I want 3k for the albino and 5k for the axanthic so i would want the same amount in baby balls but that is a good deal for adults of anything. Let me know if you might be interested-thanks




Alex Hue Reptiles
616-8351308
 
For those with serious reading comprehension skills deficiencies, Mike, I have stated very clearly that Alex told me that you changed the strain. Do I believe him over you? Oh yeah. So you can drop this bs now. How about the "sold for $10,000"? Also, how do you know which ones were treated and which were not if they were put in tubs to soak? Also tell us again exactly how many are dead out of the 875 he gave you? And by the way, do you have a calculator handy? How much is $5 x 875? Does that add up to $3500? $10000?

None of this matters. Why did you lie about treating them and how they were being threated if it was not an issue?
 
To the best of my knowledge you stated in the lost thread "all were given a cocktail of flagyl and panacur"

I READ IT WITH MY OWN EYES, dont lie to me, I was one of the first to reply to this post because it pisses me off that someones screwup took all those snakes.

PEOPLE NEED TO BUY CAPTIVE ANIMALS FROM HONEST PEOPLE, THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT.

I too was told the animals were a full time venture, now its twice a day before and after work.
 
Well Mike, it really seems that you have done yourself in. My guess is you soaked all of the balls you got in your "COCKTAIL" the night you got them or the morning after. Then they started to die and you looked at the dollar signs involved in YOUR mistake and decided to blame it on the snakes.

Fact one- NO ONE else who has bought snakes off Alex has had this problem

Fact two- you have BEEN CAUGHT in several LIES- not a good thing

Fact three- you keep avoiding answering the questions so many have put to you about what EXACTLY what was done by who and when exactly it was done- this lends credence to the fact that you have not been truthful, see fact two for outcome

Time to post proof positive that the snakes, all 800 of them were bad from the get go or just take your lumps and learn from what happened. As has been said time and again on this site, we all make mistakes but, it's what we do with those mistakes that makes us good or bad. You have some serious thinking to do. To me it seems that the cause for your problem lies entirely with you. You have not posted anything from your vet even though you've had two full days to get the info I asked for from him. You have changed your story about what happened several times. mike, you are not doing yourself any good by continuing this line of reasoning.

Get some necropsies, tell us what really happened, be HONEST. If you give the real facts then you may come out of this with a little more respect than you have right now. At least from my point of view you seem to be prevaricating a little too much. What is tha line? I think it goes" He doth protest too much" and I think that is the case here.

Wes Pollock
 
ALEX WHEN I SENT YOU A PIC OF THE AXANTHIC YOU GOT A PIC WITH AN AD CORRECT? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DRIVE 11 HOURS FOR A SNAKE YOU NEVER HAVE SEEN? ON THAT AD IT SAID JOLLIFF, NOT VPI. WOULD ANYONE DRIVE THAT FAR WITHOUT SEEING A PICTURE OF THE SNAKE? AND WHEN YOU GOT HERE IF YOU FOUND OUT IF IT WAS A JOLLIFF AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PRE-SOLD THEN WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY IT.

MIKE
 
Anyone else getting the idea that good ole mikey here is avoiding everything everyone else is saying and trying to get everyone to pay attention to the damn axanthic?

Mike it seems you are avoiding or you accidentally on purpose missed the questions.

Two people have said they saw you post that ALL were medicated in your cocktail.

Did you or did you not medicate them in your METRONIDAZOLE cocktail?
 
HAHA YOU PEOPLE ARE A JOKE. ILL HAVE A FULL ACCOUNT OF WHAT THESE SNAKES WERE GIVEN. NO PEOPLE IM NOT TELLING YOU LIES HERE I SAID "I THINK THEY WERE PUT IN A COCKTAIL OF FALGYL AND PANACUR BUT ILL FIND OUT" SO WHY DONT ONE OF YOU GUYS FIND THE LOST THREAD AND BUST IT OUT. MY VET WAS BUSY TODAY AND SO WAS I SO I GOT THE INFO FROM A GIRL THAT WORKS THERE AS FAR AS WAHT MEDICATIONS WERE GIVEN BUT NOT EXACT DOSES. AND THE SNAKES TAHT WERE TREATED WERE SEPERATED DO YOU THINK I WOULD PUT THEM ALLTOGETHER AGAIN?

MIKE
 
Mike now very clearly admitted that he has lied when he stated that I caught him in a lie about the meds. Why would anyone with a legitimate gripe lie like that about that particular subject. Just my opinion, but I think after he realized he screwed up and was killing them or talked to somebody who told him he screwed up and they started to die, he went after some bonus animals.

This is what telling lies on this board does to you Mike. You had undivided support for your cause until you started to lie. Now, you may as well just call and talk to Alex. Nobody else can fix anything between you and you lost your credibility here.

If I am not mistaken there is also threads/posts on this forum where you and one of your best friends posted as customers of each others who did not know each other well but were super happy with the animals you bought. Any thoughts?
 
I don't know if you're counting me in that first two who saw it Ritchie, but I think I was the first to ask him about it. So at least three of us saw it. What't the scoop mike? Just the facts man, just the facts.

Wes Pollock
 
YOU KNOW SOMETHING ILL POST THE RESULTS OF THIS WHEN I GET A CHANCE SITTING ON HERE WITH YOU GUYS IS A WASTE OF MY TIME. IM NOT GETTING ANYTING BACK FROM HUE, AND YOU GUYS PICK EVERYTHING APART AND OUT OF CONTEXT SO BAD ITS INCREDIBLE. ILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS WITH THE VET TOMORROW HE'LL BE OPEN THEN IL GIVE YOU SOME ANSWERS.

MIKE
 
Mike how quickly you have gotten of the topic of the dead snakes,,, all you want to talk about is the VPI or Jolliff ball python,,

a few questions i and and a lot of other people would like answers to:

did you or did you not take the balls to the vet,,?
and how many..?
do you have a reciept from your vet you can post,,? it usually shows what meds they used,,, most bills are broken down my office visit, and meds, bandages etc,,, so that would helpa lot of you did take them to the vet,,

did you or did you not soak them in a "cocktail of flagyl"?
or what?
I don't know anyone who would just mix up a bunch of dewormers and soak animals in it, and hope for the best,,,
what really happened..? and how many animals were actually soaked if any..?

the truth needs to come out,, you are digging a pretty deep hole by lying,,, ( or excuse me not telling the whole or complete truth)

so what really happened,,?
 
HAHA YOU PEOPLE ARE A JOKE
Correction. So far from what I have seen the only joke here is you.


You post that you put them in a cocktail
Then you post that your vet treated them individually.
Now you post your vet put them in a cocktail.

You post that the rotting pictures where from today. Then you realized your mistake and came back to say that some where from yesterday. Those rotting corpses could not be from yesterday. Your temperatures are between 60 - 70 degrees. Too cool to get rotted like that.

My suggestion is for you to check your temperatures.

I have a small army of ball pythons from alex. They are healthy suckers.

And if alex is selling junk balls. I wonder what happened to all the others he has sold too. Because latley all the threads where people actually got anmals have been good.

Now you say your friends snakes are dying too. Yes it could be a bad batch. Or it could be something else. Your story is kinda Holy (meaning full of holes NOT sacred).

Can you maybe get your "friend" to post? From his own computer? And take his own pics?
 
Hey Mike, that is another lie. In order to dispense or use any prescription medication, a licensed veteranarian must not only indicate the exact medication and dosage on their charts for their records but they also must specify everything on a receipt provided to you as well. These are federal guidelines that no vet would disregard as they could permanently lose their license to practice for failure to keep records on dispensing meds.

Back to lie #1, you said in your initial post very clearly that YOU soaked the snakes in a COCKTAIL of FLAGYL, PANACUR AND SOMETHING ELSE. Your words, not mine.
 
"AND WHEN YOU GOT HERE IF YOU FOUND OUT IF IT WAS A JOLLIFF AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PRE-SOLD THEN WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY IT.

MIKE"

Thats because they didnt buy it ! Especially not after I had to tell them that I thought it was a VPI all along and then come to find out it was a JOLLIFF.
 
Damn, I have to go to work late tonight so I have to leave this interesting discussion. However, mikey, you once again LIED. In a post on page nine you stated that you THINK the snakes were put in a cocktail of meds. Yet in your initial post you stated that you PUT them in a cocktail of meds. You have not TOTALLY lost any residual respect I was holding out for you. You reap what you sow. Seems that you are harvesting a bad crop. I'm done, you're scum and one more guy on my don't buy from list.

Wes Pollock
 
EVAN,
HONESTLY YOU ARE PROBABLY PLAYING WITH FIRE THERE BUDDY. FIRST OF ALL MY BEST BUDDY WHICH IS WHO? ARE WE BRINGING IN OTHER PEOPLE INTO THIS FOR WHAT REASON, BECAUSE I MAYBE BOUGHT THINGS OFF OF PEOPLE AND POSTED THAT THEY HAD GOOD ANIMALS? HAHA THIS IS A JOKE

MIKE
 
I'M SCUM HUH WES, HAHA. IM GOING TO BED IVE HAD ENOUGH OF ALL YOU CLOWNS. HEY GUYS IM GONNA SEND YOU ALL A DEAD BALL PYTHON FOR CHRISTMAS NEXT YEAR. VIA ALEX HUE REPTILES. IF I THOUGHT FOR ONE SECOND THAT ANY OF YOU FOOLS HAD CAUGHT ME IN A LIE I WOULD OF PACKED IT IN BEFORE I STARTED. YOU'RE ARGUEMENTS ARE WEAK AT BEST.

MIKE
 
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