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Give him his refund.
Give him his refund.
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Anthony McCain is a guy to avoid
- Thread starter evansnakes
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evansnakes
New member
So let me get this straight for those that don't know what you are referring to Anthony. You admit here that you did threaten people's lives, threaten to burn down their houses and threaten their wives? Are you finally being honest about something?
Bob, Justin, thank you.
Anthony won't give me a refund though because he needs the money that is the only reason he would keep it at this point. If he really was as well off as he posts he would have refunded my money long ago and resold the animal but he can't because everyone that knows him and has done business with him knows that he is constantly desperate for cash and sells animals dirt cheap to raise money he needs. Like his $775 mojaves on kingsnake.
Jim, I have not attacked Anthony at all. I have been very kind in this thread compared to what I could be and there are many people watching this thread that could tell you stories that would absolutley shine a light on this and give you a better understanding of what is going on. I have not made one statement in this thread that can't be backed up by many many people. Anthony has done nothing but insult and attack everyone. That is what he does. Does anyone think that he will have this kind of courage in a face to face meeting?
It has already been mentioned to me how afraid Anthony is of everyone he picks these fights with and that is why he hooks up people to function as body guards for him at shows, he threatens people with his dogs as he did to me in this very thread and talks about guns and in fact keeps them handy as he has to worry about so many people coming back to bite him in the ass that he has wronged in this way.
Bob, Justin, thank you.
Anthony won't give me a refund though because he needs the money that is the only reason he would keep it at this point. If he really was as well off as he posts he would have refunded my money long ago and resold the animal but he can't because everyone that knows him and has done business with him knows that he is constantly desperate for cash and sells animals dirt cheap to raise money he needs. Like his $775 mojaves on kingsnake.
Jim, I have not attacked Anthony at all. I have been very kind in this thread compared to what I could be and there are many people watching this thread that could tell you stories that would absolutley shine a light on this and give you a better understanding of what is going on. I have not made one statement in this thread that can't be backed up by many many people. Anthony has done nothing but insult and attack everyone. That is what he does. Does anyone think that he will have this kind of courage in a face to face meeting?
It has already been mentioned to me how afraid Anthony is of everyone he picks these fights with and that is why he hooks up people to function as body guards for him at shows, he threatens people with his dogs as he did to me in this very thread and talks about guns and in fact keeps them handy as he has to worry about so many people coming back to bite him in the ass that he has wronged in this way.
Jim O
Careful with that axe...
LadyOhh said:
Sadly two people have rolled around in the sty and come out smelling less appealing than roses, though Anthony you're looking (and smelling) a heck of a lot worse than your "opponent".
Cancel the deal. Give Evan his due. He doesn't want to go through with it and who could blame him at this point? And beyond that, why would you want to go through with it either? It can only end badly for you both.
Anthony McCain
New member
A deal is a deal people..
The animal is 100% what I proclaimed it to be , anyone that knows the quality of my animals already knows that I sell only animals I would buy myself.
Evan will not get the satisfaction of me undoing all this after all this that he unjustly started here, it doen't work that way. I assumed all the risk of keeping/housing and feeding this animal , and tied up this amount of money for HIM , this is how he treats me??
A deal is a deal , I will hold up to my end of the deal and deliver the animal once the checks clear to Tinley and AVOID ANY shipping risk by hand delivering it to him.. I think it is best to tape record the animal and how it feeds , he is flawless , I think I will tape him eating 2 mice just to set the record straight as to how vigorous he already is, no pics I'm talking video, I'll bring that along too for the show.. We may as well cover ALL the bases at this point right Evan?
Anyone that talks to me the way Evan has deserves zero respect from me as his comments were far worse than any of mine...
His attempts to make me look bad are attempts that will be addressed in a professional manner on the sales level down the road I assure you, I will make a point of it, that is a promise..
I will consider this whole matter a lesson learned and will not name drop again as it obviously just gives people like Evan the fuel they need to start unnecessary issues that are under the belt the way I see it, cheap shots are dirty in my book. I guess that just tells me all I really need to know about Evan as a person, perhaps you need alot more help than I based on your comments and actions over the past few days..
I will bring the unproven animal that you think may be a gold mine even though compared to me you have ZERO idea of what your looking at considering the fact that I along with 3 others here in the USA know what it takes to make the Cyclones UNLIKE you who only knows what others "think" to be the genetic markers that the codominant trait visually shows. I will gladly give her back to you if you can prove to me this animal is anything less than what I have stated or told you from the begining.. I will also have the cash with me to , whatever the amount that clears the bank is the dollar amount I will bring , if need be I will write you a check to cover anything that is still pending at the bank , if that is you can come up with any claim that is valid as to why you can't take the animal , an animal you bought from the picture on the KS classifieds MONTHS ago..
Normally in a situation like this I would paypal back or mail out a cashiers check for any, I mean ANY money, that changed hands and give a full refund , but this is ridiculous at this point and I just like Evan am trying to prove my point as well.. I agree this gains nothing coming on here defending myself for all to point fingers at , but nonetheless Evan went out of his way to make ALL this into an ordeal and I will not back down to his childish behavior nor his narrow minded threats , he doesn't scare me , he is no longer someone I would consider a peer but is now someone in my eyes that I could NEVER trust as he has proved to me many times that he is the liar and feels the need to make things up as he goes to make himself look better than I ..
So again for the LAST time , I am not going to comment anymore about this , you ALL know what actions I will be taking in detail so we will wrap this up in Tinley and we will move on from that point.. Bottom line is I will hold up to 110% of my end of this deal and once the Super is PAID IN FULL we will be finished with the whole thing.. I cannot speak for the actions others decide to take , but I do know where I stand here, that is all I need to be accounted for and be aware of..... Again I am sorry this thread got to this point , perhaps Evan started something that he should not have.. CASE CLOSED .. Anthony......
The animal is 100% what I proclaimed it to be , anyone that knows the quality of my animals already knows that I sell only animals I would buy myself.
Evan will not get the satisfaction of me undoing all this after all this that he unjustly started here, it doen't work that way. I assumed all the risk of keeping/housing and feeding this animal , and tied up this amount of money for HIM , this is how he treats me??
A deal is a deal , I will hold up to my end of the deal and deliver the animal once the checks clear to Tinley and AVOID ANY shipping risk by hand delivering it to him.. I think it is best to tape record the animal and how it feeds , he is flawless , I think I will tape him eating 2 mice just to set the record straight as to how vigorous he already is, no pics I'm talking video, I'll bring that along too for the show.. We may as well cover ALL the bases at this point right Evan?
Anyone that talks to me the way Evan has deserves zero respect from me as his comments were far worse than any of mine...
His attempts to make me look bad are attempts that will be addressed in a professional manner on the sales level down the road I assure you, I will make a point of it, that is a promise..
I will consider this whole matter a lesson learned and will not name drop again as it obviously just gives people like Evan the fuel they need to start unnecessary issues that are under the belt the way I see it, cheap shots are dirty in my book. I guess that just tells me all I really need to know about Evan as a person, perhaps you need alot more help than I based on your comments and actions over the past few days..
I will bring the unproven animal that you think may be a gold mine even though compared to me you have ZERO idea of what your looking at considering the fact that I along with 3 others here in the USA know what it takes to make the Cyclones UNLIKE you who only knows what others "think" to be the genetic markers that the codominant trait visually shows. I will gladly give her back to you if you can prove to me this animal is anything less than what I have stated or told you from the begining.. I will also have the cash with me to , whatever the amount that clears the bank is the dollar amount I will bring , if need be I will write you a check to cover anything that is still pending at the bank , if that is you can come up with any claim that is valid as to why you can't take the animal , an animal you bought from the picture on the KS classifieds MONTHS ago..
Normally in a situation like this I would paypal back or mail out a cashiers check for any, I mean ANY money, that changed hands and give a full refund , but this is ridiculous at this point and I just like Evan am trying to prove my point as well.. I agree this gains nothing coming on here defending myself for all to point fingers at , but nonetheless Evan went out of his way to make ALL this into an ordeal and I will not back down to his childish behavior nor his narrow minded threats , he doesn't scare me , he is no longer someone I would consider a peer but is now someone in my eyes that I could NEVER trust as he has proved to me many times that he is the liar and feels the need to make things up as he goes to make himself look better than I ..
So again for the LAST time , I am not going to comment anymore about this , you ALL know what actions I will be taking in detail so we will wrap this up in Tinley and we will move on from that point.. Bottom line is I will hold up to 110% of my end of this deal and once the Super is PAID IN FULL we will be finished with the whole thing.. I cannot speak for the actions others decide to take , but I do know where I stand here, that is all I need to be accounted for and be aware of..... Again I am sorry this thread got to this point , perhaps Evan started something that he should not have.. CASE CLOSED .. Anthony......
Anthony, after all that has transpired, why would he want your animal or even trust you that you are giving him what he paid for? Give the man his money back and be done with it. You have already done irreparable damage to your reputation here (and I would venture to say that Evan might have done some to his own although on a much less memorable scale).
Chameleon Company
New member
Anthony,
While I am in the camp that agrees that neither party here has maintained the high ground in the debate, if your policy would be to "grant anyone else a full refund" except Evan because of the antagonism here, then maybe you could head back towards the high ground by treating him as you would any other regardless. Just IMHO.
While I am in the camp that agrees that neither party here has maintained the high ground in the debate, if your policy would be to "grant anyone else a full refund" except Evan because of the antagonism here, then maybe you could head back towards the high ground by treating him as you would any other regardless. Just IMHO.
evansnakes
New member
Nobody is buying what you are selling Anthony. trying to take a moral high ground now? That is a joke. You took a risk holding the animal? I sent you money and an animal and you sent me nothing. Where exactly is your risk in that? I would love for you to address my points.
You keep calling me a liar. what have I lied about? I posted your emails. everyone saw the way you talk to your customers. Your peers on this board responded and you attacked them. I would bet you will not find one person that will say one negative thing about Corey Woods, but you attacking him for posting the facts of your insane barage towards him when he did nothing. He did not contact you. He sold you nothing. He purchased nothing from you. You attacked him in email and again on here.
I posted FACTS about your moronic behavior, you responded by talking about your average credit rating, your small bank account and your bills. You are so insecure and so ludricus that you have posted so much garbage so off topic it is amazing! I have not posted one lie on here. You have my money and my animal and I have nothing.
You have slandered and attacked people that you had no reason to as they were not involved in this transaction. If Ian is pissed at you, too bad. You were dumb enough to drag him into this, you fix it. If he wants to talk to me I am always happy to talk to him. I like Ian. But you screwed up pal, not me. In one day you insulted, attacked, alienated and disparaged dozens of people. You are a pariah. The business would be much better off with you out of it. Jim, Marc, Dan, Collete, Ed, Justin, Corey, Bob, Ian and myself, all have been attacked and insulted by you, because you have problems you choose not deal with. And you can keep trying to dump this on me and say that this is a unique situation but everybody sees and knows that this is a pattern of behavior with you that goes back more than ten years and you are going to have to pay for your mistakes. You are not ten years old so stop acting like and clean up your mess yourself instead of dragging others into it that don't deserve your garbage.
You keep calling me a liar. what have I lied about? I posted your emails. everyone saw the way you talk to your customers. Your peers on this board responded and you attacked them. I would bet you will not find one person that will say one negative thing about Corey Woods, but you attacking him for posting the facts of your insane barage towards him when he did nothing. He did not contact you. He sold you nothing. He purchased nothing from you. You attacked him in email and again on here.
I posted FACTS about your moronic behavior, you responded by talking about your average credit rating, your small bank account and your bills. You are so insecure and so ludricus that you have posted so much garbage so off topic it is amazing! I have not posted one lie on here. You have my money and my animal and I have nothing.
You have slandered and attacked people that you had no reason to as they were not involved in this transaction. If Ian is pissed at you, too bad. You were dumb enough to drag him into this, you fix it. If he wants to talk to me I am always happy to talk to him. I like Ian. But you screwed up pal, not me. In one day you insulted, attacked, alienated and disparaged dozens of people. You are a pariah. The business would be much better off with you out of it. Jim, Marc, Dan, Collete, Ed, Justin, Corey, Bob, Ian and myself, all have been attacked and insulted by you, because you have problems you choose not deal with. And you can keep trying to dump this on me and say that this is a unique situation but everybody sees and knows that this is a pattern of behavior with you that goes back more than ten years and you are going to have to pay for your mistakes. You are not ten years old so stop acting like and clean up your mess yourself instead of dragging others into it that don't deserve your garbage.
Anthony McCain
New member
lies WON'T GET YOU anywhere Evan..
I NEVER said anything about anyones wife , hell you need to dream up some more crap or better yet post EXACTLY whom you are refering to as it is nothing that can be backed up as fact , I am finished with you Evan , get a life, get some sleep and try growing some hair "Mr Clean" while your at it.. I AM NOT worried about you Evan , perhaps you should get in your car , bring the $1000 you STILL OWE me , COME to my house personally and I will , feed your snake in front of you, let you inspect it over for as long as your simple mind desires , tear up your "robbing peter to pay Paul " checks and tell you to get OFF my land before the law is needed , and NEVER I MEAN never ask me for anything or even so much as look me in the eyes as I will consider it a threat based on your message regarding your intentions to "leave me for dead in a ditch" and will at that point defend myself WITH MY BARE HANDS pal, screw the silly gun crap......... I will NOT give you the satisfaction of making this EASY on you as you have done nothing here but pushed buttons in an attempt to be funny , and take things out of context and turn a snowflake into a blizzard., out of pure jealousy the way I see it. You are a real piece of work Evan , by the way I am very poor Evan , I have nothing compared to you, times are rough here in Iowa too, ALL the animals I have produced or sold I gave away to people like you that I thought were my friends in the begining, I tried to sell a good animal to you at a MORE than fair price and kept him here till you were ready and this is how I get treated, whatever man, take it elsewhere dude......... I guess it is just luck then that I have what I have ..I guess I really have never produced anything of value compared to you Evan, it's so sad you see, I know nothing compared to you LORD Evan . There you go , I said it Evan , I am nothing compared to you, regardless a deal is a deal, see ya in a few . I did my homework here and have nothing to hide , you dragging out stuff in peoples closets from a long time ago has nothing to do with this, that was taken care of then this is now Evan.
Your just lucky that I have matured considerably since then for your sake, as your actions today cause my blood pressure to spike , and there was a day that I would have been the one getting in the car and driving to your house , I'm still not afraid of you by the way , it's just that I have more important things to do than to deal with someone as stubborn as you, you are how old ??.............
Good luck to you Evan , try getting a little more sleep before you start running your mouth again. Anthony...
I NEVER said anything about anyones wife , hell you need to dream up some more crap or better yet post EXACTLY whom you are refering to as it is nothing that can be backed up as fact , I am finished with you Evan , get a life, get some sleep and try growing some hair "Mr Clean" while your at it.. I AM NOT worried about you Evan , perhaps you should get in your car , bring the $1000 you STILL OWE me , COME to my house personally and I will , feed your snake in front of you, let you inspect it over for as long as your simple mind desires , tear up your "robbing peter to pay Paul " checks and tell you to get OFF my land before the law is needed , and NEVER I MEAN never ask me for anything or even so much as look me in the eyes as I will consider it a threat based on your message regarding your intentions to "leave me for dead in a ditch" and will at that point defend myself WITH MY BARE HANDS pal, screw the silly gun crap......... I will NOT give you the satisfaction of making this EASY on you as you have done nothing here but pushed buttons in an attempt to be funny , and take things out of context and turn a snowflake into a blizzard., out of pure jealousy the way I see it. You are a real piece of work Evan , by the way I am very poor Evan , I have nothing compared to you, times are rough here in Iowa too, ALL the animals I have produced or sold I gave away to people like you that I thought were my friends in the begining, I tried to sell a good animal to you at a MORE than fair price and kept him here till you were ready and this is how I get treated, whatever man, take it elsewhere dude......... I guess it is just luck then that I have what I have ..I guess I really have never produced anything of value compared to you Evan, it's so sad you see, I know nothing compared to you LORD Evan . There you go , I said it Evan , I am nothing compared to you, regardless a deal is a deal, see ya in a few . I did my homework here and have nothing to hide , you dragging out stuff in peoples closets from a long time ago has nothing to do with this, that was taken care of then this is now Evan.
Your just lucky that I have matured considerably since then for your sake, as your actions today cause my blood pressure to spike , and there was a day that I would have been the one getting in the car and driving to your house , I'm still not afraid of you by the way , it's just that I have more important things to do than to deal with someone as stubborn as you, you are how old ??.............
Good luck to you Evan , try getting a little more sleep before you start running your mouth again. Anthony...
evansnakes
New member
Wow is that all you have Anthony? Let's recap, you commented on my sleep habits, my shaved head and my post dated checks (THAT YOU REQUESTED). So that is your explanation for your behavior? And you question my maturity? The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You are not going to be able to climb out. I hope everyone notices that you still won't say anything about the death threats and buring people's houses down. I thought that after you posted 10 times how dead this thread was and how you were never coming back to it that you were done, but the truth is you just can't stop can you Anthony? You have no ability to stop yourself from behaving like a child and acting out do you? Keep talking. You really know how to make friends and influence people. If you can't see what a lost cause this is you are a lost cause. There is nothing you can do to undue your past behavior. Nothing is resolved with anything from the people I have mentioned. Like I said, that will be clear to you this weekend in Iowa and at Tinley Park.
Suncoast Herpetological
Lurking in the Shadows
Evan
A small bit of unsolicited advice from someone who has dealt with you more than once and knows you for an honest, ethical, trustworthy, if, somewhat excitable person.
This guy is a clown. He has dug a hole so deep during this situation that he will never recover. You are right in this situation. He is wrong and knows it.
The advice is this. Let it go till Tinley. He can't harm himself much more with his insane rantings. His reputation has taken an irreparable hit here. Your obvious willingness to engage him after every comment could begin to reflect badly on you. That is what this loon is hoping for at this point. Let it go, consumate the transaction and let him live with the shitstorm he created.
Incidentally Anthony, I have on at least one occasion sent animals to Evan prior to receiving payment. Never had one seconds worry or problem.
A small bit of unsolicited advice from someone who has dealt with you more than once and knows you for an honest, ethical, trustworthy, if, somewhat excitable person.
This guy is a clown. He has dug a hole so deep during this situation that he will never recover. You are right in this situation. He is wrong and knows it.
The advice is this. Let it go till Tinley. He can't harm himself much more with his insane rantings. His reputation has taken an irreparable hit here. Your obvious willingness to engage him after every comment could begin to reflect badly on you. That is what this loon is hoping for at this point. Let it go, consumate the transaction and let him live with the shitstorm he created.
Incidentally Anthony, I have on at least one occasion sent animals to Evan prior to receiving payment. Never had one seconds worry or problem.
Wilomn
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ding ding dingSuncoast Herpetological said:
We have a Winnaaaaaa........
BallPython777
Member
Stop the madness!!!
Wow, as entertaining as this has been its time to stop. Continueing to post essentially the same thing over and over really doesnt accomplish anything. I have know both Evan and Anthony for several years. Evan is an honest hard-working herper, that has stood the test of time. He`s a knowledgeable guy and a good honest business man. I`ve known Anthony for 5 years,done several deals with him...nothing but positive things to say about him and his animals. We`ve done fair and equitable trades and the animals I`ve received from him have been perfect. He`s really a nice guy and not the psyco maniac that he`s been made out to be. This is just TWO GOOD guys that have let a situation spiral way out of control. Looking forward to seeing both you knuckleheads at Tinley Park. If you guys can shake hands... I`ll buy you both drinks on Saturday night!!!! Mark Petros BallPython777.com
Wow, as entertaining as this has been its time to stop. Continueing to post essentially the same thing over and over really doesnt accomplish anything. I have know both Evan and Anthony for several years. Evan is an honest hard-working herper, that has stood the test of time. He`s a knowledgeable guy and a good honest business man. I`ve known Anthony for 5 years,done several deals with him...nothing but positive things to say about him and his animals. We`ve done fair and equitable trades and the animals I`ve received from him have been perfect. He`s really a nice guy and not the psyco maniac that he`s been made out to be. This is just TWO GOOD guys that have let a situation spiral way out of control. Looking forward to seeing both you knuckleheads at Tinley Park. If you guys can shake hands... I`ll buy you both drinks on Saturday night!!!! Mark Petros BallPython777.com
evansnakes
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Thanks very much John. It is very sincerely appreciated.
As my prefious conversations with you have born out Mark, you are a calm voice of reason. It will be good to see you again in Chicago.
I now bow to the wishes of those more in tune with the mood of things than myself and walk away from this thread.
As my prefious conversations with you have born out Mark, you are a calm voice of reason. It will be good to see you again in Chicago.
I now bow to the wishes of those more in tune with the mood of things than myself and walk away from this thread.
bamasmith
Crimson Constrictors
Evan,
You are being the bigger man.End with a positive post.To end now is best.I wish I could be at Tinley.I am confident this will work out.
And if the sex of the Pastel you sent me turns out to be a female(which would be fine with me)I will pay you the difference because it is a beauty.I have seen many snakes that have been mis-sexed.I am not concerned at all.Good Luck!!
You are being the bigger man.End with a positive post.To end now is best.I wish I could be at Tinley.I am confident this will work out.
And if the sex of the Pastel you sent me turns out to be a female(which would be fine with me)I will pay you the difference because it is a beauty.I have seen many snakes that have been mis-sexed.I am not concerned at all.Good Luck!!
bamasmith
Crimson Constrictors
Yes,he was.I worked with a nephew of his for several years.I always heard good things about him from many people who were'nt from around here.
Laura Fopiano
B&L Exotix
Evan, I hate to drag this up to the top again, but, you just got back from the show, did you get your snake? Has this issue been resolved?