Arnaud Moi - [email protected] from Spain - BAD GUY - stole $4800 from us

[dprince]

I am extra hopeful that he has learned his lesson, and that restitution is paid to ALL he owes. Definitely keep us updated, Kelli.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Does create an interesting situation. While you posted here to both warn others AND to possibly get some recovery, it has become apparent that this entity has scammed others. Just thinking out-loud:

1) Why should he pay you if he has other folks after him? With what has been unearthed here, this thread does not disappear if he makes payment. Maybe stalling for a few days helps him to move stolen goods elsewhere if he is fearing a "knock on the door".

2) Do you have an ethical obligation to turn over any possible contact info, should you get something actionable, to others who have been scammed ?

My instincts say that once you have your foot on someone's neck, the only option is to push harder. Good luck.

 

[KelliH]

Does create an interesting situation. While you posted here to both warn others AND to possibly get some recovery, it has become apparent that this entity has scammed others. Just thinking out-loud:

1) Why should he pay you if he has other folks after him? With what has been unearthed here, this thread does not disappear if he makes payment. Maybe stalling for a few days helps him to move stolen goods elsewhere if he is fearing a "knock on the door".

2) Do you have an ethical obligation to turn over any possible contact info, should you get something actionable, to others who have been scammed ?

My instincts say that once you have your foot on someone's neck, the only option is to push harder. Good luck.

Those are excellent questions, and like I said, there is a possible resolution in the works. It is my understanding that this possible resolution includes myself and A & M Gecko, but of course you might want to add the word remotely to that. I do not know nor have I personally spoken to anyone else that is owed money, so I have no knowledge of those situations.

 

[leopardbreeder]

Fraud is a major crime, and International fraud is an even bigger crime.

Like I said, I REALLY HIGHLY DOUBT this guy is ONLY stealing Geckos. Those pictures on his photobucket show someone with a VERY large snake. I really doubt he paid for that. He also has VERY nice tanks and reptile cages. I really think this guy is into this more than anyone here thinks.

 

[Chameleon Company]

Matthew,
Don't know where you cut your teeth, but I doubt anyone here thinks this guy is only a crook with geckos, and otherwise an upstanding citizen in all other transactions.

 

[leopardbreeder]

Atleast you get my point lol

 

[Anna34]

I received your email and clicked on this link. My husband Tim and I are very sorry to hear this has happened to you. If we should hear anything we will be more then happy to let you know.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Keep in mind that this guy forged international bank transfer papers that apparently look like the real-deal. People that do that are not just scammers, they are CRIMINALS. I'm sure the police in Spain know all about this guy, and would love to get their hands on him.

Kelli, if he doesn't come through for you, I hope you will file international fraud charges against him. Sitting in prison awhile might let him, and anyone else thinking about doing something like this, think twice.

 

[critical bill]

Send Chuck down there to see this guy!

Me?

As fate would have it...I recently partnered to purchased a vacation home in Spain with a good friend of mine who lives in the Netherlands. We'll be down there this fall/winter to have fun with our families together.

Maybe we get bored and start looking for this bum? Its a real possibility.

I think he thinks the distance is what is keeping him safe right now. He should really think again and start paying his debts off.

When they say this world is a very small place.....it really is. And for those bored enough and determined to find you? It can get very, very small.

 

[Lynn]

Kelli and Steve
Wow..I am sorry to hear what happened to you guys...This really SUCKS..

 

[leopardgeckosunlimit]

It is a shame that this kind of stuff happens to honest people. This guy needs to get what he deserves. Jessica and I wish you guys the best in luck resolving this situation and hopefully this guys is punished accordingly.


Henry

 

[komao]

So bad this guy
God will do something to him

 

[Iguania]

Hello Kelli,

Someone by the nick of joaquinfernandez was registered on our forum trying to sell the following geckos:

1.0 eublepharis macularius
morph: super snow het.raptor
age: 2 years old
price: 250€

1.0 eublepharis macularius
morph: mack snow het.raptor het.blizzard
age: 4 years old
price: 250€

2.0 eublepharis macularius
morph: paternless stripe het.raptor
age: 2 years old
price: 200€ for each

1.1 eublepharis macularius
morph: Bell jungle
age: 2 years old
price: 300€

0.1 eublepharis macularius
morph: blazzing blizzard
age: 3 years old
price: 200€

Said person has been banned from our forum. His IPs coincide with the ones you shared here. We don't have much more information about him but we want to give you all our support from Iguania and offer you any help we may be able to provide.
For starters we're already trying to investigate his address.

We also don't want to send this message without saying we are against all types of frauds which are nothing but harmful to our hobby. We can only hope that what this person has done will not reflect negatively on the majority of Spanish hobbyists.

Sincerely,

Patricia and Ryan (Admin. team of Iguania)
[email protected]

 

[xPantherx]

Hey,

I'm very sorry to hear all this. I just wanted to make a quick comment on the name he used. I highly doubt any Spanish family would name their child Arnaud, it is a very Franco-specific name. In that case, the last name of "Moi" literally means "Me". Again, I also highly doubt that someone French would have that last name. Easily, he could have given you the wrong name. He paid through Paypal correct? I am not familiar with international transactions, but could you recall if he was verified or if his address was verified (or do they even require that?)?
His name and way of speech sound like a complete scam to me.

K

 

[KelliH]

I wanted to give everyone an update. Nicolas and I have been in contact over the past couple of days via telephone. He did send me $1495.46 via Western Union this morning, and I did receive it. He said he will try to pay the remainder of the balance to me next week or soon thereafter. It's a start.

 

[Herpcam]

That's GREAT news, Kelli. I'm glad to hear that he's appearing to come clean with you. Hopefully he keeps it up until he repays everyone he's ripped off, but I'm not going to hold my breath. He didn't just start at this and the only reason he's doing this is probably because of this thread.

If he does follow through, I hope everyone who gets repaid comes here to present the full story about him. People can recover from doing stupid things much of the time as long as they want to.

 

[replvr]

Thats fantastic Kelli! I love seeing updates like this!

 

[Lynn]

I wanted to give everyone an update. Nicolas and I have been in contact over the past couple of days via telephone. He did send me $1495.46 via Western Union this morning, and I did receive it. He said he will try to pay the remainder of the balance to me next week or soon thereafter. It's a start.

Well that is a step in the right direction.

Great news

 

[Jim O]

Good deal Kelli! A definite step in the right direction.

 

[Tim Cole]

It's nice to see the BOI at it's best! May this continue.

Glad to hear this.