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Announcement: Bad deal with Stuart "John" McDonald of Pasadena, TX.

Matt, you need to give us some more information of your transaction with this person. How long ago did this happen and what was involved. Was it trade, a sale, or a purchase. What went wrong? I'm not doubting you at all, but more information is needed. Have you notified them of your post??
 
This was suppost to be a sale of several animals which I payed for all of them in full and he never sent. If you would like to take a look at the complaint that I filed with the IFCC the case number is I04032818467051. It has all the information with each transaction, dates, etc. I am not sure that I understand your question about notifying someone about the post... Anyway the first transaction that I payed for was on October 16th 2004. The last payment that I sent him was on Dec 10th. He told me that the reptiles that he was suppost to send me were sick and that if they did not get better that he would replace them with animals that were worth more money or more animals. He told me that he lost a $10,000 snake to this infection or disease and did not want to send me snakes that could infect my colony. He also told me that some of the animals he was going to sell me, a guy ripped him off for. He basicly played on my emotions and made me believe that he was ripped off and in a tight spot, when all along I was the one being ripped off. If you would like I can email you a copy of the IFCC report. This way you can look over all the dates and what not.
 
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This is a picture of one of the snakes I was suppost to recieve. I will post the rest below.
 
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I would not be suprised. I just wanted to let everyone know again, thank you for all of your replys and I appreciate all of your help.
 
Bad Deal

1st..................
Matt Bruner,your as crazy as they come.You got your snakes
& you know it.I have all invoices &shipping bills!!!!!!!! Yes the deal went sour that I tryed to help you with on the gekos......But that happens sometimes. When they find that Mike Newhouse we will both get our money back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You can cry all you want , butYour wrong.I offered to replace anything you weren't happy with & you said things were fine.So as far as I am concerned, we are through!!!!!!!!!!!

2nd.....Casey always got to get involed, Why don't you tell everyone about the 1500. you owe me for the price of the albino & two hets that you sent me that were sick &died...........I spent over $400. taking them to the Vet & the having the Patholgy work done so we would know just what we were up against!!!!!!!!! Then you him haul around & finaly send me 500 of the Total.........................Now lets talk turkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you see we all have skeltons in our pantrys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John S. Mc Donald:D
 
Matt, in the other thread you said this

I was buying several animals and the total was over $5000.00. I was buying some het boas, 1 snow boa, and knobtail geckos. I have had many replies about this topic and I just wanted to let everyone know that I appreciate all of your help and time.
In these pictures I see a young albino boa (nice) and and adult albino boa and 2 normal (wild) boas. Did he send a picture of a snow boa? Thanx
 
I knew it

I had a gut feeling about Stuart, I guess I should have gone with my gut and not given you any refund after 6 weeks. You are proving to be a bad one Stuart. You are a liar and should be avoided.
 
BAD DEAL

Yes Casey I'm The bad one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who sent me the sick snakes. You talked to the Vet & he told you there was NO dought that they were sick when you sent them to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you stand behind your deal??????? No you didn't , The only reason you paid me anything back was so I wouldn't put on this site..............Remenber you were worried it might hurt your cage selling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you still want to talk turkey
J S Mc D
 
You are a liar

I sent you 3 snakes, 4 weeks later 1 regurges and dies (you said), I sent half your $$ back, 2 weeks later the albino gets sick and dies before you can even get it to the vet, after talking to the vet to confirm he had seen a dead albino that you brought him, I sent you half that $$ back. The vet told me it got adenovirus from another snake, you swore you had NO other boas and your hygene was great. I felt bad that you were out and the boa had died (right now I am not certain who you got the boa from because you obviously had several albinos at the time, or at least the pictures) so I sent you the half refund.

This is an email from Stuart after the het died

"casey thats not why I called, I didn't expect any thing from you..It wasn't your fault.........Let me know what you have for sale that might help my breeding program.
right now this is what I have.
a) albino female from you
b) Het for albino female from you
c) het for ghost Male (who Knows)
d) then the striped male 66% het for albino

Anyway thank's again your a credit to our hobby,If there is anything I can do to help or be of service to you ,Please call.
Merry X-mas,
Stuart

"Casey Looks like I might lose this albino female, she is alert, but doesn't have any energy,just lays there. There was 1 normal stool in cage, &1 loose..........I picked her up & let her slide through my hands & a yellow loose stool was coming from her anus. Got any ideas I'm at a loss.Never seen anything like this, looking back the male het acted same way.
Please call me collect at ........Looks like my albino boa project is going to <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>!!!!!!!!
Thanks,

Stuart Mc Donald

Subj: Re: sick boa
Date: 12/23/2003 8:02:23 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: Thirtypt
To: [email protected]



Wow. I am sorry to hear that. I am not sure what you are describing, I have not seen a yellow stool, could it be urates? I would take her to the vet asap if I were you. The lethargy could be several things including an RI, but usually they have a snotty mouth and some mucous.

Casey and Darla Hulse
Natures Spirit Reptiles/Snake Shacks
www.nsreptiles.com
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
fax 269-649-2936

Subj: Phone #
Date: 1/7/2004 11:03:12 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)




Casey,
My phone # is 281....................& yes I agree neither of us should have to take a full loss.I'm happy with splitting the loss.....Talk to the doc & call me and let me know what you think..............This isn't worth a friendship.!!
Thanks,
Stuart

This was sent to me by Stuart after this thread was started.

Casey,I read it, People who have done business with me know better than that..............The guy sent me a bad check, not a money order.......As far as the Mexican Boas, 1 was dead & the other had a respertory Infcection......You know If I wqas that kind of person, I would have Taken & put your name on BOI, but as far as I'm concerned that site is nothing but Bull <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>!!! A place for children to cry on.I don't play games,I've been doing this for over40 years..........People are going to have differences...........It should be between them not the whloe world, all I have to do is say so & so screwed me & the show is on!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your word against mine.
Thanks,
Stuart
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: BOI


Hi Stuart. There is a post about you on the BOI you may want to address. Take care Casey

Casey and Darla Hulse
Natures Spirit Reptiles/Snake Shacks
www.nsreptiles.com

Subj: Re: BOI
Date: 3/17/2004 11:30:30 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Thirtypt
To: [email protected]



I guess I owe you a big "THANK YOU", I am tempted to write more, but I will let it go. Good luck

In a message dated 3/17/2004 11:09:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] write

Casey stop &think about our dealings................Most people would have demanded thier money back, I lost over a thousand dollars on our dealings, Thats Vet bill, Patholgy work ups &Snakes.................Now anyone else would have raised Hell about that kind of loss,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,You would have, wouldn't you??? You see thats what I ment about BOI being bull <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>, Anyone can write anything about anybody on it Proof are not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now if I had posted the facts about our deal,Where do you think you would have stood in the eyes of others? I feel I got screwed,But you feel that what you did was fair...................Thats Differences...................As far as you Questionong me about the hets for sale,Which isn't any of your concern, They were being sold for Dr Stewart from Pamana Canal , I helped him as a favor, selling them.
Stuart.

Subj: Re: BOI
Date: 3/18/2004 6:26:17 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)




Casey
Nothing was ment <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>ty, I was just trying to explain How differences Happened..................Think about it, Have you had anyone tell you I wasd bad mouthing you?............As far as I was concerned, it was a dead subject.Sorry you took it wrong.................I want get into a you said I said fight!!!!!!!!!!!!! Read between the lines on the Kids Story...........No one is going to sell anyone 100% Hets for $75.00..............I Talked to my lawer yesterday, And I have all my Ducks in a row.Look @ our dealings, They were done on a professional level, anyway I don't have explain myself to anyone but My Maker.
Good Luck & sorry if I offended you................Maybe I was upset about that Kids Bull <font color=red>[**censored**]</font> story....................But Its just another day in a life
Stuart

You think I have skeletons in my closet? A 50% refund after 6 weeks seemed more than fair.
 
Read & weep!!!!!!!!! You & I both know about the snakes.........I was waitting for you to offer to do your part.................At the time & also right now Its ok with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was just trying to show you that when you try & jump on the band wagon with out really knowing what happen it can bite you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway this is my last Post Ever, this SITE isn't nothing but a ( I'm mad @ you cause you got the best end of the Deal!!!)

S Mc D
 
50 %

Casey,

A 50% refund after 6 weeks is more than fair, especially for albinos and hets which are not the strongest strains anyway..

I know I will always deal with Casey with confidence. I also know who I won't be dealing with! :(
 
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