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Any info on Ankaramy Incorporated?

Adam,

As per the rules, full name is required on every BOI post. You can easily fix it by changing your last initial to the full name in your profile. Otherwise, you run the risk of having all of your posts deleted.
 
oh yea....

"It also doesn't help your cause when you email other breeders asking for tips on breeding Panthers, i.e. introducing females to males. I mean, if you bred and hatched these animals wouldn't you already know that kind of stuff?"
-Matt.

I ask every breeder their advice. Every breeder does things a little differently. I like to learn the best ways of doing things, so I ask all the experts. You can never have enough knowledge.

Ank-Inc.
Adam.
 
What is more out of line, you taking a quote from me and posting it out of context or me pointing out where you're coming up short with these animals? Everything I said was true whereas you twisting my post making it sound like something else is not. Lesson of the day: don't pick a fight you can't win.

In regards to the animals growing slowly you're wrong on that as well. Ankaramies tend to be smaller adults than the other locals, not grow at a slower rate. Animals that grow at a slower rate tend to be not properly cared for and I have a feeling seeing these animals and knowing their age that you just aren't raising them under the ideal conditions. Besides, if I remember what you said about your founding breeders correctly, they were adults when you got them so how would you know their growth rates to adults anyways? At any rate, I guess that is just semantics.

Bottom line is Ivan is right, if these animals turn out to be pure I will be the first person to give you a "high-5" and a big pat on the back. And again the good doctor hits it on the head: you wouldn't have been the first guy to get a misrepresented WC animal as that just happens in the import game. But at this point, I don't see anything to get excited about and certainly nothing to support those rather large britches you are trying to wear. Raise the offspring right and get some shots that are irrefutable, which should be easy as Ankaramies are pretty distinct, post them up and I am sure all the Chameleon enthusiasts will be happy for you!

Matt Jillson
 
Thanks Dennis

OK, thanks for letting me know. I changed it in my profile, but do I need to sign my full name after every post, or can I just type Adam??? lmk

Thanks again

Ank-Inc.
Adam Weglarz.
 
Sorry again....

As I said, I am sorry, and even mentioning that post was out of line. However, I do know that I am right on the ank info. I said that they grow slower, that was a mistake on my part. However, what I did mean to say is that they are smaller as babies, and as you said, they are slightly smaller as adults. Paul @bebeblu, and Vincent will back this up.... It even says it somewhere on Vince's sight, screameleons.com.

As for me not keeping them correctly, you are totally wrong. (no offense) My chams are kept at some of the highest standards in the industry. Not only are there cages cleaned atleast once a day, more if necesary, we also feed them a well rounded diet, and check all our chams for parasites on a bi-weekly basis by ourselves. Maybe we don't have as many chams as you, Matt, but we sure do keep them just as healthy.

Ank-Inc.
Adam Weglarz.
 
Adam,
Nice chams. Don't know a whole lot about them myself. Enough to keep most ssp alive. LOL

As for the pics. Try increasing your ambient light, and do not use flash. A flash upclose drowns out the image.

As for your full name, you can also just put it into your sig, like me and a lot of others.

Ciao,
Rick
 
Adam, thank you for your candidness ...

To the reading public (all 10 of you), Adam and I have exchanged a few emails on the side in the last month or so. As with any reply here in the BOI, some of this is directed at you Adam, and some is for the reader.

With regards to my question about your incorporation status, it is possible (and likely) that you are in violation of the statutes of the State of New York regarding business formation. That said, I doubt anyone cares at this point, and I also doubt you have to worry about needing a corporate entity to function, as you could just as easily exist as "The Ankaramy Company". I also doubt that anyone in the State of NY will actually grab the name (ie file with the Secretary of State in NY before you do). But it is a misrepresentation, which I doubt you intended, and it may be illegal. Also, the state will require that you obtain an EIN, which may also mean that you are in violation of certain Federal Tax Laws right now too (and you don't know what an EIN is, do you). I personally don't care, but I can't guarantee that keeping the "Inc." is the right thing to do either, until you are filed with NY. And yes, it will all cost you money.
Now about your observations as to the habits on Ankaramies. I will state that these are not your personal observations, with regard to having the necessary base of experience to draw on for such conclusions, as your experience with panthers is very new, and exceedingly limited. To make such conclusive statements, you would need extensive experience with both the Ankaramy locale and with other panthers. You have neither. Your breeder animals (all two of them, I think, a male and a female, and the female died?) came from a colony that I founded. I probably had in my possession then more adult Ankaramies than anyone in this country ever assembled in one place. I cannot support you claims that they are in any way different than other panthers except in color. Not more delicate, more shy, etc etc. But you are not the first in this hobby to make conclusive statements about panther chameleons, and sound like an "expert", based on extremely limited observations. I label all of my experience with them as being extremely limited, and would suggest that whoever told you what you wrote here also as being extremely limited in experience with Ankaramies.
I wish you well Adam, and applaud your passion for the hobby. I hope that your animals are true Ankaramies. But sometimes a keyboard and a forum constitute "enough rope". In the words of Doctor Suess, he might say

"I am Adam. Ankaramie Inc I am.
I had a clutch of this Ankaramy cham.
Along the way I lost the dam
I hope they are the true Ankaram"

Not giving up my day job.

Jim Flaherty
The Chameleon Company, LLC
 
Adam,
Since I typed my last post, I see that you have gotten in a post which names a couple of individuals from whom you base your observations. Besides the colony that I assembled, I have also unpacked many more fresh off the plane. Only Kalam at Aline Reptiles has probably handled more Ankaramies than me, and he didn't set up a breeding colony, they were just "passing through" as he imported them. Neither of the people that you mention have been to Madagascar, and neither have I. I have worked closely with Bill Love, who has been there numerous times, to include photographing Ankaramies in the wild, and even he is not going to claim the knowledge base to draw the conclusions that you have. If anything, we learn with each new bit of knowledge that there is more that we don't know. By the way, many websites out there are chock-full of conclusions drawn on a very limited experience base.

Jim Flaherty
The Chameleon Company, LLC
 
rolled off the tougue.....

Hi,

First of all, you are very right. I didn't conclude that about the ankaramies. I was told that from Paul, I read it in a post somewhere a few years back from Ivan, read it on screameleons.com, and a few other places. However, I do have, and have had about 5 ank males all together. They were all smaller tha any animal I have from any other locale. But, you are the expert. So, I won't spread that "rumor" anymore.

About the name. The only reason we made it Ankaramy Incorporated, was basically because it "rolled off the tougue". Then, when we shortened it to Ank-Inc., we really liked it! LOL. But, you are right, and it can be percieved that we did that on purpose to make others think we are incorporated, which we are not. However, we do plan on becoming incorporated in the next few months. However, we are also thinking of changing our name, but that is easier said than done. Many people now know us as ank-inc. So we will have to decide what we are going to do. We were thinking of changing our name to "The Cham Kids", but it sounds too corny, lol. We will either become incoprporated, or change our names in the next few weeks though.

Also, great website!!! Oh yea, one more thing.... your right, its not a good idea to give up your day job, lol.

Adam Weglarz
 
Adam, thanks for the compliment, but let's get one thing straight, I am not the "expert". Maybe the best current guesser at some things, but there are many out there who bring unique knowledge to this hobby. The point that I wanted to make is to not get caught up in trying to be an expert, make conclusive statements based on limited observation, etc. For the record, I have never seen a gargantuan Ankaramy male, and on average the males may be a tad smaller than most (but not all) locales. But I have seen some big ones. Not the least bit shy either. And females that bit just fine too.
"Ank-Inc" does sound catchy. But you may also be setting yourself up to having to maintain a colony of Ankaramies, as who wants to be told by Ank-Inc that "we have no Ank's"? As Ivan pointed out, it will be very easy to get burned there, and may actually take a couple of years to achieve, if then. Any new females that you get will have to be verified, and that can take 10-12 months at the quickest.
And if you call yourself the "cham kids" or whatever it was, then what will it be when you're my age? "Cham geezers"?

Jim Flaherty
The Chameleon Company, LLC
 
Adam,
Apology accepted, no worries. I will tell you though that those animals are behind in their growth regardless or not if you think you are doing everything perfectly. I've had a couple Ankaramies over the years and in fact did pick a male up from Paul that was a tad older than 6 months and was at least 3 to 4 times larger than the animals you have posted. Now granted, they were raised in conditions that Jim set up which makes it almost effortless to turn new hatchlings into gigantic monsters provided Paul continued with Jim's regiment after his moving south but those animals you have are definitely slow starters. I look forward to updated pics down the road when they are larger and have developed more color.

-Matt

...Jim, have you gotten an advanced copy of the December issue of Reptiles Magazine yet? Look forward to seeing the real Chameleon Geezer, Anubis, on the cover and reading your article.
 
Lol

You certainly got a good point there Jim. Chameleon Geezers, lol.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well, I will have to give the name a bit more thought.....
But it is good to see that you think that I will still be "chamming" when I am your age. Nobody else seems to think so, except me, and now you. Ever since I saw a chameleon on "The Jeff Corwin Experience" when I was 11 years old, they have fascinated me. That same week I went out and bought my first cham. That same week I also read over 1000 pages of info in books and on the internet, when I was only 11!!! When I was only 12, I thought that I knew enough to write a book, so I tryed and wrote over 30 pages. Far from a book, but not bad for 12 years old. Since then, I have read EVERYTHING I could find on them, and anything even remotely related to them, like books on reptile parasites, and reptiles in general. I still remember, clear as day, going to my library on the internet (I didn't have a computer back then) and seeing panther chameleons, and hoping that someday I would have ONE!!! I never had any idea that I would have as many as I do now!!!To be honest, reptiles in general I am not that fond of. But chameleons is another story. Over the last 5 years, chameleons have become more than a hobby, but rather an obsession. But, somehow, I feel like I have learned far more in the last few months from you, than I have learned in the whole 5 years!!! There are only 3 people who inspired me in keeping chameleons. Jeff Corwin, Philippe de Vosjoli, and you, Jim Flaherty. Since you sent me those pics of your cages, I have become 1000% more obsessed. Thank you for everything. Somehow I know that I will be keeping chams when I am your age. I can't picture my life without them. Chameleons truly are my future. I never felt this passionate towards anything else in my life. Watching them thrive, watching them hatch, it really.... I just sat here for 10 mins trying to put it in words, and I can't. The best I can do is it makes me happy, lol. Now, I know that panther chams aren't endangered, but when I hatch out a clutch, I can't help but feel that I am helping the population. Maybe one day, I will be getting 900 eggs a month like you. Hopefully thi post will be here in 30 years, for me to read!!! I can't thank you enough Jim, and I am sure there are plenty of other kids and adults that you motivate. Thanks.

Ank-Inc.
Adam Weglarz.
 
To give credit where credit is due, with permission I have borrowed the medical pages about chameleons from Dr. Alfonso's website, www.mythicalchameleons.com, and added them to my own. Ivan is a member of this LLC, and also our herd veterinarian. When you look at the amount of information there, and take my word that he could add many pages more if he had the time, it is impressive. On top of it, he is one of the most accomplished breeders in the hobby, and contributed extensively to the Journal of the Chameleon Information Network while it existed. I am also buying him dinner this Saturday night, as I owe him big-time. He has plenty of that "unique knowledge", not bad for a young punk. Matt has produced some phenomenal Ambilobes too, and is a Member, and has visited here a few times.
As for the article, we know that they put a chameleon on the cover, but won't know for sure which one until it arrives. Anubis is the leading candidate. For the record, I get no "advance copies", although Reptiles Magazine does give me two free copies, and a nominal fee, for the article. I would have done it for free. It was a pleasure working with Bill Love to get it done.
Adam, set aside 1.2 of your Ank's. If the male colors up, I'll make a nice deal with you, although I will trade the male away to get unrelated blood.

Jim Flaherty
The Chameleon Company, LLC
 
MANTIS said:
There are only 3 people who inspired me in keeping chameleons. Jeff Corwin, Philippe de Vosjoli, and you, Jim Flaherty.
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Adam,
I'm a little dissapointed.... I thought I was an inspiration to you LOL.
 
LOL, let me rephrase it.....

LOL Tyler,

Let me rephrase it. What I meant was that Jeff Corwin, Philippe de Vosjoli and Jim Flaherty inspired me the most. You, along with many others also did inspire me alot though, lol. Especially your website. Your site does have the most info on it by far. I especially liked the bug keeping pages. I am trying to breed some superworms right now. :) :) :)

Thanks for all your help too!!!!

Ank-Inc.
Adam.
 
Adam,
Getting back to one of your original concerns, about getting better pictures, I wanted to throw a couple of suggestions at you. First off, I have taken the original picture that you posted, and merely cropped out so much that wasn't needed. Most basic picture working programs have this as a simple function. As you can see though, the picture has lost some clarity. You may be able to overcome this by using the "quality" option on your camera, taking a higher density picture that won't lose detail once cropped, or any "zoom" function that your camera may have, preferrably an "optical" zoom vs. a "digital zoom". My guess is that the manual for your camera probably is like a mini-encyclopedia, and unfortunately, the free software that comes with them is not what it used to be 3-4 years ago, as digital photography is so much more popular now. Adobe used to give away stuff for free that now cost several hundred dollars ... new and improved, of course, but no longer free. My suggestion to you would be to become familiar with whatever picture programs you have, and learn how to crop out the excess. I didn't play with any brightness and contrast, but that is usually a simple function as well. And once you get good at it, you can turn a Tamatave male into an Ankaramy any time !! That's a pure joke, as I have no reason to think you would ever stoop so low, but its easy to do.

Jim Flaherty
The Chameleon Company, LLC
 

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I applaud all the chameleon guys here for working with these wonderful creatures. I know it requires a huge amount of dedication. You should be able to work with all the species to increase the captive species and the breeding knowledge. I am guessing that Madagascar and most places they occur are doomed to annihilation. No need to whack each other for details. :cool:
 
New Pics...

Hey everybody,

Just took some new pics, but for some reason I can't seem to post them on this thread. I posted a link though, where you can see them. They are all named "Ankaramy panther", posted by me Mantis. You can also check out some other chams and such in my collection. Check em out....

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/527

OK, let me know what you guys think...

I will post new ones as I take em over the next few weeks/months.
Thanks for the camera tips Jim. I did crop the pics, and they came out better.

Also, I think I speak for the entire chameleon community when I say thanks. It is alot of dedication, but it is definetly worth it.

Ank-Inc.
Adam Weglarz
(631)813-5966.
 
Adam,
The first two pics are much more promising than what you have posted before but when I look at that third... eeeh, it doesn't help to validate your claim that these guys are in fact 100% pure Ankaramies. They sould be no yellows, blues(aside from the dorsal spine and top of the head in some cases) or greens in an Ankaramy. That third pic shows a little too much of these colors in all the wrong places. Maybe an odd animal from the batch, hopefully, but you better watch that one REAL close.

-Matt
 
hmmm....

I will admit that it does appear to have a slight bit of greenish around the neck region. However, I just checked on them, and they are as pink as flamingoes!!! No other colors, except black. It might have possibly been the way that the light hit him or something. I will get another pic of him asap.

Adam.
 
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