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Info Ashley Caspillo-SakaraGT4/Sakara *Possible Buyer Beware!*

i would never indicate to keep them, but to have them return to the place of origine where, not only mites infesation originated and is abundant, but ibd has been "confirmed" in that establishment. not proper for the snake either. if it was just mites as the primary problem, not a big deal, but when ibd is highly suspect/diagnosed, thats a whole other realm of problems.
a rescue organization (or individual) is an option as well. animals just shouldnt be returned to the place of illness/disease origin
 
reticguy76 said:
i would never indicate to keep them, but to have them return to the place of origine where, not only mites infesation originated and is abundant, but ibd has been "confirmed" in that establishment. not proper for the snake either. if it was just mites as the primary problem, not a big deal, but when ibd is highly suspect/diagnosed, thats a whole other realm of problems.
a rescue organization (or individual) is an option as well. animals just shouldnt be returned to the place of illness/disease origin
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I disagree. No one has any business selling animals if they know they have a mite problem. The mite problem MUST be eradicated before any animals leave or any animals come out of that collection.
 
ShadowAceD said:
I disagree. No one has any business selling animals if they know they have a mite problem. The mite problem MUST be eradicated before any animals leave or any animals come out of that collection.
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Agreed...No person with the SMALLEST amount of decent ethics would EVER even CONSIDER letting an animal they suspect is harboring a deadly disease such as IBD leave their collection.

Any respectable, responsible keeper would be on top of things like mites.

She claims to pretreat, and be on top of the mites, obviously that is NOT the case.

Shame on both her and Ryan for KNOWING a snake could have IBD and still selling/breeding. While he may be overseas and not 100% aware of the situation, he also sent an email to the original seller of the BCL, so he was aware of the IBD, and subsequent purchases & sales.
 
ShadowAceD said:
I disagree. No one has any business selling animals if they know they have a mite problem. The mite problem MUST be eradicated before any animals leave or any animals come out of that collection.
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X 2...If I pay money for an animal...I dont want an added "Bonus" of parasites. Too many people allow that to happen now a days. "Oh its just mites.....no big deal"...Wrong...Mites are a pain in the arse to eradicate.
 
i agree. that was my point. i would not send my animal back to ashley where the mites/potential ibd orginated. i agree, i wouldnt wanna keep it in my collection either. personally, i would either euthanize =/- ibd test, or relinquish to a rescue organization, as they will treat, usually. there are many people/organizations out there that welcome sick/diseased/infested animals and treat them, then adopt them back out to proper homes.

what i meant with the bold part, is that compared to ibd being diagnosed, mites are relatively small easily fixable issue (assuming that ibd wasnt involved in this). however, in this case, ibd is involved, therefore mites are a potential big issue, since mites are one of the suspect ways ibd may be transmitted.

i should have clarified what i meant a little better
 
I just wanted to let everyone know that Ashley and Ryan demanded a refund from Mr. Dean on the BCL that died for the supposed or confirmed IBD without ever actually showing or peoving with pics that the BCL that died was even in fact the BCL they purchased. He did ask for photo proof of the snake that died and they did not provide any pics. Yet they expect everyone to shipp back before a refund can be made. I understand them asking for pics just to make sure they are the same snake. I keep pics of all snakes I have ever sold just in case of any issues. This makes sure that someoine doesn't take a snake, have it die, and then try to pass it off to someone they think will refund them. After all the lies and pics I have seen who actually knows what Ashley has done or is planning on doing. i would take pics of the bolivians and make sure they are from Ashley and at that point they should refund immedialty. That is what a lot of very well know breeders do when found in the wrong. They don't ask for you to pay to ship back. That is just plain stupid. They ask for proof that the snakes are the ones they sold and when proved they refund.
 
I know Elizabeth posted pictures of all hers on RTB.net. Is that not proof enough? Rachel, have you? I might have missed it.
 
Well, that should be the pictures you need.
The only other instance where I think you'd need pictures is if the animal is DOA. Most breeders will require a picture of a DOA animal, not one that's still alive, unless its very visibly ill.
Someone correct me on that if I'm wrong.
 
Yeah Elizabeth has posted several, including ones of the snake in a weird position. She has more on FB.
 
Yeah I opened the paypal claim and it has to be resolved by January 3rd. I emailed her last night about needing the tracking number for the package.

All she has to do is set up the package specifications, set a pick up time for fedex to come here and grab the package, and give me the tracking number. That's all I need for the refund. It literally takes.... maybe 3 minutes?
 
I'm noting that when I did not reply in under a few hours to Ryan, he claimed I was ignoring him. Then he said ignoring me for five days over this was irrelevant, and now they seem to not be working with Rachel on shipping even when she IS trying to get those snakes back. This says to me that they have one set of rules of conduct they apply to everyone else, and apply a totally different one on themselves. With that in mind, I hope no more people EVER have the displeasure of doing any type of business with these people.
 
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Any reputable breeder would not ask for those animals back after acknowledging they know they could have gotten mites from their house. The only reason breeders ask for animals back is to resell them. Period. That is exactly what you guys are planning to do once they are "cleared". Well guess what, Ashely? Apparently, in your massive research frenzy, you missed that a negative result in a boa means jack when it comes to confirming IBD. You cannot confirm it is negative, you can only confirm that they are positive. Your collection is forever tainted and none of these animals should ever leave your house (Kyle's included) and none should ever come in. Not until every one is euthanized for presenting or dies being completely asymptomatic.

That is what a responsible breeder would do. You :censored: up on this one, now it's time to pay the piper.

You need to refund that money without getting those animals back. I cannot think of a reputable breeder who would not think the same.
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I completely agree, and thank you for confirming what I had mentioned earlier about reputable breeders refunding and not needing the snakes back with a fact that they sold sick snakes to their customers.

Your entire post was excellent, though I doubt it will sink in through their thick skulls very much as most of the other major outstanding posts haven't thus far. I don't know how much CLEARER we could be to these two.
 
Adrya said:
I completely agree, and thank you for confirming what I had mentioned earlier about reputable breeders refunding and not needing the snakes back with a fact that they sold sick snakes to their customers.

Your entire post was excellent, though I doubt it will sink in through their thick skulls very much as most of the other major outstanding posts haven't thus far. I don't know how much CLEARER we could be to these two.
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Yeah, Plan B is MUCH Clearer, I promise. They really probably think I am bluffing about it though.
 
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