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Aline Reptiles - Good Guy

mammals with kalam

has anyone ever purchesed mammals from kalam or aline please post your stories and experiances i am planning on aquaring a anteater from him soon or tyra thanks chris
 
lane

Ok I know I said I would not be able to humor you with responses anymore...but it was brought up publicly so I'll add to the humor alittle.

Lane, You stated you never said One eye was on a special diet because of his worms? sorry hun...but I kept that ever so nice(sarcastic) e-mail you sent me after he died. quote from your e-mail "He was given feeding
instructions on One Eye, and I might add that One Eye was never given anoles while he was in my care! He had subcutanious filarial
worms in him ONE good eye that could not be removed. The reason why One Eye was aways fed grasshoppers, field insects, and
superworms, was because he had a ongoing parasite load"

You also said "Now One Eye is dead, and there is a profound justice in his death! Now none of you greedy people
will get his offspring, because he was not bred. But all is not lost, because his beautiful babies just started hatching last week!!!!!!!"

Funny if he was never bred....how could his babie be hatching?

Oh and about you suing me for slander! LOL just friendly advice...you need to find a new lawyer...to sue someone for slander the comments made publicly have to be FALSE! your lawyer that you've been giving all this information to should have informed you of this, he should also have informed you that a business cant sue for slander...its a buyers right to talk if they are not happy. (oh no! does someone know what they are talking about here?)

Its late...and I'm now bord with this thread that like doug called it "8th grade"
 
ohhhh I forgot one other funny part...

Would anyone like to comment on the genetic material Lane told me she collected of One eye, that she will test any offspring I claim are from One eye.

Lane, if you want to spend thousands of dollars testing all my offspring feel free...but you'll have to buy them from someone else...I will never let my chameleons in the care of someone who knew one eye had parasites, did not inform the new seller, did not try to get rid of them while he was in your care, and is the person in directly responsible for such a beautiful animals death.
 
I don’t care; believe whatever you would like. I was out hiking most of the day yesterday and watched the Laker game at night and went to bed after because I was tired, do you want a picture of my dusty hiking boots as “evidence”? The last time I checked this thread was on Saturday night and my has it digressed to an 8th grade level as Doug put it. It isn’t only you Lane, or Dennis Scott but Sheriff Dennis most of all. I admit that I do know him and did mention to him quite a while ago the situation regarding Scott’s jack move regarding the roaches. As for Madson knowing Doug, that isn’t true. I know Doug and did mention your laughable special diet to Madson for a good snicker since he had figured, for himself by the way, your involvement in those dying chameleons. I did not know he would take all that, however, and shove it down your throat. I knew the whole time where those animals came from and could have set him straight since he initially thought Shelly was the only one to sell those animals. In fact I could have actually leaked that info to many people but didn’t. I actually gave you an opening to discredit him by not setting him straight but unfortunately every time you and Shelly would talk on the subject you would just prove his points more. Do I think his posts to Toni regarding her age were tasteless—absolutely!

As for Madson being the Sheriff, I guess it is true from what he says. As for me being Madson, that isn’t true but I don’t care what you think. I had a feeling quite a while ago as he used a phrase with me on the phone that he used in a post but I was never certain. In fact Lane, I remember telling you of my hunch that I might know who was behind “The Sheriff” posts during one of my last phone calls with you. At any rate I don’t care what you, Shelly, Madson, Scott and his partner think and I am sure I am not the only one that feels this way. Not only do I not care about any of you but what do I have to fear that would make me develop not only 1 supposed alter ego but 2? You admit Lane you are getting out of Chameleons as well as Shelly. John Lucas is a kid that lives with his parents and Scott is a nobody, scary!! To back up this point, these guys are in the feeder business and barely breaking into offspring other than what you can supposedly produce for them. There is not anything to fear from any of them or you. In fact, Scott contacted me a while ago and asked if I could send him pics of Cyclops sleeping or dark. If I disliked him enough to pen the catch name “Project-jerkoff-is” why would I respond and send pics of Cyclops so that he could compare them to the offspring he has from him? Doesn’t that seem counter productive if I disliked him so?

In fact I don’t really even blame Scott in all this because I know you are the one pulling his strings. You thought for the longest time I mean't Ivan when I said “I think I might know who that Sheriff guy is” but now you are changing your tune and flailing around in a vain attempt to show that you aren’t the worst out there. The bottom line is I have stayed away from this thread on purpose although you and a few people know very well I have rather strong feelings about you. I could have easily jumped on the Lane bashing bandwagon with my experiences and emails—essentially hard proof—but I knew this whole thing was going to lower everyone involved so I didn’t want to soil myself with it. Actually, believe it or not, it was one of your posts to Ivan where you had said basically to keep comments on this thread to Aline Reptiles and if anyone wanted to talk about your business to make a Legendcham thread that convinced me to keep my facts and opinions to myself. I still will be the big guy and not post my take on you because I don’t care. Your guys or whoever’s guys can say what they want about me it won’t change the fact that when I go to sell animals they’ll sell. You know why? Because nobody cares about “The Chameleon Politics”, I could be Osama bin Hidin’ and people would still buy from me and that is because I provide very good, healthy, exclusive animals although occasionally and that is all people care about—period.

Matt Jillson
 
Jovana you take the cake!

I think that I have heard it all now. I can't resist this one.
You and Doug have to be the most irresponsible people on the
face of this earth. As far as One Eye being bred by you, NO
WAY. Let me educate you, little girl, DNA is taken and recorded
daily in the dog world. A AKC champion sire, must have his
DNA registered, in order to bred him more than once. It is very
inexpensive. As for One Eye, you should have noticed a fair
amount of bone and tissue missing from his jaw. That is the area
that had the most damage. My vet and myself worked on
it for a couple of months, tissue samples were taken and cultured
to make sure that he did not have a infection starting. I will post
bits and pieces of you and Dougs e-mails. I would not try to pass
off any hybrids that you may have bred as One Eyes. As far as
the comment about him being bred, let me clarify it for you, there
is NO WAY IN HELL that he would or could have bred in the condition that he was in when you got him. Do you really think
people are going to take you seriously. All they have to do is read
all of your posts on Kingsnake. I will have to give Ivan credit where credit is due, he does know how to take care of chameleons. He really lowered the bar, when he hooked up with the two of you. Did you graduate from high school???? You need
to learn how to spell big words like subcutaneous filarial nematodes. Did you get the book about parasites? Did you know
that at least half of imported w/c panthers have these nematodes? Did you know that there is no cure for them, except
surgical removal/As far as Jovana's supposed clutch from one eye?
Did you know that more will show up? You and
Doug have no business with w/c's in the first place. Both of you
think that grasshoppers are "special diets". Do you think that
these guys eat crickets, superworms, and silkworms in Madagascar? Enough said, I will leave you and your little friend
alone now (except to post your stupid e-mails).

Lane Gergely
 
Here it is!

As far as Jovana's supposed clutch from one eye? This is news to me. To the best of my knowledge he was in too bad of shape by the time she had gotten a female (to which I had no idea was her plan in the first place) to breed him. In the shape he was in I can't imagine him having any desire to do so. As far as her teaching ME how to care for chameleons? Well if it's one thing I've learned in the relatively short time I've been in this hobby, it's that you can't trust what anyone tells you, it's very cut throat, and that's sad.

Doug.


Fortunatly I will have a clutch from one eye next year. I had wanted one eye the day I saw him on the kingsnake forums, I was thrilled when shelly offered him to me. Then Doug tells me that you will not sell him to me because I was going to buy a chameleon from Ivan. Thats mature...I am not 21 for one thing and I take better care of my chameleons that almost anyone, my feeders were taken better care of than most people take care of their chameleons as well. I was not told one eye had a heavy parisite load or he was on a special feeding diet. Doug told me that he did not like crickets, thats it. He also told me that he would buy him from me under the condition that I did not tell anyone he was one eye. So in that matter I could not e-mail you to tell you I had one eye. I also never feed more than one anole a week to my chameleons, although one eye had 2 in his first week to try to fatten him up a bit. I knew about his worm in his eye, shelly told me about that when she was still going to sell him to me, she also said it was dead and would not cause any harm to him. no one ever mentioned that he had a heavy parasite load or that he had about 8 sub Q worms on his sides either. For the record I did bury him, like I said he was very special to me. I also taught doug how to take care of his chameleons, even though he does not do everything I tell him to, he does not think it nessacary. I told dennis to take one eyes name off the post because I did not want people to know it was you guys that sold him to me, I was not wanting to participate in any sort of bashing of anyone. Have a good day
Jovana
 
It is like seeing someone rapidly fall apart....

Wow Lane. I was really just kidding when I said you were cracky crazy but after seeing these last two posts I had no idea I was right all along. You really need to take a long look at yourself in the mirror and soon because you are going up like the Hindenburg right now.

Dennis Madson
 
Let's talk about irresponsible shall we Lane?

As a merchant you should be fully aware of your purchaser's situation. When someone comes in to buy a coral or fish from me I make sure I ask THEM lots of questions concerning their aquarium situation. ESPECIALLY if it is something a little more CHALLENGING to keep. And if they tell me they don't really have the time to take care of a reef tank, I CERTAINLY don't sell them a setup just to make a sale. I redirect them to something a little more appropriate for their situation like a fish only setup, or a fresh water setup. But the point is that I ASK. Shelly knew ahead of time that I'd only kept a veiled and one other panther. I've done lots of book reading on captive care of several species of chameleons. But they obviously don't tell you about the little tricks necessary to get some of the difficult specimens to do well. That's something that's passed down from people with success. I would have thought she might have passed that on to you, but if not you should have asked. I NEVER have had a wildcaught before. As I stated in one of the emails I believe you posted. But he was also a long term captive (1 year). You did tell me he was pretty much left for dead at the wholesalers. You did tell me you fought tooth and nail to keep him alive. You DID tell me (at the point I bought him) that he was healthy, just rough. If you worked so closely with this vet on him for so long to get him healthy, how is it that the vet missed an intestinal worm infestation of that magnitude? Didn't you run semi annual fecal exams? Hell even I do that. Oh, and by the way, can we all see PROOF of the DNA work? You do have the vet bill for that right? Not that I doubt you on that, just like to see that it was done. You like to throw around the word responsibility as it pertains to buyers, but good merchants need to have the responsibility to do right by their customers prior to a sale as well. There's a little word you might want to look up Lane, displacement.
 
Hmm...I dont seem to recall stating on this forum I had a clutch from One eye, but thanks for letting everyone know with that e-mail post. All I said was a quote from YOUR e-mail that he was never bred so...how could you have a clutch from him? Maybe I should warn your future buyers of this e-mail what do you think?

(by they way, his first week with me he was doing great and bobbed at any female that came within 10 feet of him)

I'll post the whole emails later since some people are intersted in them. now my lunch break is over and I must go back to work.
 
HAHAHA did you finish grade school lane? obviously you dont know how to read, or comprehend what your reading. you ask did I graduate high school? hmm lemme think about this one...I stated I'm breeding chameleons to pay off my college debts....hmmmm....can we say "RETARD! read before trying to bash someone!" you'll look at least half way sane.

You still have not commented on your wonderful lawyer whos not telling you about slander suits or your comment on One eye never being bred.

Oh heres lanes whole e-mail on her "special" diet she claims I've made up....but she states in her VERY FIRST e-mail to me, along with One Eye NEVER being bred, and some other fun stuff. Really I've taken up enough time with this thread so if anyone thinks I need to add anything in the future please e-mail me, I wont be keeping up on it anymore.

the e-mails*************
Jovana or maybe it is Ms. Perry or whatever you call yourself,

I now understand that you ended up with my One Eye, even though you are e-mailing several people to try and conceal the fact
that you got him from Doug. Speaking of Doug, he went to GREAT lengths and many lies, to make sure that he could get One Eye.
Although I only briefly talked to him over the phone, his opnion of you was should I say less than flattering! He told both myself
and my partner Shelly, that you were a immature 21 year old girl, that he had worked with. He said that you had purchased a
a few corals from him, but that he had never dated you. He went on and on about how crazy you were for calling him a ex, and
how he was 32 years old, and you were way to young and dumb for him. He even told my partner Shelly that he was engaged
to someone else. But YOU were hell bent on getting and chameleon that I would have never sold to you, because One Eye was
a "special needs" chameleon. As soon as Doug got him, and complained that he was rough looking, I offered to immediately buy
him back. I HAVE ALL of the e-mails to prove it. He had convinced my partner Shelly that he knew what he was doing, because he
was this big marine biologist. He sent me a e-mail stating that he wanted to keep One Eye, so I let it be. He was given feeding
instructions on One Eye, and I might add that One Eye was never given anoles while he was in my care! He had subcutanious filarial
worms in him ONE good eye that could not be removed. The reason why One Eye was aways fed grasshoppers, field insects, and
superworms, was because he had a ongoing parasite load. Doug knew the whole story behind One Eye, he was left for dead at the
importers after being bitten across the head. Part of his jaw was gone, but I am sure that you saw that. I was extremely busy last
month, but recieved a e-mail on the 15th from Doug stating that One Eye and Alkabides were eating like horses. I did not catch the
fact that he was feeding both of them anoles everyother day! That is way too much! I had been very specific to tell Doug that Alkabides
was to get 2 anoles at the most a week. I believe in feeding anoles, but under the right circumstances. One Eye was NOT a chameleon
that should have been fed anoles! Now One Eye is dead, and there is a profound justice in his death! Now none of you greedy people
will get his offspring, because he was not bred. But all is not lost, because his beautiful babies just started hatching last week!!!!!!!
Only two people will ever have any of his offspring, and guess what, you are not one of those two! Both you, Doug, and your mentor,
will NEVER get the chance to see what he produced while he was alive. If you had really, really cared about One Eye like you are
telling everyone, then you would have called or e-mailed me when you got him. My love for him and the other chameleons, outweigh
any dislike I have for you people out there in Disney World. But no, you had to keep it a secret so I would not find out! But now the
everyone knows, and they know how you and Doug lied, so that you could get what you want. The justice is that One Eye is dead and
did not have to live in the care of people who, will, lie, steal, cheat to get what they want. He was a living breathing masterpiece, but
you did not care. Did you just throw him away after Ivan put him to sleep, or did you do the right thing and bury him? My guess is
that you simply had Ivan dispose of him. So quit trying to convince everyone that you had the chameleons best interest at heart,
because they know the truth! I am mature enough to admit that I made a very grave mistake, when I sold him to Doug, and not
to Dennis Scott, who wanted him, but was a day late. Dennis contacted me right after I had promised him to Doug. I should have
never sold him to someone that I did not know, and I did not take the time to properly screen Doug. As you know I sold off all of
my collection. So I am just as responsible for his death as anyone, but at least I am not lying about it. Doug still had not informed me
of him death, I found out through another breeder. Thank God, that he only got three chameleons from my collection. The others have
done quite well. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK ANTONE TO REMOVE ONE EYE"S NAME FROM ANY PICTURES!
You and Doug have caused quite a uproar in the chameleon community, by refusing to take responsibility for you actions. I made
a grave mistake, by selling him to my partners customer! But his babies will live on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,
Lane Gergely
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Just alittle more fun for all psycho babble from our friendly multiple personality so called breeder. wow ya know...we should have started a new thread...poor ailine reptiles...we hi-jacked his good guy thread.
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I now have enough e-mails, plus the posts on the forum to prove that you, Doug and other parties are making a attempt
to slander myself and my partner. I have already pulled ALL of the posts from the Kingsnake forum reguarding the subject
of the now deceased chameleon, plus posts from the Kingsnake Gallery, your e-mails to other breeders including a e-mail
stating that you bred the dying chameleon and hope to have eggs soon, copies of Doug Perry's credit card payment for my
three chams along with all e-mails from Doug, plus my e-mails to Doug. I took all of the paperwork to my attorney early
this afternoon. Any future posts reguarding the "seller", without your response to the facts will result in a civil slander suit
filed against City in the Sea and both you and Doug personally. Also, I have genetic material from One Eye, and now his
offspring and I am prepared make you prove that One Eye sired any clutches that you, or any of your agents might have for
future sale. I seriously doubt from the picture that you took of him, that he would have been able to breed or sire a healthy
clutch of eggs. I have obtained genetic material on ALL of my collection, as to protect my customers and public from fraud,
which is a federal felony offense. I am attempting to solve this matter in a civil way, on the advise of my attorney. If this nonsense
does not stop, then not only will I employ the services of my attorney, but I will post this matter on the BOI. I will post most,
but not all of the above mentioned items to prove my claims. This notice will be forwarded to Doug Perry, along with other
parties that have future interests in One Eye's clutch that is now hatching. My attorney will also recieve a copy of this e-mail as
well.
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Re: Close, but no cigar...

Sometimes I wonder why I read the BOI. I'm not looking to buy any reptiles right now, and God knows I'm not going to remember everything I read here... if I do see an ad I like, I'll be searching anyway. Then I read this gem:

ddmadson said:
All your previous posts, here and on KS, shows you to basically have just barely a HS degree education level. You can’t punctuate, capitalize or form complete sentences let alone be smart enough to go to the “Internet task for bringing down The Sheriff”.

Ouch! Then he provides us with an example of exactly how to write correctly in the very next sentence:

ddmadson said:
Soemthing potential customer should consider as how can this guy raise roaches but not form a complete sentence.

Needless to say, I remembered then why I read the BOI... sometimes it makes you laugh so hard that a crappy workday becomes barely tolerable. :)

dd, just for your benefit:

Correction posted by Mister Internet
(That is) something (a) potential customer should consider; how can this guy raise roaches but not form a complete sentence?
 
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