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Read it Mike

gonzoone said:
I posted the screenshot of what you said Mark. After all the negative comments I have seen here you claim there are no "High Quality Breeders" speaking out against your son. I need to get a life? At least I'm waging my own debate and not letting my Daddy do my fighting for me. Your son is an adult, at least by age, why won't you let him suffer the consequences of his own actions? It's actually pretty pathetic the way you watch all the forums for anybody daring to speak about your little boy.
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I said Large Breeders..you know the "Big Guy's" in this industry. I also said that some of the smaller breeders don't like Ballbids but it is not everyone. So I say again to you..Get a life man! Your not debating anything and you deal with your family the way you see fit. I help more than my family members when I see someone like you doing the things and lying the way you have with your buddies. No single person could be identified on the IP screenshot so it was used for an example. Most all of our customers understood. It is a fact that you and your friends that are not customers are the ones talking about it. Ballbids knows who was doing the ddos attacks and they also upgraded for preventative measures. So far its working fine. I have nothing more to say to you Reed.
 
Mark, why is it you are here? Shouldn't you be showing your son how to be a man and allow him to fight his own battles?
Also, my post is VERY recent and directed at Marty, not you.
He lied - AGAIN- there really is nothing you can say, the proof is there for all to see
 
wyldwurm said:
Mark, why is it you are here? Shouldn't you be showing your son how to be a man and allow him to fight his own battles?
Also, my post is VERY recent and directed at Marty, not you.
He lied - AGAIN- there really is nothing you can say, the proof is there for all to see
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Just responding to the lies and misinformation you and your buddy have made. It sure must bother you Kim when I call you guys out on your lies. You are just hateful people.
 
lonewolfrider said:
Just responding to the lies and misinformation you and your buddy have made. It sure must bother you Kim when I call you guys out on your lies. You are just hateful people.
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Sorry Mark, you fail again...the FACTS are right there...posted for the world to see...that your programmer and representative of Ballbids.com is posting customer information on a public website
I wold certainly question the security of that site...
 
I do not think all this chitchat and tinkling matches are here by chance. At the beginning of this thread there was some pretty damning information, Avi admitting that the advertisements where snakes were marked 'sold' for just a few dollars were really made up, screen shots of wins that provoked a lot of dialogue, and so on.

I think that Ballbids probably is counting on the fact that if they put as many pages as possible between those posts and the present that people probably won't go back and read this enormous thread.

But of course, relevant information can be brought forward so that newer readers can see the background of our valid concerns without a lot of deliberate clutter..
 

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The management here has been good about allowing posts as long as they are relevant. I'm thinking that every time Mark Byers makes one of his derisive comments, one of us could bring forward a nice juicy relevant post.




12-07-2011, 12:41 PM #26
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Seeing as how we're a brand new website, it's obvious that no auctions have been completed yet. Instead, the ads were intended to give visitors an idea of the possibilities."


It was not obvious. You advertised the snakes as 'sold'. I'd pull those banners pronto, starting off by lying is not a good start.


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Lucille said:
I do not think all this chitchat and tinkling matches are here by chance. At the beginning of this thread there was some pretty damning information, Avi admitting that the advertisements where snakes were marked 'sold' for just a few dollars were really made up, screen shots of wins that provoked a lot of dialogue, and so on.

I think that Ballbids probably is counting on the fact that if they put as many pages as possible between those posts and the present that people probably won't go back and read this enormous thread.

But of course, relevant information can be brought forward so that newer readers can see the background of our valid concerns without a lot of deliberate clutter..
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Apparently you know very little about marketing. Avi was just trying to pacify you few haters. There was never anything wrong with the initial advertisements. Plus what you posted is not an advertisement. It is merely the accurate information on some closed auction icons. You are one that just continues to hate and Ballbids would not expect you to be a customer.
 
SPJ said:
And NOT ONE of those snakes exist.
They were never sold. Never bid on. Probably never even in BallBids posession.
The fact that they blatantly lied with the marketing is enough for me to steer clear of them. If they can't even be honest when they first try to market the site, why should anyone trust them with their money?
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I absolutely agree......
 
Lucille said:
The management here has been good about allowing posts as long as they are relevant. I'm thinking that every time Mark Byers makes one of his derisive comments, one of us could bring forward a nice juicy relevant post.




12-07-2011, 12:41 PM #26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aviBallBids
Seeing as how we're a brand new website, it's obvious that no auctions have been completed yet. Instead, the ads were intended to give visitors an idea of the possibilities."


It was not obvious. You advertised the snakes as 'sold'. I'd pull those banners pronto, starting off by lying is not a good start.


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So you believe it is alright for others to post here with incorrect information but only when I come in and refute the information than you feel the need to make up more writings so long as you stay within some sense of a specific topic. You few are real bad people. I hate to see you in the industry. Interestingly, I am not remotely close to being the only person with those feelings and the others I speak about are held in a very high standard in the community.
 
ShadowAceD said:
Well, even though they have the LLC. registration does not make them legit.

There are numerous businesses registered to that one address (along with other inconsistencies tied to that address), which is in Florida and which I am sure is owned by Avi's parents if he is who he claims to be.

That aside, they are running said "business" out of another state where they are clearly in violation of licensing issues as has been brought up on Facebook. I think they assume they have found a loop hole to it, but I am certain they are lying in more ways than one regarding this whole BallBids deal.

So, market crashing is not really the only issue I see here, though I do agree with you, Ritchie. I do not think they will last much longer. Too many people are realizing something is definitely wrong with their so called "business model" and "business ethics".
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I absolutely agree.
 
wyldwurm said:
Perhaps you missed my name to the left.

We both know how things happened. You are here now to attempt some sort of damage control since you personally have invested your own money and time into Ballbids. It's plainly obvious by your own words and mentality that you lack any ethical stance for these animals, which all people here have been fighting for years to defend. It's people like you and your son who give ammunition to organizations like PETA and HSUS. It's a hard pill to swallow after investing so much, but Ballbids will damage our rights as reptile owners. Personally, I will continue to defend against any morally bankrupt 'company' like BallBids.
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I absolutely agree.
 
You know I could post plenty of negative (probably inaccurate) information from people just spewing off about Fauna too....is that where you guys are at here. Just anything written without any proof whatsoever? I absolutely agree that that is what you are about Lucille. I have said my peace here again and you have again shown your ignorance and ill intentions to liable without merit.
 
Wilomn said:
mr. byers, I think you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. You seem quite adamant that others post proof of their accusations, which many have done many times, yet you, who have not once, not twice, but at least three times, said you had evidence to back your story that you would post if you could.

Well, the guy that owns this place said you could.

If you're not going to one can only come to a single logical solution.

You sir, are a liar. As is your son, his partner and everyone associated with ballbids.

THAT is not subject to debate is it solid proven fact. No matter how you slice it, not a single one of you will tell the truth. If I can see it, you can bet your booties that everyone else can too.
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I absolutely agree.
 
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Going for help? :D
 
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Going for help? :D
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Probably going to threaten fauna like they did USARK.
 
You guys are really nasty and bad people. I am not sure what position, if any, you actually hold within the community. It can't be anything commendable. Most members of the reptile community are not bad like this. How do you get away with this childishness and the posting of bad information? Is this why there are bad posts about this website on the net? I thought Fauna was a decent place. I know you are not decent people but you are a minority. I am amazed and disappointed that Fauna allows this. I came to respond again to my name being posted here with incorrect information. I have done that.
 
So I see you think that you have the power to black list us. I also know of 2 of the biggest breeders and I talk to one all the time, and they don't support ballbids. So all the large breeders support Ballbids. I know of plenty medium and smaller size that don't like you either.

lonewolfrider said:
So you believe it is alright for others to post here with incorrect information but only when I come in and refute the information than you feel the need to make up more writings so long as you stay within some sense of a specific topic. You few are real bad people. I hate to see you in the industry. Interestingly, I am not remotely close to being the only person with those feelings and the others I speak about are held in a very high standard in the community.
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IMO this is a decent place to be and generally people that give respect are treated with such. It would seem you don't like some of the things that are posted here in this BOI thread but that has nothing to do with this site or how it works or the general membership here. These are statements/opinions by members in a thread and the content of the posts are not controlled or edited (only exceptions would be broken rules if needed).

if you don't like it here, you are free to log out.
 
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