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[laterob]

Yup. The butter pastel went for $26.27, at whatever the bid price is per penny. If it's $0.50, on average, then the site collected $1313.50 for that snake. The winner has to pay $26.27 cash, + $30 shipping, plus how ever many bids they placed.

At a place like Beezid, there are multiple auctions going at once. At Ballbids, there is only one. I think it's gonna be a bloodbath, but I don't think they'll be able to maintain it this way for long. Like I said before, it's a bit of a pyramid scheme in that they need a bunch of people who bid a lot (lose a bunch of money). For the winning bid mentioned above, there were 2,626 OTHER bids, each which cost real money.

All but the most hardened gamblers will give up after a while, I imagine, unless Ballbids can offer more. So far, on the 5 snakes they've actually sold (err....4), they've made great $.

 

[Wild West Reptile]

Ballbids is growing and is not leaving.

This made me laugh really hard!

What I think Ballbids should do is show up at a major reptile show and have a booth promoting their business. Then we will see if the real community is supportive or not. Hell...I bet we could get the fee payed for you! It would be fun to see them getting "support" from the community. Although the show would more than likely need to hire a lot more security.

In fact, id love to have the booth right next to them! Imagine how many supporters will be stopping by to wish them "well"!

 

[lonewolfrider]

I'm sorry, but I did not realize that ""I would not as any" means "none" to you. I didn't catch that, and apologize that the phrase you used does not mean "none" to me.

Well, I guess it's my fault in that I did not ask you for your definition of an "adult conversation". Sorry, I thought my questions were direct and pointed to try to obtain some facts from you about your claims. Hate and jealousy? Me? Seriously, you got all that out of my questions to you? Trust me, nothing could be farther from the truth. I have no reason to hate you, and certainly no reason to be jealous at all. I have absolutely no desire to do anything like BallBids, so what is there to be jealous about? I'm retired and got enough to fill my time with my own websites and other interests, thank you very much. Whether BallBids succeeds or fails will have absolutely no impact or effect on me whatsoever. So I'm offering you a chance to tell me facts and thereby all the other reads as well, without a lot of personal and emotional side shows attached, so I can UNDERSTAND what you are saying about BallBids. Isn't that what you WANT?

Seriously, guy, if you actually want an adult conversation, then here's your chance. Or at least fully describe to me what exactly you deem an "adult conversation" really is to you, and I'll see if I can comply with your version of that. I'm sorry if I don't yet understand what you mean by that term...

My bad on the wording but if you really just wanted to know about this you most defiantly would not not be so condescending in your writings. But I will try again for a few since I have a few minutes.

 

[laterob]

I can't find out how much bid packs are...I do not want to register. I did get this from Ballbids.com, though:

Penny Auctions are a unique platform for Entertainment Shopping. The winner can receive an item up to 95% off its retail value. With that, some people have allegedly studied bidding trends and techniques, and have subsequently written books and Blogs about the best way to win a Penny Auction!

Ballbids recommends that all customers research these areas, read any books or informational blogs, understand bidding techniques, and know all of the rules associated with the site before playing.

Find the item that you want and focus on that item.

If there are several items that you are interested in winning, make sure you have the right amount of bids to compete on those Auctions. Do not get caught short as the timers go down!

If you have a limited amount of bids, focus on an item that will give you the better chance to win.

Know when to bid. The real action takes place as the timers are close to running out.

Know your budget. Remember that this is entertainment and a competition. You will not always come out the winner. Know what you can afford to spend and observe the bidding habits of the users you are bidding against.

We strongly recommend that you start off slow and learn the process of bidding before you jump into the more competitive auctions.

Once again, having one item up at a time = bloodbath, and huge profits for our heroes in this story.

 

[laterob]

Bumblebee = $19.68 (x$0.50/penny) = $984
Mojave = $0.32 (x$0.50/penny) = $16
Piebald = $14.48 (x$0.50/penny) = $724
Butter Pastel = $26.27 (x$0.50/penny) = $1313.50


Assuming $0.50/bid.

 

[Wilomn]

mr. byers, neither you, nor your pal marty nor little zackeroni have addressed the lies you told about and to me.

Got anything to say about that or were you just hoping I'd go away if you shoveled yourself deep enough? Because you're almost there. You're so deep in it I'm surprised you can still breath. Roaches got nothin on you, mr. byers, I'm sure you could live in a sewer no self-respecting roach would step tarsus in, and do quite well in such an environment, if how you do here, steeped in it as you keep yourself, is any indication.

 

[lonewolfrider]

mr. byers, neither you, nor your pal marty nor little zackeroni have addressed the lies you told about and to me.

Got anything to say about that or were you just hoping I'd go away if you shoveled yourself deep enough? Because you're almost there. You're so deep in it I'm surprised you can still breath. Roaches got nothin on you, mr. byers, I'm sure you could live in a sewer no self-respecting roach would step tarsus in, and do quite well in such an environment, if how you do here, steeped in it as you keep yourself, is any indication.

Wow! You guys have some real strange cookies in this community. Real strange..

 

[lonewolfrider]

Bumblebee = $19.68 (x$0.50/penny) = $984
Mojave = $0.32 (x$0.50/penny) = $16
Piebald = $14.48 (x$0.50/penny) = $724
Butter Pastel = $26.27 (x$0.50/penny) = $1313.50


Assuming $0.50/bid.

Your starting to get the understanding on how these business models work..There are many more though..I guess they just got bumped with the upgrade work but you can see some of them of Ballbids Youtube channel and I think most people say what they paid.

 

[lonewolfrider]

Your starting to get the understanding on how these business models work..There are many more though..I guess they just got bumped with the upgrade work but you can see some of them of Ballbids Youtube channel and I think most people say what they paid.

And remember that Ballbids does all the advertisements and has the overhead to run this type of business. So you can see it is nowhere close to a get rich quick plan. It is a long term plan and the best thing about this concept is it does not determine, decrease, or change the actual breeders retail value unlike these facebook and other auctions that hurt the market.

 

[gonzoone]

And fyi, i an not partners with mark or zack. My posts here are of my own accord.

Marty you have already admitted to me authoring a very unprofessional email using Ballbs's administrative email so how can you now claim you don't represent them?

 

[laterob]

I've already said that my issue isn't with the concept of penny auctions per se...it's with this one in particular, based on what I have seen here and at your site itself.

Your starting to get the understanding on how these business models work

Business model = Ponzi scheme. As soon as the increase in membership slows down, you are done.

 

[WebSlave]

You are pretty nosy on another persons company but I can answer a few of your questions. Yes of course there is a contractual agreement with all of the Breeders. No, Ballbids buys the snakes from the Breeder in advance and at a fair value. Yes the Breeder ships the snakes directly. No it is not a dollar a bid, the Bid pack costs vary as you can see on the site. All of Ballbids business relationships, just like customers information is not of public record unless they decide to make it so. And yes Ballbids is only doing two Auctions per week right now....

Nosy? Me? Well, if that is how you refer to people trying to figure out your business model and verify facts that you have been claiming, I guess you've got me there. Besides, I didn't think BallBids was YOUR company anyway, so why would you get so defensive over my questions? Now that this comes to mind, what exactly IS your stake and involvement in BallBids then?

Have you had a chance to research my question of which websites your supporting community is posting on yet? I really would like to know, if you don't mind.

Oh, and your definition of "adult conversation" would be appreciated as well. We don't seem to agree on what that actually is, and I'm willing to try to adapt to your definition. You just need to let me know what that definition actually is.

Oh darn, another question popped into my mind reading over your quote.

About keeping the actual breeders supplying the animals to BallBids confidential, isn't one measure of the quality of an animal measured by it's actual source? I would think that would be a twofold advantage by highlighting that sort of information in association with the auction. One in that the breeders gets some positive exposure from advertising that way on your site, and two, it is an additional selling point to whip up more interest for the animal being auctioned if the source is a breeder who people would naturally prefer to get their animals from anyway. So seriously, what's the upside of keeping the breeder source a secret?

 

[laterob]

see some of them of Ballbids Youtube channel and I think most people say what they paid.

I am sorry, but I can't find them. I've just watched the top three videos and there was no mention of price.

If it's not secret, can you tell us what your bid packs go for? Not bids won in an auction, but the actual bid packs.

Just as a point of reference, here are the prices for Beezid bid packs:

30 Bids = $27
50 Bids = $40
100 Bids = $70
200 Bids = $120
500 Bids = $300
1000 Bids = $550 (still $0.55/bid)

Thanks!

 

[KORBIN5895]

I posted a screen shot about 15 pages ago. It showed 30 bids cost $27.

@ Mark
I would not ask any actually implies that you have some to ask. So is this another lie?

 

[Wilomn]

mr. byers, neither you, nor your pal marty nor little zackeroni have addressed the lies you told about and to me.

Got anything to say about that or were you just hoping I'd go away if you shoveled yourself deep enough? Because you're almost there. You're so deep in it I'm surprised you can still breath. Roaches got nothin on you, mr. byers, I'm sure you could live in a sewer no self-respecting roach would step tarsus in, and do quite well in such an environment, if how you do here, steeped in it as you keep yourself, is any indication.

Wow! You guys have some real strange cookies in this community. Real strange..

You do realize, don't you mr. byers, that this is no way an answer to the questions I've asked about proof you've claimed, many times, to have and you have, many times, failed to provide.

What's up with that? One could easily assume you are one who lies quite easily, frequently, with an ease that would render an honest man dumbfounded, were you not so bad at it. Is that what you're after mr. byers, building yourself a reputation as a thief and liar? Everyone reading this knows that you and marty and lil zackeroni are all thieves and liars. avi too, come to think of it. In fact, there's not an honest man among you, is there?

Well, at least you can fool yourself. Not really saying much, but it's ... well, it's pretty crappy that that's all you've got, but you seem pretty happy with it, or at least you seem to favor it over honesty and integrity. www.dictionary.com. I know you don't personally know what those words mean and that site will be of great assistance to you if you use it.

 

[KORBIN5895]

Well Wes I think Mark has been a shyster since way back when he decided to sue someone because he wasn't smart enough to use his flash light to break the window like his 7 year old said he should've.

 

[gonzoone]

Wilomn where in this 106 pages of evasion and misdirection have you seen Marty or Mark answer a direct question with anything resembling a direct answer? And yet he wants to talk about an adult conversation? It's like a 3 year old who knows he's been caught red-handed but still trying to get out of it.

 

[gonzoone]

The last one to even attempt an honest answer was Avi back oh 80 pages ago. And apparently even he figured out association with these guys was doing him no good because he seems to have fell off the radar.

 

[lonewolfrider]

I've already said that my issue isn't with the concept of penny auctions per se...it's with this one in particular, based on what I have seen here and at your site itself.



Business model = Ponzi scheme. As soon as the increase in membership slows down, you are done.

If it were a ponzi scheme it would be illegal. So it is not. Please don't pretend to know things the you do not. Ballbids is a completely legal company. All is asked of people on this thread is they do not lie to disparage Ballbids. You just did without merit.

 

[lonewolfrider]

You do realize, don't you mr. byers, that this is no way an answer to the questions I've asked about proof you've claimed, many times, to have and you have, many times, failed to provide.

What's up with that? One could easily assume you are one who lies quite easily, frequently, with an ease that would render an honest man dumbfounded, were you not so bad at it. Is that what you're after mr. byers, building yourself a reputation as a thief and liar? Everyone reading this knows that you and marty and lil zackeroni are all thieves and liars. avi too, come to think of it. In fact, there's not an honest man among you, is there?

Well, at least you can fool yourself. Not really saying much, but it's ... well, it's pretty crappy that that's all you've got, but you seem pretty happy with it, or at least you seem to favor it over honesty and integrity. www.dictionary.com. I know you don't personally know what those words mean and that site will be of great assistance to you if you use it.

You know I don't talk to the likes of you anymore. You are really too weird of person based on what you have done and said in public. The world is filled with strange ones and you fit the description to a tee. PS. Ballbids is growing whether you like it or not so suck it up and be a man for a change.