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:angry::angry:what is the deal we are trying to save the reptile industry with scientific facts and then we have animal planet running a three hour show about the snakes in florida eating everything from evasive rats to the neibors kid i think we should all boycott animal planet they are making all herp owners out to be erisponsible pet owners and last i checked some one that spends a couple of thousand on a snake is not going to release it into the wild. we need to start micro chipping all reptiles in the industry so that they can be tracked and if they are released they would be able to tell who the owner is. what do you all think.

craig sharpe
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gsrept said:
:angry::angry:what is the deal we are trying to save the reptile industry with scientific facts and then we have animal planet running a three hour show about the snakes in florida eating everything from evasive rats to the neibors kid i think we should all boycott animal planet they are making all herp owners out to be erisponsible pet owners and last i checked some one that spends a couple of thousand on a snake is not going to release it into the wild. we need to start micro chipping all reptiles in the industry so that they can be tracked and if they are released they would be able to tell who the owner is. what do you all think.

craig sharpe

I don't think its the thousand dollar morphs that are in the everglades, its the $50.00 normals that get dumped. Thing is, It doesn't matter, a snake is a snake is a snake to them.
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I watched that! Even though they were ruining the reptile industry more to a degree I never new specfically niles were released around there.
 
realize its not the thousand dollar morph but they have were introduced into the glades back in the 1970's and have had the last thirty or so years to proliferate it has nothing to do with the reptile industry.
 
I saw the "Alien" show and the "Fatal Attraction" one and they were both shocking and disgraceful. wtf???? What the hell is wrong with Animal Planet? Unbelievable.
 
Animal Planet is definitely going downhill when it comes to animals, especially reptiles.

They recently did a stunt called "Venom in Vegas" where the host of one of their shows lived in a glass box for 10 days with 100 snakes of a wide variety of species, locales, climates, etc. I was appalled that they considered this stunt humane and "educational."
 
I wouldnt be surprised if Animal Planet is just another front for all of the anti-animal groups in the world. Its propaganda in a nutshell. I know there are tons of Steve Irwin fans out so I hold all statements regarding him but, he was probably the most irresponsible reptile enthusiast out there. If I want to watch animals shows, I will watch National Geographic, and the old 70s shows at that. Those REALLY taught us what animals were like in their natural habitat.
 
Well, all media is propaganda, so Animal Planet isn't unique in that regard. If people would think about what they're watching/reading/seeing instead of just accepting everything as truth, this wouldn't be as much of a problem.

I do have to agree about Steve Irwin, at least a little bit. I do think he did a ton of good, but it doesn't excuse his poor practices (tailing venomous reptiles, for instance).
 
I agree, not everything he did was bad. I just felt that publically showing his carelessness sort of ruined this hobby because I am sure EVERYONE views us as being careless as well as reckless like him.
As for the media propaganda issue, you are right. I am just concerned that now, Animal Planet has become part of the agenda as well. Recently, in the last month or so, I was watching a Jerry Springer spinoff and it showed a reptile keeper with monkeys, hots, dogs, and all sorts of things one shouldnt be exposing on a syndicated national TV show being busted because his moms g/f sons wife's brothers daughter was exposing their infant children to the alligator that slept in their bedroom.
It was disgusting, at best, that someone so careless is representing my hobby on TV. I am not great by any means, but our hobby is and I hate the fact that the only publicity that we get is a negative one.
 
not to get on the irwin trashing band wagon. but i give him credit for his knowledge and enthusiasim for all reptiles and animals in general. i do not agree in the way he went about it. not a help to the reptile industry or animal conservation for that matter and his carelessness is what cost him his life. I honestly think even though we as hobbyists have come so far there are still to many people out there that make impulse buys and i partialy blame the pet stores for selling people certian animals that beginers should not have. not only snaes but this includes a lot of chameleons and large lizards as well.
 
Couldn't agree more, Craig. I firmly believe that pet stores should not be allowed to sell certain reptiles because people who truly know what they're getting into will probably be buying from a breeder anyway (or, at the very least, they wouldn't have a problem with having to buy from a breeder). ProExotics has some great explanations as to why they don't sell certain reptiles: http://www.proexotics.com/FAQ2.html#17, http://www.proexotics.com/FAQ2.html#18.
 
chad brown has always been an outstanding breeder in te industry have not had a chance to buy anything from him but i am considering getting a pair of boleons pythons he has a nice captive group and has babies availible sometimes. great guy and breeder. any who i think the pet stores should have to at least produce some type of record of what they sell and to who they sold it and maybe there should be some type of test for people wanting to buy larger constrictors.
 
im at a loss of words when i seen those shows on animal planet.And the "experts" on there and no reptile lover would agree on any of the "facts" on the show and the so called traping look liked 3 year olds chasing snakes maybe if they took a calm and gently form of obtaining a berm it wouldnt act so pissed off .And python hunting in florida they said their cleared for rifle use come on this is not ice cube and jennifer lopez in "anaconda" its not that serious and why dont they try adoption outside of florida for these animals to responsible owners like us on here i mean i now its about the money with small adoption they could still get paid since thats what their after with the hunting permits in the first place.
 
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I wouldnt be surprised if Animal Planet is just another front for all of the anti-animal groups in the world. Its propaganda in a nutshell. I know there are tons of Steve Irwin fans out so I hold all statements regarding him but, he was probably the most irresponsible reptile enthusiast out there. If I want to watch animals shows, I will watch National Geographic, and the old 70s shows at that. Those REALLY taught us what animals were like in their natural habitat.
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You might want to rethink that statement. I saw a couple things from Nat Geo that just turned my stomach last night. On the other forum that I am an Admin on I asked for "your fav herp related youtube videos." After watching one that was posted a video from Nat Geo was in the related section. Guess what it was about. Killing snakes. They were clubbing a RTB in what looks like native habitat then beheaded it... and they had another clip where they beat and beheaded a viper that was in a sandy habitat. I had to turn off the computer after that. Nat Geo was just sensationalizing the clubbing and killing of snakes.
 
No I am talking about the videos we saw in science class way back when we were in Jr High.. you know those ones Narrated by some old famous guy back when Davey Cricket and Grizzly Adams were famous... LoL
 
I was a bit disgusted as well. It seems to promote that all reptile keepers are irresponsible and all snakes are huge and poisonous. And what was that "hidden camera" doing at the Hamm show???? That just portrayed reptile shows as akin to a drug deal! Even my hubby, who is not into snakes, was getting upset! I muttered something about the Humane Society promoting the show and when the commercials came on, guess what one of the ads was for? Hmmmmm.

Devon
 
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