makenna1103
New member
Has anyone dealt with her and is she okay to deal with?
-
Responding to email notices you receive.
**************************************************
In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.
-
IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!! About the Google Adsense ads being displayed
=====================
Posted 08/15/2025
=====================
Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.
Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."
Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....
=====================
Addendum: 01/10/2026
=====================
Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....
Any one deal with Wild Exoctics..Nancy Crouton?
- Thread starter makenna1103
- Start date
ParagonPythons
New member
I am dealing with her right now. I just bought snakes off her, but she said someone else sent the snakes for her or something so I recieved the wrong ones. So far, she has said that she will pay for the shipping of the wrong snakes back and the new snakes to me, but its all be words so far, we'll see. I paid for 7, 1500-2000g WC ball pythons, and received 7 ball pythons with weights of 600, 700, 900, 1000, 1200, 1600, 1700g's. We'll see how the rest of this goes....
Kevin
Kevin
ParagonPythons
New member
She is out of South Carolina, goes by Wild Exotics, bestonlinedeals, and Nancy Crouton
There's a Search button on the upper part of the screen. It's kind of hard to spot b/c of the layout, not on the very top list of links, but on the forum title section just below that.
Anyway, here is the list of search results for Wild Exotics, seems there are already some posts about them:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/search.php?searchid=45105
Anyway, here is the list of search results for Wild Exotics, seems there are already some posts about them:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/search.php?searchid=45105
C
Chris@TSE
Guest
Bearded pets disappeared, and I believe tropical herps or something similar popped up. It was found shortly after that they seemed VERY similar and instantly they disappeared. Then shortly after that Wild Exotics popped up. Same people? Who knows. But they are ALL out of South Carolina. I bet with a little bit of research and IP comparison a definate conclusion could be made..........
reptilebreeder
New member
ParagonPythons said:
Aaah yes, that comes straight out of the scammers handbook, The one where they are brokering or selling other peoples animals, or they have so many employees (yeah right) that they lose track of who's shipping what, to whom.
ParagonPythons
New member
ah crap, well lets see what happens, I emailed her yesterday and left a message on her machine, she has yet to call me or email me back, but I will give her until tonight to get back to me.
makenna1103
New member
At least she gave you a phone number. She refused to send me pictures or even give me a phone number. She would call me whicpering saying she was at work. At that time she only had 12 balls and wanted to get rid of them as they were breeding all the time. Funny how she got more. The ones I was buying were all over 2000 grs. I hope evrything works out for you. she was too shady for me.
QuenteK25
New member
I referred her to this post in my last email. She said she had never heard of the BOI. We'll see if she comes to defend herself, cuz at this point I'm definitely losing interest in making any purchase.
Nancy Crouton/Wild Exotics
I was just informed about this website by a potential customer of mine. As you” all could see his name is Kent Fairbourn he is posting on this website/thread also. I don’t know what is going on here I guess this website is to comment on peoples business and there transactions.
After reading a few threads on a few businesses/people in the BOI. I think it is a little out of hand I don’t know these businesses and/or if you have accurate information to prove for some of the post here. But it looked like there was absolutely no Positive information, correct me if I am wrong, because I only read a few. Anyway I want to answer everyone’s questions here or reply to there comment’s. So I have posted there statements below. If I knew about this website I would have directed all my customers to it do to the fact they were all satisfied. I do have a few references I could dig up and bring here. I just started in the reptile business so this whole thing is new to me I have always kept reptiles but never sold them until a few months ago and so far I have had a good time and enjoy this business very much. Thanks to everyone who has purchased from me and that enjoy herp’s as much as I do.
I have put my replies below:
Kent Fairbourn
“Any more news on this deal or on Nancy Crouton? I've been looking at some of her stuff.”
“I referred her to this post in my last email. She said she had never heard of the BOI. We'll see if she comes to defend herself, cuz at this point I'm definitely losing interest in making any purchase.”
My Reply:
(I guess I am here to defend myself? I just don’t know what I would be defending myself from?????)
Matthew McCormick
“Has anyone dealt with her and is she okay to deal with?”
(You have!!)
“At least she gave you a phone number. She refused to send me pictures or even give me a phone number. She would call me whicpering saying she was at work. At that time she only had 12 balls and wanted to get rid of them as they were breeding all the time. Funny how she got more. The ones I was buying were all over 2000 grs. I hope evrything works out for you. she was too shady for me.”
My Reply:
(Okay I really need to clear this one up because this man really gets on my nerves and if he would pay me triple for my snakes I would still not sell to him. I would advise all Reptile Dealers to avoid any business with him also. Since he did lie on this above post I would not trust him. I gave Matthew my number a few times when he asked, when I gave him my phone number he said he couldn’t get through and I did tell him that my phone number was not getting established until Saturday and wont be in service until then. I would have gave him another phone number to call me on but I did not want to have my personal numbers involved in the business, I like to keep my personal stuff out as most of you could probably understand. After he tried to call me he started emailing frantically saying he could not get in contact with me by phone and he was worried about the deal. So I immediately emailed him back and asked for his phone number which he did not give me in the beginning of the deal and if he was worried he would of done that, This is after we established a shipping date to so the deal was practically done. I called him up and we discussed the situation and he seemed fine with the whole deal again. I figured he was just new at it also but right after the phone call he emailed me and said he is worried about the deal again. At that point I decided to take it on my own hands and just issue him a refund of his E-Check. Which I did offered him in the beginning many times. When I issued him a refund he emailed back happy. Then he wanted to purchase the ball pythons again, but at that point I did not have time for that again.
And just to clear that part where you said I called you whispering and I was at work that is a big load of bull and you know that I never called whispering and saying I was at work where did you come up with that one? I was at work but never was whispering! I gave you a call ASAP when you got worried about the deal. If I was going to be whispering I would have not called you in the first place. You got mad at me when I said I wasn’t going to ship until the E-Check cleared. Which it states in Pay Pal not to ship until the E-Check clears since you can just call back your payment after you receive the order. Now that I see you are lying I assume that was what you were trying to do, scam me out on some ball pythons you realized I wasn’t going to ship until the E-Check cleared so you decided you would be worried about the deal to get your E-Check back or get the balls shipped early.
Anyway I refunded your E-Check right after the phone conversation because you were a little weird for me. Here are two of the emails that I sent him. One is stating my phone number and the other me refunding him. I was never whispering on the phone call. Do to him lying I would not believe one word that comes out of that mans mouth. I do not know him but I advise everyone just stay clear. He might try to scam you out of some Reptiles and/or money. Also the post from him above seems very rushed and as if he was lying.)
They are being shipped from Anderson sc or from work by ups overnight on
Tuesday. 8883212379 or my cell , I will give you that when I get my
phone on Saturday ,also I am always on this computer at work so you
can email me ,I will put your # on the ups slip
Thanks
Matthew,
I just refunded your e-check please check your email you should have
something from paypal. I understand your concern but I thought our
conversation on the phone helped to ease your concerns. Regardless I
had no problem with refunding your money in fact I even offered. Like I
said you have to start somewhere and the fact that you haven't
found any negative info on the company or me is a good statement.
I know I'm honest and that is all that is important to me.
I would like to thank you for your consideration and wish you well.
Nancy
Kevin O'Connor
I am dealing with her right now. I just bought snakes off her, but she said someone else sent the snakes for her or something so I recieved the wrong ones. So far, she has said that she will pay for the shipping of the wrong snakes back and the new snakes to me, but its all be words so far, we'll see. I paid for 7, 1500-2000g WC ball pythons, and received 7 ball pythons with weights of 600, 700, 900, 1000, 1200, 1600, 1700g's. We'll see how the rest of this goes....
Kevin
She is out of South Carolina, goes by Wild Exotics, bestonlinedeals, and Nancy Crouton
ParagonPythons
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Age: 17
Posts: 18
Name : Kevin O'Connor
Rep Power: 0
My Reply:
(Well first I would like to mention me and Kevin talked on the phone about this immediately when it occurred. We discussed this on a Saturday which is my day off but it is too my best interest to make all my customers happy with any and all deals. I gave him a call and discussed the situation, obviously he received the wrong order. Since I was missing snakes out of the wrong cages. So that brings me back to the fact I did not want to ship on Friday for Saturday delivery due to the fact that I was not there to pack the box up my self and would have to call my teenager to do it for me. I also did not want to ship for the safety of the snakes, they could get lost over the long weekend and most likely die. I would have to pay a whole load of money out of my pocket for shipping Friday for Saturday which many herpers could relate to! I shipped any way even though I did inform him of the shipment, could get lost and I would have someone else packing it up for me. He did not care and I called up my teenager and he packed the box for me he is a very good helper and expert at reptiles the only problem was he put the wrong snakes in the bag. He did not know what to ship, even though I told him he still didn’t know what I sold. Anyway when I got on the phone with him and we discussed the situation I immediately told him he would get the correct snakes back. We will make the deal right. I also told him that he sounds like a teenager, since he did make a comment on teenagers. In curiosity I asked him his age he told me he was 24 years old but I have pasted the User Id thing above and it states he is only 17 which brings me to the fact again two people lying in just one thread on the BOI. Not saying everyone here is lying because I do understand this is a good place to find peoples references and find out information on them and there business. But I do think I few people here get carried away with them self’s and take this a little to seriously almost like they have too much time on there hands.)
Top Shelf Exotic’s
Bearded pets disappeared, and I believe tropical herps or something similar popped up. It was found shortly after that they seemed VERY similar and instantly they disappeared. Then shortly after that Wild Exotics popped up. Same people? Who knows. But they are ALL out of South Carolina. I bet with a little bit of research and IP comparison a definate conclusion could be made..........
My Reply:
(Who are you? I don’t recall even talking to you. I was just going over a few of your post here. It seems as if you bud your nose in everyone’s business not even knowing them, kind of like you have to much time on your hands. Not to be rude just stating an opinion. First of who the hell is tropical herps or something similar and bearded pets disappeared? You say they come out of the same state as me well let me give you some advice top shelf, take out a map and look at the states I think leap frog sells one of those globes you can purchase. I just got one for my 6 year old son one, you take the pencil and go over the state then it will give you the population. There are many people living here not just me. I see people every day so I would know. LOL.
I just tried to find out who you were by looking you up on Kingsnake and on your ball python ad it says ACT QUICKLY! Our Remaining 04 Ball Python Morphs, As Requested! Then it states inside your ad We've had many people ask us to re-list the remaining specimens from our recent holiday sale. We had planned on simply keeping whatever did not sell, here is your last chance! I am not doubting you so don’t take it in that way, and man I have to admit you are good at HTML.
I am just curious, can I see those emails of people asking you to re-list your morphs? How does that work? I have never heard of people asking you to re-list items wouldn’t they just assume they are sold? Or just outright purchase them from you? Instead of asking you to re post your ad. I just find it a little weird not saying you are some type of scammer but never heard of that before. Please don’t take this as a threat or anything just curious! )
Greg holland
Kevin,
Where are they out of?
I've heard rumor that they used to be called something else but changed their name because of VERY bad press.
My Reply:
(Where did you hear this from. I can assure you it is not true I do not feel comfortable posting my address on a public website like this with all the psyches out there. But if you would like email me directly at [email protected] and I would be happy to email you my address. Also my phone number is available to any one who would like to call me. This is my only name Wild Exotic’s, is the business name and my name is Nancy Crouton this is my first business as I have stated that many times. Please email me with any questions you might have and I will email you back ASAP.)
John Kellar
Aaah yes, that comes straight out of the scammers handbook, The one where they are brokering or selling other peoples animals, or they have so many employees (yeah right) that they lose track of who's shipping what, to whom.
My Reply:
(My teenager packed the box and you should not bud your nose into business you have know Idea what is going. You have never dealt with me nor have you ever spoken to me, so don’t make any comments until you have the facts. And just to let you know you have no right calling me a Scammer. It seems on your fauna Id thing you have made 261 posts and you have only been here for a year! Wow talk about time! What are you some type of fauna hero or something?? obviously you don’t know what’s going on in 90% of your post you just bud in for some reason! No hard feeling's, but what is the deal with you?? You don’t even know me so why the comments? And on all the other post you have done?? )
reptilebreeder
Contributing Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 261
Name : John Kellar
Rep Power: 21
Trader Rating: (0)
( I hope this clears it all up. If you have any questions or would like to get my address or phone number please contact me through email at [email protected] and I will be happy to email you back. I do not have the time nor energy to keep up posting on this BOI so please refer to me with any questions or comments.
Also if some computer expert like Top Shelf Exotic’s could post this reply on any threads mentioning my name (since I am not real good at computers myself!) I would really appreciate it. As I do not want to lose any business do to miss information.
I appreciate everyone’s time and corporation and I hope no one has taken this hard as I am just trying to get my message across just like you are trying to get yours across.
Thanks Again,
Nancy Crouton
Wild Exotic’s )
I was just informed about this website by a potential customer of mine. As you” all could see his name is Kent Fairbourn he is posting on this website/thread also. I don’t know what is going on here I guess this website is to comment on peoples business and there transactions.
After reading a few threads on a few businesses/people in the BOI. I think it is a little out of hand I don’t know these businesses and/or if you have accurate information to prove for some of the post here. But it looked like there was absolutely no Positive information, correct me if I am wrong, because I only read a few. Anyway I want to answer everyone’s questions here or reply to there comment’s. So I have posted there statements below. If I knew about this website I would have directed all my customers to it do to the fact they were all satisfied. I do have a few references I could dig up and bring here. I just started in the reptile business so this whole thing is new to me I have always kept reptiles but never sold them until a few months ago and so far I have had a good time and enjoy this business very much. Thanks to everyone who has purchased from me and that enjoy herp’s as much as I do.
I have put my replies below:
Kent Fairbourn
“Any more news on this deal or on Nancy Crouton? I've been looking at some of her stuff.”
“I referred her to this post in my last email. She said she had never heard of the BOI. We'll see if she comes to defend herself, cuz at this point I'm definitely losing interest in making any purchase.”
My Reply:
(I guess I am here to defend myself? I just don’t know what I would be defending myself from?????)
Matthew McCormick
“Has anyone dealt with her and is she okay to deal with?”
(You have!!)
“At least she gave you a phone number. She refused to send me pictures or even give me a phone number. She would call me whicpering saying she was at work. At that time she only had 12 balls and wanted to get rid of them as they were breeding all the time. Funny how she got more. The ones I was buying were all over 2000 grs. I hope evrything works out for you. she was too shady for me.”
My Reply:
(Okay I really need to clear this one up because this man really gets on my nerves and if he would pay me triple for my snakes I would still not sell to him. I would advise all Reptile Dealers to avoid any business with him also. Since he did lie on this above post I would not trust him. I gave Matthew my number a few times when he asked, when I gave him my phone number he said he couldn’t get through and I did tell him that my phone number was not getting established until Saturday and wont be in service until then. I would have gave him another phone number to call me on but I did not want to have my personal numbers involved in the business, I like to keep my personal stuff out as most of you could probably understand. After he tried to call me he started emailing frantically saying he could not get in contact with me by phone and he was worried about the deal. So I immediately emailed him back and asked for his phone number which he did not give me in the beginning of the deal and if he was worried he would of done that, This is after we established a shipping date to so the deal was practically done. I called him up and we discussed the situation and he seemed fine with the whole deal again. I figured he was just new at it also but right after the phone call he emailed me and said he is worried about the deal again. At that point I decided to take it on my own hands and just issue him a refund of his E-Check. Which I did offered him in the beginning many times. When I issued him a refund he emailed back happy. Then he wanted to purchase the ball pythons again, but at that point I did not have time for that again.
And just to clear that part where you said I called you whispering and I was at work that is a big load of bull and you know that I never called whispering and saying I was at work where did you come up with that one? I was at work but never was whispering! I gave you a call ASAP when you got worried about the deal. If I was going to be whispering I would have not called you in the first place. You got mad at me when I said I wasn’t going to ship until the E-Check cleared. Which it states in Pay Pal not to ship until the E-Check clears since you can just call back your payment after you receive the order. Now that I see you are lying I assume that was what you were trying to do, scam me out on some ball pythons you realized I wasn’t going to ship until the E-Check cleared so you decided you would be worried about the deal to get your E-Check back or get the balls shipped early.
Anyway I refunded your E-Check right after the phone conversation because you were a little weird for me. Here are two of the emails that I sent him. One is stating my phone number and the other me refunding him. I was never whispering on the phone call. Do to him lying I would not believe one word that comes out of that mans mouth. I do not know him but I advise everyone just stay clear. He might try to scam you out of some Reptiles and/or money. Also the post from him above seems very rushed and as if he was lying.)
They are being shipped from Anderson sc or from work by ups overnight on
Tuesday. 8883212379 or my cell , I will give you that when I get my
phone on Saturday ,also I am always on this computer at work so you
can email me ,I will put your # on the ups slip
Thanks
Matthew,
I just refunded your e-check please check your email you should have
something from paypal. I understand your concern but I thought our
conversation on the phone helped to ease your concerns. Regardless I
had no problem with refunding your money in fact I even offered. Like I
said you have to start somewhere and the fact that you haven't
found any negative info on the company or me is a good statement.
I know I'm honest and that is all that is important to me.
I would like to thank you for your consideration and wish you well.
Nancy
Kevin O'Connor
I am dealing with her right now. I just bought snakes off her, but she said someone else sent the snakes for her or something so I recieved the wrong ones. So far, she has said that she will pay for the shipping of the wrong snakes back and the new snakes to me, but its all be words so far, we'll see. I paid for 7, 1500-2000g WC ball pythons, and received 7 ball pythons with weights of 600, 700, 900, 1000, 1200, 1600, 1700g's. We'll see how the rest of this goes....
Kevin
She is out of South Carolina, goes by Wild Exotics, bestonlinedeals, and Nancy Crouton
ParagonPythons
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Age: 17
Posts: 18
Name : Kevin O'Connor
Rep Power: 0
My Reply:
(Well first I would like to mention me and Kevin talked on the phone about this immediately when it occurred. We discussed this on a Saturday which is my day off but it is too my best interest to make all my customers happy with any and all deals. I gave him a call and discussed the situation, obviously he received the wrong order. Since I was missing snakes out of the wrong cages. So that brings me back to the fact I did not want to ship on Friday for Saturday delivery due to the fact that I was not there to pack the box up my self and would have to call my teenager to do it for me. I also did not want to ship for the safety of the snakes, they could get lost over the long weekend and most likely die. I would have to pay a whole load of money out of my pocket for shipping Friday for Saturday which many herpers could relate to! I shipped any way even though I did inform him of the shipment, could get lost and I would have someone else packing it up for me. He did not care and I called up my teenager and he packed the box for me he is a very good helper and expert at reptiles the only problem was he put the wrong snakes in the bag. He did not know what to ship, even though I told him he still didn’t know what I sold. Anyway when I got on the phone with him and we discussed the situation I immediately told him he would get the correct snakes back. We will make the deal right. I also told him that he sounds like a teenager, since he did make a comment on teenagers. In curiosity I asked him his age he told me he was 24 years old but I have pasted the User Id thing above and it states he is only 17 which brings me to the fact again two people lying in just one thread on the BOI. Not saying everyone here is lying because I do understand this is a good place to find peoples references and find out information on them and there business. But I do think I few people here get carried away with them self’s and take this a little to seriously almost like they have too much time on there hands.)
Top Shelf Exotic’s
Bearded pets disappeared, and I believe tropical herps or something similar popped up. It was found shortly after that they seemed VERY similar and instantly they disappeared. Then shortly after that Wild Exotics popped up. Same people? Who knows. But they are ALL out of South Carolina. I bet with a little bit of research and IP comparison a definate conclusion could be made..........
My Reply:
(Who are you? I don’t recall even talking to you. I was just going over a few of your post here. It seems as if you bud your nose in everyone’s business not even knowing them, kind of like you have to much time on your hands. Not to be rude just stating an opinion. First of who the hell is tropical herps or something similar and bearded pets disappeared? You say they come out of the same state as me well let me give you some advice top shelf, take out a map and look at the states I think leap frog sells one of those globes you can purchase. I just got one for my 6 year old son one, you take the pencil and go over the state then it will give you the population. There are many people living here not just me. I see people every day so I would know. LOL.
I just tried to find out who you were by looking you up on Kingsnake and on your ball python ad it says ACT QUICKLY! Our Remaining 04 Ball Python Morphs, As Requested! Then it states inside your ad We've had many people ask us to re-list the remaining specimens from our recent holiday sale. We had planned on simply keeping whatever did not sell, here is your last chance! I am not doubting you so don’t take it in that way, and man I have to admit you are good at HTML.
I am just curious, can I see those emails of people asking you to re-list your morphs? How does that work? I have never heard of people asking you to re-list items wouldn’t they just assume they are sold? Or just outright purchase them from you? Instead of asking you to re post your ad. I just find it a little weird not saying you are some type of scammer but never heard of that before. Please don’t take this as a threat or anything just curious! )
Greg holland
Kevin,
Where are they out of?
I've heard rumor that they used to be called something else but changed their name because of VERY bad press.
My Reply:
(Where did you hear this from. I can assure you it is not true I do not feel comfortable posting my address on a public website like this with all the psyches out there. But if you would like email me directly at [email protected] and I would be happy to email you my address. Also my phone number is available to any one who would like to call me. This is my only name Wild Exotic’s, is the business name and my name is Nancy Crouton this is my first business as I have stated that many times. Please email me with any questions you might have and I will email you back ASAP.)
John Kellar
Aaah yes, that comes straight out of the scammers handbook, The one where they are brokering or selling other peoples animals, or they have so many employees (yeah right) that they lose track of who's shipping what, to whom.
My Reply:
(My teenager packed the box and you should not bud your nose into business you have know Idea what is going. You have never dealt with me nor have you ever spoken to me, so don’t make any comments until you have the facts. And just to let you know you have no right calling me a Scammer. It seems on your fauna Id thing you have made 261 posts and you have only been here for a year! Wow talk about time! What are you some type of fauna hero or something?? obviously you don’t know what’s going on in 90% of your post you just bud in for some reason! No hard feeling's, but what is the deal with you?? You don’t even know me so why the comments? And on all the other post you have done?? )
reptilebreeder
Contributing Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 261
Name : John Kellar
Rep Power: 21
Trader Rating: (0)
( I hope this clears it all up. If you have any questions or would like to get my address or phone number please contact me through email at [email protected] and I will be happy to email you back. I do not have the time nor energy to keep up posting on this BOI so please refer to me with any questions or comments.
Also if some computer expert like Top Shelf Exotic’s could post this reply on any threads mentioning my name (since I am not real good at computers myself!) I would really appreciate it. As I do not want to lose any business do to miss information.
I appreciate everyone’s time and corporation and I hope no one has taken this hard as I am just trying to get my message across just like you are trying to get yours across.
Thanks Again,
Nancy Crouton
Wild Exotic’s )
gmherps
New member
Well since you're here to defend yourself it just seemed fishy that Wild Exotics (you) popped up as soon as Bearded Pets dissapearred.
Go to the upper section of the BOI. There is a function called Search Forum, click it and type Bearded+Pets, and when you have time to read them all, you'll see for the quick labeling.
If it's not you, then you have nothing worry about.
C
Chris@TSE
Guest
WOW. Talk about hostility.
Did I say I knew you? Absolutely not. And if you dont know me, or the company I represent, then you are obvious stuck somewhere under a rock!
I stated opinions and suggestions on a situation here to be of assistance. I never claimed to know anything for certain and even suggested people do thier own digging to verify these similarities.
Seeing such hostility is a good indicator of someone having something to hide, but I will tell you one thing.... You can rest assured, even if you are not associated with the previous scammers who have been outed here on the BOI, you will now lose numerous potential customers posting in this manner. You could have simply came, stated that our observations were wrong, told people who you were, and listed contact information for those interested in contacting your "company"
Instead you went ballistic and gave people more of a reason to be cautious.....
I suggest you tone it down a notch there buddy, we're all friends here until given a reason to act otherwise. A few more posts like that and I'm certain youll do nothing but create enemies. Something I'm sure you do not want, especially trying to establish yourself as a business.
And as for you making asumptions about my company, I would stick to talking about things you know. Our reputation speaks for itself, and so do our customers.
People have a right to be cautious. People have a right to ask questions. People have a right to publicly inquire about a business or individuals selling products. They also have a right to state thier opinions and observations. If you do not like it I suggest you find yourself another line of work..... Perhaps something that does not directly deal with customer service.
I simply stated an observation, an observation that had been brought up long before I spoke up about it. In fact it was brought to my attention by a few of our customers.
Get off your high horse, you certainly have alot of nerve to come here acting the way you have chosen to do. You're only going to attract heat, not business. Calm it down a notch before replying next time, people want info. They have a right to know who they are purchasing from correct? Thought so.
Did I say I knew you? Absolutely not. And if you dont know me, or the company I represent, then you are obvious stuck somewhere under a rock!
I stated opinions and suggestions on a situation here to be of assistance. I never claimed to know anything for certain and even suggested people do thier own digging to verify these similarities.
Seeing such hostility is a good indicator of someone having something to hide, but I will tell you one thing.... You can rest assured, even if you are not associated with the previous scammers who have been outed here on the BOI, you will now lose numerous potential customers posting in this manner. You could have simply came, stated that our observations were wrong, told people who you were, and listed contact information for those interested in contacting your "company"
Instead you went ballistic and gave people more of a reason to be cautious.....
I suggest you tone it down a notch there buddy, we're all friends here until given a reason to act otherwise. A few more posts like that and I'm certain youll do nothing but create enemies. Something I'm sure you do not want, especially trying to establish yourself as a business.
And as for you making asumptions about my company, I would stick to talking about things you know. Our reputation speaks for itself, and so do our customers.
People have a right to be cautious. People have a right to ask questions. People have a right to publicly inquire about a business or individuals selling products. They also have a right to state thier opinions and observations. If you do not like it I suggest you find yourself another line of work..... Perhaps something that does not directly deal with customer service.
I simply stated an observation, an observation that had been brought up long before I spoke up about it. In fact it was brought to my attention by a few of our customers.
Get off your high horse, you certainly have alot of nerve to come here acting the way you have chosen to do. You're only going to attract heat, not business. Calm it down a notch before replying next time, people want info. They have a right to know who they are purchasing from correct? Thought so.
C
Chris@TSE
Guest
I would be happy to do this for you, but I think you may want to reconsider. You wont lose business from imsinformation but you may lose alot of business due to the very hostile and unprofesional responses you just gave numerous of the well standing members here. I'll give you a chance to better phrase a general response to this thread and I would be happy to post that in any threads you are currently involved in. No one is "out to get you"
They just apparently have had issues contacting you and since there has been some problems with people in your general area anyone doing the slightest bit of homework can run accross information that would put you near them. I would simply tell these people what they want to know, instead of chewing them new.... well, you know!
ParagonPythons
New member
Ok, I went through this peice by peice and I have labled it as such below as TRUE or FALSE. Anything I added is bold.
I dont know where she is comming up with some of this stuff, but the stuff I labeled as FALSE are simply untrue. I have sources to back it up if any1 wants to take this further, sources proving my worth, but if it doesnt have to go that far and I personally dont want to for her sake. Somehow I dont think I will get the correct snakes back, I think she will use this post as her defense like "you were bashing me on the internet, why should I help you" or something. Nancy, this is to you, I am not bashing you, I simply want the correct snakes. I dont want any hard feelings, but now that you've said something negative about me (saying that I lied, and didnt care about the snakes well being), I am just defending myself. I know you have been getting my phone messages and emails, PLEASE in some way shape or form contact me. I'd post my number on here, but I dont think that'd be a good idea. [email protected] , reply to my emails please, we need to talk.
Thanks,
Kevin
WildExotics said:
I dont know where she is comming up with some of this stuff, but the stuff I labeled as FALSE are simply untrue. I have sources to back it up if any1 wants to take this further, sources proving my worth, but if it doesnt have to go that far and I personally dont want to for her sake. Somehow I dont think I will get the correct snakes back, I think she will use this post as her defense like "you were bashing me on the internet, why should I help you" or something. Nancy, this is to you, I am not bashing you, I simply want the correct snakes. I dont want any hard feelings, but now that you've said something negative about me (saying that I lied, and didnt care about the snakes well being), I am just defending myself. I know you have been getting my phone messages and emails, PLEASE in some way shape or form contact me. I'd post my number on here, but I dont think that'd be a good idea. [email protected] , reply to my emails please, we need to talk.
Thanks,
Kevin
gmherps
New member
Can you say BEARDED PETS!!!!
This has stank written all over it.
Nancy Crouton?
Come on!
Come clean you sly little devil.
Now, and only now, you must defend yourself, and you brought this all on YOURSELF!!!!
This has stank written all over it.
Nancy Crouton?
Come on!
Come clean you sly little devil.
Now, and only now, you must defend yourself, and you brought this all on YOURSELF!!!!
reptilebreeder
New member
WildExotics said:
I don't have to know you. After being into herps for close to 30 years, and buying and selling over the internet for at least 10 years, I know enough to know that
is 99.9% of the time either;
1. An official broker, or someone who is trying to sell animals that someone else is selling, so they buy them and "resell" them to a third party.
2. actual scammer
3. Someone who has poor business practices.
Okay, so maybe I was wrong to assume it was #2, it was apparently at least #3. Oh well, given that you apparently did meet at least one of the catagories, and your overly defensive hostile reply, I imagine your image is well on it's own way.
As for your other "shot", considering the herp world is my most serious endeavor, less than one post a day average, including the regular forums is not a whole lot. So if that makes me a hero
So I spend time here; to buy and sell herps, to learn more about the animals I love especially in areas where I have less experience, to help keep people from getting ripped off, to help people if they have any problems with husbandry, and especially to point out unethical, bad moral, and illegal activities that have a detrimental effect on this hobby. I guess that's the deal with me.