Anne Troff aka Anne Ripoff

[varnyard]

Daffodil might have been, and I'll relate that possibility to the current owner.
I purchased the male from her 8 weeks ago however, and she only got those imports the day before she shipped him to me, she mentioned it in a PM.

As for the current owner posting here, I sent him a link to the thread, but he never indicated any interest in participating.
I'll mention it again when I email him suggesting he have a float done, he may or may not respond here directly.

Thank Clay. I just did not want to see the snake get sick or die if it has been housed with them.

 

[Clay Davenport]

The current owner of Daffodil will probably not be participating in this thread.
I did just receive an email from him with some details however and he said I could share them with the interested partiees.
He has not seen any mites on her and the price he paid was $1300.

Apparently she did receive a better offer and that was the reason she backed out with Scott.

 

[ravensgait]

Gee for once I'm sorry I was right.. Well better to know now folks than to find out the hard way later..Randy

 

[Dennis Hultman]

Clay, I will take your word any day.

Anne,
The long story told on this thread
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82806 and the continuation of it here, is enough for me to state I would never trust you.

Any willing to cut her some slack now? She lied from the beginning with that bogus mite story!

This community doesn’t need any more people like this.

 

[Jason Thurber]

"Okay I am replying to Jason Thurber How bout you tell ever one your connection with Anne troff like how last year she was living with you and you two committed your love together"

Are you jealous....and if so, of who exactly? Me, Anne, or both?
Well, jealousy is just one of the things that you have to deal with when TRYING to be a man in a womans body now isn't it?

"(I hope thats allowed to be said)"

Yes Kris, we will allow that to be said. We will also pretend that you are mature and competant, that your Mommy doesn't carry your USDA license for you, that your animals are purchased with money that YOU have earned (not your Daddy), and that your grammer skills aren't a reflection of your level of intelligence.

"And how bout you tell them what you did to get your leucistic from Judie"

Paid her about two thousand dollars and told her what she needed to know in order to produce them. You forget that snakes is what I started working with in the first place (back when you were in diapers) and that mutations is something that snake breeders like myself have been working with for years. Search the archives on GC and, unless they've been removed, you will find that I was explaining genetics to the members of that board when no one there understood them. When the few people that owned leucistics couldn't figure out why they weren't producing any when breeding them to standard phase gliders, I told them why.
You probably don't realize it, but you wouldn't have half of the 'high-end' gliders that you have if my brains hadn't rolled down the hill and hit you in your little gourd.

"how you THREATENED to SUE her if she didnt SELL you one because you wanted a HET not a LEUCISTICS"

The agreement was that if she ended up with hets, I would get a het, and if she ended up with leucistics, I would get a leucistic. She ended up with leucistics.

"and you scared the crap out of her and you dont give"

I can't make a person feel fear. They do that on their own.
If she felt fear, then she must have felt that she was guilty of something.
Possibly breaching our verbal contract (our 'intangible' letter of agreement, if you will)? That being the case, it wasn't me she feared. I suspect that it was a judgement in my favor and the humility that would come with it.

"but if people would like to learn more on Jason and Annes connection please read here http://www.glidersanonymous.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3313"

I encourage anybody to read it (along with the other threads).
The people that run that board have no credibility and it shows. In the two years or so that they've kept that tripe on their forums, they have never been able to validate ANY of their claims in regards to my business (practices, ethics, etc., etc) and as a matter of fact, the only people that added to that thread that I had done some business with had nothing but nice things to say about me (Stacie Jolley, for instance) and once that started, my posts were edited in an effort to make me look as scurvy as the board owners themselves and a lock was put on the thread/s.

"You guys must beware when buying from both of these two just make sure you get what you wanted from them"

Wrong group, Kris. This isn't the 'glider community'. You won't be winning any hearts by directing negative energy towards or making unfounded accusations against other people. Here you'll have to earn the trust and respect the good old fashioned way and what that entails is being true to yourself and to others.
Before wasting your time with another post, please bare in mind that I will NOT dignify it or you with another reply. You'll have to find another set o' shoulders to ride on.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I just wanted to point out that you can tell when a photo was taken useing a digital camera because the information is coded into the photo.

The screenshot I attached is showing the information for the picture for post #110.

 

[Dennis Hultman]

I just wanted to point out that you can tell when a photo was taken useing a digital camera because the information is coded into the photo.

The screenshot I attached is showing the information for the picture for post #110.

You mean it wasn’t “yesterday”!

Posted 07-08-2006, 01:09 PM

I took this picture of her yesterday. It's not a very good picture. I can only take pictures on bright days because my new camera isn't very good at capturing pictures any other day... they always come out blurry.

 

[Dennis Hultman]

QUOTE=PerfectPetPython]

I understand why I am not trusted... and I accept that. But I know in my heart that I've changed, and you won't see another post about me like this one.[/QUOTE]

You lied bout the pictures you supposable just took. You lied about the snake having mites. You lied about growing attached to the snake and not selling him. You lied when you said you would hold the snake for Scott.
Dang, kind of hard to find truthful posts anywhere.

I don't want my Daffodil going to him. Sorry, she's my first morph, and I've grown attached to her. I'm not going to send her someone who just snaps like that on me.

I probably shouldn't have cancelled it, but I also didn't want him to accuse me of stealing his money. I knew that he could always just resend it after she was cured... I didn't know how long it would take to cure her, and honestly was just a little overwhelmed by the situation.

After reading his post about me, I definately am not going to sell her to him now though, after she is cured. I will probably just end up keeping her. I didn't know it would cause this much of a ruccess!

I'm sorry, but this is disturbing to me. I don't want to send out sick animals via the mail, whether someone wants them or not! She needed to be soaked and paid close attention to tonight, not sent in a shipping box with no water for the night to someone who, right now, I'm questioning his care for his own animals as he pokes fun of me taking my mite-infested snake to the vet for help and advice.

I'm sorry, I hit the submit button by accident.
I took this picture of her yesterday. It's not a very good picture. I can only take pictures on bright days because my new camera isn't very good at capturing pictures any other day... they always come out blurry.

She also appears to have some scars and there are a few scales that have turned a darker color. The picture's not very clear, but you can kind of see them.
Is this a sign she could have internal parasites too?

She was not housed with the new ones, but their enclosures are right by them. I do not remember if I've told you guys this, but I did let someone locally pick the babies up. I feel I have too much on my plate right now and need to take care of the ones I have.

I need to go back to the vet. I have not as of yet, it's been about 7-8 days.

I guess you have a point.
I would like to wait until she's healthy though, I'm supposed to be treating her for parasites both internally and externally. I need to figure out what steps need to be taken next.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

You mean it wasn’t “yesterday”!

Posted 07-08-2006, 01:09 PM

My answer to that would be yes, it wasn't taken yesterday.

Though she was truthful about her Camera being a Canon.

Attached with this post is a screenshot of the 1st picture of post #133. Though she did say this photo was taken a while ago.

Note: Their is a way to remove the information encoded. Though I will not post it as this is information the BOI can benefit from. So though I can identify and provide this information in this case, sometimes it is not possible.

 

[Neverland Dragons]

Right after Anne said she would not be posting any more. I thought, "You should at least stick around until this is resolved.....If you are telling the truth." Then I saw the post that she had indeed sold the snake to someone else. I am glad that Scott did receive his money back. That is the beauty of this board. There is usually someone...who knows somone....who knows something about the issue at hand. The BOI did another fine job of exposing someone that is bad news and saving people the headache of dealing with her in the future.

 

[Griz]

Well, it's good to see that the BOI once again accomplishes it's goals! If you give them enough rope........

Griz

 

[varnyard]

Great work guys!! Another one found the BOI, as well as Fauna works!!

 

[Lucille]

The BOI did another fine job of exposing someone that is bad news and saving people the headache of dealing with her in the future.

I'm glad no one lost money here, thanks to the BOI; but I can't help but be disappointed that this young person is apparently not interested in changing her ways.

 

[KristopherDeRose]

"Okay I am replying to Jason Thurber How bout you tell ever one your connection with Anne troff like how last year she was living with you and you two committed your love together"

Are you jealous....and if so, of who exactly? Me, Anne, or both?
Well, jealousy is just one of the things that you have to deal with when TRYING to be a man in a womans body now isn't it?

"(I hope thats allowed to be said)"

Yes Kris, we will allow that to be said. We will also pretend that you are mature and competant, that your Mommy doesn't carry your USDA license for you, that your animals are purchased with money that YOU have earned (not your Daddy), and that your grammer skills aren't a reflection of your level of intelligence.

"And how bout you tell them what you did to get your leucistic from Judie"

Paid her about two thousand dollars and told her what she needed to know in order to produce them. You forget that snakes is what I started working with in the first place (back when you were in diapers) and that mutations is something that snake breeders like myself have been working with for years. Search the archives on GC and, unless they've been removed, you will find that I was explaining genetics to the members of that board when no one there understood them. When the few people that owned leucistics couldn't figure out why they weren't producing any when breeding them to standard phase gliders, I told them why.
You probably don't realize it, but you wouldn't have half of the 'high-end' gliders that you have if my brains hadn't rolled down the hill and hit you in your little gourd.

"how you THREATENED to SUE her if she didnt SELL you one because you wanted a HET not a LEUCISTICS"

The agreement was that if she ended up with hets, I would get a het, and if she ended up with leucistics, I would get a leucistic. She ended up with leucistics.

"and you scared the crap out of her and you dont give"

I can't make a person feel fear. They do that on their own.
If she felt fear, then she must have felt that she was guilty of something.
Possibly breaching our verbal contract (our 'intangible' letter of agreement, if you will)? That being the case, it wasn't me she feared. I suspect that it was a judgement in my favor and the humility that would come with it.

"but if people would like to learn more on Jason and Annes connection please read here http://www.glidersanonymous.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3313"

I encourage anybody to read it (along with the other threads).
The people that run that board have no credibility and it shows. In the two years or so that they've kept that tripe on their forums, they have never been able to validate ANY of their claims in regards to my business (practices, ethics, etc., etc) and as a matter of fact, the only people that added to that thread that I had done some business with had nothing but nice things to say about me (Stacie Jolley, for instance) and once that started, my posts were edited in an effort to make me look as scurvy as the board owners themselves and a lock was put on the thread/s.

"You guys must beware when buying from both of these two just make sure you get what you wanted from them"

Wrong group, Kris. This isn't the 'glider community'. You won't be winning any hearts by directing negative energy towards or making unfounded accusations against other people. Here you'll have to earn the trust and respect the good old fashioned way and what that entails is being true to yourself and to others.
Before wasting your time with another post, please bare in mind that I will NOT dignify it or you with another reply. You'll have to find another set o' shoulders to ride on.

LOL Jason this is me caring.... OH WAIT I DONT!

And yeah Im the one thats jealous. NOT Your the one that is jealous because I have a better reputation then you in the glider world and I am only 16 and I know genetic and how NOT TO INBREED unlike you that inbreeds an animal that already has genetic problems like the albino.... Atleast I take the time and spend the money to get the proper mate for my gliders. and who do you think that you are trying to scare? Me well its not working you can insult me all you want because i dont give a rats behind if you say anything...

You guys im out Im not up for the reptile comunity if that douche bag is in it because hes an ass and I would never deal with him in a million years.... but if you guys would like more info please join www.animalcraze.net and make a new topic about it and I will tell you guys all I know.... also sorry for the foul language....

 

[Chameleon Company]

Scott,
Had to go back and check the first post to be sure I was in the right thread ! Amazing .... paid membership had its advantages !
Not sure how you still feel about this deal, or if this would apply here based on all that is now known, but as a rule I am often glad to be able to get out of a deal as soon as there is the first whiff of stink. Most of us enter a deal extending trust that the other end of it is on the up-and-up, verifying where we hope to and are able to (in the words of Romulus Maximus, aka Ronald Reagan, "trust but verify"). As soon as something goes amiss or seems improper, I extend the assumption that there are more things wrong as well, possibly that a Pandora's box awaits. Deals by-the-numbers by credible suppliers (and buyers) are not hard to do, and that a "sour grapes" analogy is sometimes wise (problems getting it for reasons that should not exist, ..... wasn't worth having).

In the meantime, I thank the sugar-glider folks who had positive input here. As for your squabbles ..... kindly "shoo" ?

 

[Jason Thurber]

"In the meantime, I thank the sugar-glider folks who had positive input here. As for your squabbles ..... kindly "shoo"

Jim,
All due respect, but does the word squabbling translate to.......
Defending your position as a reputable breeder against attacks and accusations that could negatively affect your business?

Although you probably haven't heard or seen my name until now (I'm not much of a poster, kinda low-keyed), I've been keeping and breeding snakes (boids), as well as a variety of exotic mammals, including some species on the CITES list (which, according to the USDA and APHIS, are illegal to send across state lines unless they are being donated, just to let you know) professionally since 2000 (and much longer than that on a hobby level).

I agree that senseless tit for tats are out of order (and that I am not the topic of discussion within this particular thread), but defending yourself against claims such as the ones laid on me through that boy is half of what the purpose of this board is, isn't it?

- Jason


"Having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better information, or fuller consideration, to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin

 

[romad119]

Jason and Kris:

Thanks for teh input realted to Anne. Other then that, please start a thread somewhere if one warrants. Hell or somewhere else. Thanks.

 

[Jason Thurber]

Jason and Kris:

Thanks for teh input realted to Anne. Other then that, please start a thread somewhere if one warrants. Hell or somewhere else. Thanks.

I didn't really offer any input in regards to Anne, so no thanks is neccesary.
I don't care to or feel the need to start a thread, but if I did or do, it would or will be somewhere else.
I do realize that this is a reptile related forum and that the posts had to do with mammals (or my dealings with them anyway).
As I stated before, in more words,
I had to defend my position as a breeder. My business feeds my children, my animals, and myself and I don't want there to be any misconcepions on the part of any potential customers. I hope you can understand.

- Jason

 

[romad119]

Jason,

I meant as in other parts of fauna etc. Not as in 'don't let the door hit you on the way out."

 

[Jason Thurber]

Right on Alan.
I knew what you meant, but just the same, it was kind of you to clarify.

- Jason