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jsrocket said:
The only condescending A holes I see here have no idea who (what?) they are..
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So you're basically calling slackass, or me or pretty much every one who replied, a condescending A hole, before you even knew what you were talking about? Maybe you should practice what you preach ie.
Just because you can type, dosen't mean that you should
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jsrocket said:
While my impression is that the guy has a tenous grip on reality, and maybe a bit of a braggart, I don't really see any evidence that he did anything seriously wrong..
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I see slackass corrected you already as to this ASSumption.
jsrocket said:
Any one of you who has transported reptiles across state lines has probably broken some stupid law at one time or another..
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Maybe, maybe not. I know I have not, but I can't speak for everyone. It still doesn't change the fact that it wasn't just "some stupid" law. The reason he was in violation of transporting the animals through AZ to begin with was because he had them in violation of CA laws (where he resided). Many violations, both in numbers kept and the types kept. As far as gleeful to kick a person while he was down, give me a break. He brought everything on himself. This wasn't some "innocent" amateur reptile keeper who had an iguana and "ignorantly" broke some law. He was a notorious, or infamous herp keeper who blatently and knowingly broke any number of laws, not just relating to herps either. The fact that the moron was stupid enough to continue his blatant disregard for the laws (and giving herp keepers in general a bad name) is just more of the same for him.
 
If you think I am going to rise to that lame bait, you better either think again, or get a bigger worm.

As far as who the condescending A holes are, I think that is becoming self evident.
 
Breeder, I do agree with you on one point. If he was in possession of desert tortises (that fact is still in question), he was wrong. The gators, well, we all know that illegally kept gators are a fairly common thing amongst reptile enthusiasts. Just because some reporter who dosen't know anything about reptiles writes a story based on what the police told him, dosen't mean that it is factually correct. Anyhow, the gator laws exist to prevent people from releasing them in areas where they might thrive and damage the ecosystem or become a nuisance to humans, not to protect the animals.

As far as him killing someone, waving a gun in someone's face and making death threats, all that may or may not be exactly true.

But I think that all the hi fives while dancing on his casket were completely unnessesary.
 
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But I think that all the hi fives while dancing on his casket were completely unnessesary.
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That's because YOU, poundpuppy, as you have so ABUNDANTLY proven in the VERY recent past, are an ABSOLUTE instigator, not much on contributions of substance, but good at stirring the pot.

My appologies Ken. Got carried away there.
 
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I'm only going to say this once, and it's directed at all parties- not just one or two people. I've been real lax about giving out warning points and suspensions the past couple months, but it seems that's going to have to change if folks can't exercise some self-control.

This is not HELL, and I'm getting pretty damn sick of the back and forth ad hominem and sniping. Either you guys stop it now, or I'll stop it for you. We're all adults here, so let's start acting like it, m'kay?
 
Wes, sorry you feel that I am a "pot stirrer". I am simply expressing my views. If that "stirs your pot", then that's your problem.

I think a lot more people would participate in the forums at this site if they didn't have to worry about someone ripping them a new one over nothing. Often times your point is perfectly valid, but they way you address others is often (IMO) over-the-top rude.

Think about it. Do you really believe that nastiness from the "top dogs" does anything to better the community?

Since nobody else has stepped up to tell you this, I decided to do it.
 
You have decided I am a top dog, I have never said so myself.

Do not blame me for your misperseptions.

Who is the KNOWN liar here?

Who was so cowardly that he had to use FAKE names to make a point?

That would be you.
 
jsrocket said:
Breeder, I do agree with you on one point. If he was in possession of desert tortises (that fact is still in question), he was wrong. The gators, well, we all know that illegally kept gators are a fairly common thing amongst reptile enthusiasts. Just because some reporter who dosen't know anything about reptiles writes a story based on what the police told him, dosen't mean that it is factually correct. Anyhow, the gator laws exist to prevent people from releasing them in areas where they might thrive and damage the ecosystem or become a nuisance to humans, not to protect the animals.

As far as him killing someone, waving a gun in someone's face and making death threats, all that may or may not be exactly true.

But I think that all the hi fives while dancing on his casket were completely unnessesary.
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Congratulations. That is the STUPIDEST thing I have ever read. !!! Shall I send you a plaque (or is it plack, WS?) ???? I am sure we could all donate something to make a nice toilet seat to immortalize your words on...


You clearly have a limited grasp of reality, of the legal system, and why in fact, it is in place. Grow up, watch Law and Order, take classes...do whatever you have to do...but for the love of a monkey's uncle, please do something...

greg
 
You really should read all 128 pages. If you can really stomach all 128 pages, (like I have) you'll probably dance a jig or two yourself... There's really nothing you can say in judgement of anyone when you admittedly lack a basic understanding of the entire situation. Is it generally wrong to take delight in another's downfall? Yeah, that could be considered rude, but there are exceptions. Is it not gratifying to you at all when the bad guy "gets it in the end" of every movie you've ever seen? I don't see the difference. Read all 128 pages and you'll see the light.
 
Capeetann: You may be right. Thank you for presenting a polite, logical argument.

C thruyu77: You seem to be long on insults, but short on substance
 
PS for c thru u77: if insults are your thing, you should check out Don Rickles. He's a professional.
 
jsrocket said:
PS for c thru u77: if insults are your thing, you should check out Don Rickles. He's a professional.
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You must be mistaken. cthulhu77 wouldn't be insulting or make personal slams. Doing such things is rather silly and counter-productive and would make him a hypocrite. :raspberry

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I guess that making personal "slams" to me is rather silly and counter-productive.
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Nice riposte, Dave...LOL

Rocket, what you typed was ridiculous...the guy deserved everything he received...and what 128 pages? Who started the dang thread? I judge off of the factual reports, not the bias shown here...and have waded through all of this goop.

The previous post was not in any way meant to be comedically insulting...I truly believe it to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read.

greg
 
Well, it's very possible that he did deserve what he got. Maybe I was wrong. That has been known to happen. But this thread has become about getting personal with people who question something. Some genuine enlightenment could have occurred here; people sharing different views; arguments for, and against a point. Maybe I (or you) could learn something new and useful. But it rapidly downgraded into a "screw you" fest. Maybe you are satisfied that you have enough knowledge, and don't need any more. I believe that a healthy discourse can enlighten. If everyone just blindly agrees with everything, all the time, based on who they like personally, the actual facts tend to become lost.

"Just the facts, M'aam" - Joe Friday
 
JSR, I agree with that post completely...but your other one went down a path of wanting to "turn a blind eye" to legal issues....which was why I blew my lid. I am sure that you are correct about not just jumping on a bandwagon and bashing someone for nothing...we agree so much, I had actually started a thread regarding it last week !

greg
 
jsrocket said:
Well, it's very possible that he did deserve what he got. Maybe I was wrong. "Just the facts, M'aam" - Joe Friday
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You know poundpuppy, er rocketboy, YOU need to do YOUR own research BEFORE you start yapping.

brain/damon/josh/hannibal lector, all user names that the scumbag you are referring to used, and isn't it interesting that HE, like YOU, was too cowardly to use his real name, would make the world a better place if he checked himself out of it.

YOU obviously do NOT know his history. YOU have obviously got a hardon for anyone that goes with the flow here, regaurdless of the correctness of that flow, which in THIS case is absolute.

It's guys like you, going off halfcocked, taking up for the TOTAL scumbags of this industry, protecting the people that are forcing laws of restrictive and prohibitive nature to be forced on all of us, that make ALL the rest of us fight an uphill battle to keep and breed and enjoy OUR reptiles.

PLEASE do some research BEFORE you champion your next scumbag. It seems that somewhere, deepdown and not often used, is a decent mind. Fill in the chip on your shoulder and try to say something intelligent for a change.
 
wilomn said:
You know poundpuppy, er rocketboy, YOU need to do YOUR own research BEFORE you start yapping.

brain/damon/josh/hannibal lector, all user names that the scumbag you are referring to used, and isn't it interesting that HE, like YOU, was too cowardly to use his real name, would make the world a better place if he checked himself out of it.

YOU obviously do NOT know his history. YOU have obviously got a hardon for anyone that goes with the flow here, regaurdless of the correctness of that flow, which in THIS case is absolute.

It's guys like you, going off halfcocked, taking up for the TOTAL scumbags of this industry, protecting the people that are forcing laws of restrictive and prohibitive nature to be forced on all of us, that make ALL the rest of us fight an uphill battle to keep and breed and enjoy OUR reptiles.

PLEASE do some research BEFORE you champion your next scumbag. It seems that somewhere, deepdown and not often used, is a decent mind. Fill in the chip on your shoulder and try to say something intelligent for a change.
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In other words, open eyes before mouth.
 
Wes, I admitted it was a mistake to post here under a pseudonym. For those of you who don't know what he's talking about, you can read the thread here:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68115

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"It's guys like you, going off halfcocked, taking up for the TOTAL scumbags of this industry, protecting the people that are forcing laws of restrictive and prohibitive nature to be forced on all of us, that make ALL the rest of us fight an uphill battle to keep and breed and enjoy OUR reptiles."

Now, I have a question for you. I would appreciate it if you could leave out the insults, and just deliver facts.

What have you done lately to improve the image and credibility of all of us who enjoy and breed our reptiles?
 
wilomn said:
"It's guys like you, going off halfcocked, taking up for the TOTAL scumbags of this industry, protecting the people that are forcing laws of restrictive and prohibitive nature to be forced on all of us, that make ALL the rest of us fight an uphill battle to keep and breed and enjoy OUR reptiles."
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jsrocket said:
I would appreciate it if you could leave out the insults, and just deliver facts.
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I believe he did.
 
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