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Info Arizona Exotics --- Payson, Az.

Tom is a hero for looking out for the Collared even though it died, and for the other critters, as well as alerting prospective purchasers to what they might find in this pet shop and exactly what kind of behavior they are supporting if they spend dollars at Arizona Exotics.

I was thinking about this thread yesterday, along with the oft-repeated phrase that what truly shows what a person or company is about is not how they handle the good times, but how they handle mistakes and negative issues.

In some alternate universe Tom goes in, finds the poor critter, the lack of water, the other deficits and posts about it exactly as he did here.
But in this alternate universe, Shannon sees the post, and thanks Tom. Shannon fires everyone who was lounging around the cash register that day, and sends Tom a $1,000 gift certificate and asks him to make three or four surprise visits over the course of this year and post what he finds, to make sure the changes Shannon implements to make sure the critters are safe and well taken care of are being carried out.

Sadly, we are in our own universe, and Shannon has merely stooped to name calling and defended the indefensible conditions at this pet shop.

Great post Lucille! I started to dream with you for a second... It didn't go that route, I have done everything I can within the Law. What was really sad, was five places that I called for assistance, already knew about him and the situation!
 
Great post Lucille! I started to dream with you for a second... It didn't go that route, I have done everything I can within the Law. What was really sad, was five places that I called for assistance, already knew about him and the situation!

Like I said about repeat offenders: animals are dying in between citations :(
 
I know I said I was done here but I jus can't believe ANYONE has jumped on here defending these ppl and attacking Tom. If there weren't ppl with the kind of heart Tom has this problem is bad enough. If ppl didn't say anything it would not change. These animals can't make a phone call so those of us that truly love these guys will lend our voice to them. I thank God for the few ppl like Tom and I don't care what you say to or about ppl that speak up for the animals those of us that have real love for them will always speak louder and keep striving to make a better life for these creatures. "But its no biggie they don't see water in the desert" WOW did I read that right. One of the main objectives in this hobby should be to make life in captivity a better one than in the wild. In case ya'll might not know life in the wild is pretty rough and just because an animal CAN go without for a period of time don't mean it should or even wants to! And in that collards situation that's unacceptable. If he was too far gone then why pro long his misery! He should hav been humanely put down the second that was realized.
 
I know I said I was done here but I jus can't believe ANYONE has jumped on here defending these ppl and attacking Tom. If there weren't ppl with the kind of heart Tom has this problem is bad enough. If ppl didn't say anything it would not change. These animals can't make a phone call so those of us that truly love these guys will lend our voice to them. I thank God for the few ppl like Tom and I don't care what you say to or about ppl that speak up for the animals those of us that have real love for them will always speak louder and keep striving to make a better life for these creatures. "But its no biggie they don't see water in the desert" WOW did I read that right. One of the main objectives in this hobby should be to make life in captivity a better one than in the wild. In case ya'll might not know life in the wild is pretty rough and just because an animal CAN go without for a period of time don't mean it should or even wants to! And in that collards situation that's unacceptable. If he was too far gone then why pro long his misery! He should hav been humanely put down the second that was realized.

Atta boy Brandon! The process is slow! My jaw hurts from talking, and my ear hurts from the earpiece to make this happen!
 
All that I do know is all 6'2" and 200 pounds of 'timid' ol' me is going to stop through that door within the next 30 days... and we will take it as it plays out this time! I held off on calling my Phoenix Police Department contact. I hope that was a smart decision in the end, Danielle, by me. Don't let me down!

And Jeremy Jonson, you're absolutely the dumbest Newb I've ever seen post... please refrain from posting on stuff like this, and owning reptiles based on your embarrassing comments... I'm wondering, didn't your parents teach you when grown folks are talking, to shut up... Let's see if I can get rid of him with this new spray I got!
You're 6'2", 200 pounds, have been keeping reptiles for "20" years, and still need to grow up if all you can do to back yourself up is make worthless posts where all you do is call me a noob. You haven't said/done anything to backup/support your original claim. Behind your facade you seem to be nothing but a troll.
Come back when you're wearing your big boy pants.
So I take it you admire and approve of the conditions the pictured lizard was in, the reported empty water dishes, etc.?
Are you speaking to his expectations that critters have food and water, and that care to the petshop critters should come prior to employees allegedly lounging around the cash register?
Reported? Allegedly?
You would think that someone who has been on this website for ten years would understand that you need proof. Based off of the information that Tom has provided the public with, there allegedly were over 30 animals he could have taken pictures of. And his phone can easily take over 100 pictures. So that one picture he posted means nothing to me.
Do it for the Collared. Do it for all the critters.
If you and Tom think that the collard is so important, why did Tom not talk to the employees while he was there. There is no excuse for not saying anything if you felt that way towards the Collard.
I promise I just tried a civil approach and got my life threatened... Fwiw; I laughed at it, and Shannon the owner is no good! I have zeroed in on his antics! His shop is closing asap....
Proof, or it didn't happen.
I just WISH I live closer to AZ...
To do what? Watch the "poor" animal in the store, complain about it online pretending that 6'2", 200 pounds of you is going to go to the store and do something in an act of redemption, but actually only call the store?
I'm disgusted. You took this poor critter in and it lay in filth with no food or water. It would have take a few minutes to clean the cage and put food and water in.
If you are going to take in an animal, do right by it. The way you treat it reflects on you.
Just because a critter is going to die is not a reason to let it spend its last days dried out, filthy, hungry.
You're disgusted? I'm disgusted. Tom saw something that he didn't like so instead talking to someone who worked at the store about it(according to him none of them were busy, so he could have easily spoken to one of them), he bashed the store online.
I think you were fair and gave them the time to come in and explain to the community what was going on.
And they did, what's your point?
Tom is a hero for looking out for the Collared even though it died, and for the other critters, as well as alerting prospective purchasers to what they might find in this pet shop and exactly what kind of behavior they are supporting if they spend dollars at Arizona Exotics.
:rofl:
For or looking out for the Collared? More like looking at the Collared! The only thing that he actually has done for the Collared was take a picture of it. How exactly has he helped the other critters? He has only said that they weren't taken care of properly but didn't give any proof.

I was thinking about this thread yesterday, along with the oft-repeated phrase that what truly shows what a person or company is about is not how they handle the good times, but how they handle mistakes and negative issues.

In some alternate universe Tom goes in, finds the poor critter, the lack of water, the other deficits and posts about it exactly as he did here.
But in this alternate universe, Shannon sees the post, and thanks Tom. Shannon fires everyone who was lounging around the cash register that day, and sends Tom a $1,000 gift certificate and asks him to make three or four surprise visits over the course of this year and post what he finds, to make sure the changes Shannon implements to make sure the critters are safe and well taken care of are being carried out.

Sadly, we are in our own universe, and Shannon has merely stooped to name calling and defended the indefensible conditions at this pet shop.
Shannon should thank Tom for bashing the store instead of just telling the store about what he think should change? Wow.
Shannon should give Tom a $1000 gift card for trying to scare away his customers? Wow.
Shannon should ask him to make several visits to the store although he still has not made the one visit that he said he would make? Wow.
Shannon has merely stooped to name calling and defending the indefensible conditions at the shop although their is no proof that Shannon actually called Tom any names and their is proof that Tom was definitely the person who started the naming calling? WOW
 
How many accounts do you have in here Shannon Long? I mean, LIZADMAN, I mean... Xxmonitorlizardxx... I mean Jeremy Johansen?

Are all the Green Tree Pythons dead yet too? What about that Chuckwalla that is next to go up there?

Are you trying to sell the Az Native Wildlife as well? I have heard you have attempted to sell them to people now...

It's rather sad, a lot of people have heard of this place and the antics... BUT NOBODY DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT! I'm here now! Took me a second... But!

Just sit back and wait Shannon. I have a Hornets nest of rescue effort coming for those animals... And, I think a set of cuffs for ya three! :)

It just sucks having to be patient! But, after 37yrs on this planet, I'm getting good my friend!
 
Hornets nest
You are awesome. And at times, fearsome. But that is a good thing, here, for the benefit of these little critters that cannot speak for themselves.
I am doing my best to help from afar, have sent links to this thread to law enforcement, the media, etc. in the area.
 
You are awesome. And at times, fearsome. But that is a good thing, here, for the benefit of these little critters that cannot speak for themselves.
I am doing my best to help from afar, have sent links to this thread to law enforcement, the media, etc. in the area.

Atta girl! I tip toed into this... Didn't think it would get this bad, but, I'm good for the longhaul! You rock Lucille!
 
Shame.....

Pet Store(s) Should know better. Especially with Basic husbandry of a New Comer Hobbyist or the most experienced one should be well aware of a Public Figure/Business selling any animals in this condition.

ALWAYS LOOK OUT FOR:

Hip Bones
Tail Girth
And Rear Thigh Fatness

In Lizards. Those are your Basic Highlighted Limbs to alert you in anyway Shape or Form of Malnutrition or Bad Health.
 
Jeremy Johanson, aka: "LizadMan"
Jeremy Johnson, aka: "xxmonitorlizardxx"
your aliases are as transparent as a window. Plus you gave yourself away with the "noob" comment.

And Jeremy Jonson, you're absolutely the dumbest Newb I've ever seen post... please refrain from posting on stuff like this, and owning reptiles based on your embarrassing comments...
(a reply to xxmonitorlizardxx)

You're 6'2", 200 pounds, have been keeping reptiles for "20" years, and still need to grow up if all you can do to back yourself up is make worthless posts where all you do is call me a noob.

Behind your facade you seem to be nothing but a troll.

so who is the troll?

Time for the mods to run an IP location check
 
How many accounts do you have in here Shannon Long? I mean, LIZADMAN, I mean... Xxmonitorlizardxx... I mean Jeremy Johansen?

Sorry, but evidence that I see does not indicate support for your claim. Shannon Long's IP addresses consistently point to Phoenix, AZ. Both Jeremy Johnson's and Jeremy Johanson's IP addresses consistently point to Newark, NJ, yet both Jeremys do not share any common IP addresses at all between them indicating evidence that they are both the same person.

Anything is possible, of course, but unless you are stating only your OPINION, HARD evidence is normally preferable to suspicion, supposition, and assumptions.

So, do you have any evidence you would like to share that I am not privy to?
 

So, do you have any evidence you would like to share that I am not privy to?
Possibly not as damning as you'd like, but the following post was in reply to a post that Tom clearly directed at xxmonitorlizardxx:
You're 6'2", 200 pounds, have been keeping reptiles for "20" years, and still need to grow up if all you can do to back yourself up is make worthless posts where all you do is call me a noob. You haven't said/done anything to backup/support your original claim. Behind your facade you seem to be nothing but a troll.
Come back when you're wearing your big boy pants.
 
Sorry, but evidence that I see does not indicate support for your claim. Shannon Long's IP addresses consistently point to Phoenix, AZ. Both Jeremy Johnson's and Jeremy Johanson's IP addresses consistently point to Newark, NJ, yet both Jeremys do not share any common IP addresses at all between them indicating evidence that they are both the same person.

Anything is possible, of course, but unless you are stating only your OPINION, HARD evidence is normally preferable to suspicion, supposition, and assumptions.

So, do you have any evidence you would like to share that I am not privy to?

No sir... Thank you Rich, it was either Shannon posting like that, or a friend... Or it's legit! Thank your for chiming in for me sir!
 
Jeremy Johanson, aka: "LizadMan"
Jeremy Johnson, aka: "xxmonitorlizardxx"

Both Jeremy Johnson's and Jeremy Johanson's IP addresses consistently point to Newark, NJ, yet both Jeremys do not share any common IP addresses at all between them indicating evidence that they are both the same person.



Interesting enough LizadMan's email address is "xxmonitorlizardxx"

Exactly the same as the user name on the other account.

one could be work IP address and the other home? Could be some kid staying at dad's house then at mom's?
they have the exact same bad attitude and writing style.
Probably safe to assume that they are at the very best not to be taken seriously and at worst the same person. Either way, they are now on the "do not sell to " list.
 
Tom, I see nothing pointing the accounts to Long's account either.

However you are right about the other two users. Let me explain.


User name xxmonitorlizardxx
Profile Name Jeremy Johnson
Email [email protected]


User name LizadMan
Profile Name Jeremy Johanson
email address [email protected]

Except Jeremy "LizardMan" messed up in this ad and put the email
for the xxmonitorlizardxx account in his ad.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323083

Jeremy, You have two different accounts here with two different last names.

You posted in this thread under both.

How about a explanation?
 
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We do not knowingly allow members to have more than one account here to their name. Especially in cases when they would try to make their personal opinion appear to be a consensus of many people rather than a single source. And certainly not when it appears to be intentional misinformation with what appears to be malicious intent.

So if "LizadMan" and "xxmonitorlizardxx" have any substantial evidence that they are one and the same, using two different personal names in their profiles, then they will be required to provide proof of their identity or have both accounts banned because of the likelihood of false IDs having been presented at registration.

But I believe that Dennis is addressing this issue at the moment, so I will leave it in his capable hands.
 
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