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RichsBallPythons said:
Flat Rate boxes are weiged for USPS records but are not added anywhere.

Where them weights came from Im not sure from screen shots. But i ship Flat rate all the time, and never are weights required. I either schedule pickup or drop off in box. Weights are never added to the package or to my USPS account.
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She's in Montana where people actually try to be helpful. Maybe someone entered a weight for her.

Either way, the answers are skimpy and weak.
 
barbie said:
I also by hand counted 2500 medium nymphs. then I weighed aprox 13000 small at a weight of 307grms and through in the 163 large nymphs just for good messure because my package went out late.
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The total above outweighs the weight on the invoice. The OP's weights are spot on and it appears he is claiming the same amount he did before that invoice was printed and the weight was discovered.

Rich, if I read his earlier post correctly, that invoice was produced by USPS which may include their records.
 
Also the invoice is printed from their intranet, which is different from Internet and the public would not have access to it.
 
Wilomn said:
She's in Montana where people actually try to be helpful. Maybe someone entered a weight for her.

Either way, the answers are skimpy and weak.
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If she printed label at home theres no need to enter weight as long as Flat Rate box is under 70lbs. As its not asked for when printing from USPS or from paypal. Weights are only taken if you pay in person at the USPS desk.

Lets see a copy of the actual shipping label to see if it states flat rate or not, If it was shipped Flat rate weight would no show on the label.
 
Didn't Justin say he went to the post office and had them print out their information on the shipment? I think those weights aren't just shipping label weights , those are the weights the post office recorded for their own records.
If I'm wrong then this is a lot less black and white but if those are post office weights then there was a very large mistake on barbies end even if it was an accident or misunderstanding someone is missing 800 dollars worth of roaches.
 
Focal said:
The total above outweighs the weight on the invoice. The OP's weights are spot on and it appears he is claiming the same amount he did before that invoice was printed and the weight was discovered.

Rich, if I read his earlier post correctly, that invoice was produced by USPS which may include their records.
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I just went though my USPS invoices, and all packages shipped flat rate shows 0.0lbs for weight. So if there is weights being shows then it was not shipped in flat rate box but rather priority.
 
Only thing i can think of as to why weights were to show for flat rate on theses if labels were printed via PayPal, as they have different requirement then USPS
 
It says the package was sent Priority Mail Signature confirmation. That is written on the sheet that has the weights.
 
RichsBallPythons said:
I just went though my USPS invoices, and all packages shipped flat rate shows 0.0lbs for weight. So if there is weights being shows then it was not shipped in flat rate box but rather priority.
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I got the impression that the OP's printouts weren't your standard invoices. As you'd previously acknowledged, even if they don't print it on a label, the USPS does weigh their flat-rate boxes for their own records. Is it not possible that they'd choose to make that information available to a customer, for just such an occasion where there's some sort of dispute?
 
Even on his own pictures and videos it shows on the label that it was printed flat rate and has big paypal logos on them because I printed them online.
 
ApexPredatorBoids said:
I got the impression that the OP's printouts weren't your standard invoices. As you'd previously acknowledged, even if they don't print it on a label, the USPS does weigh their flat-rate boxes for their own records. Is it not possible that they'd choose to make that information available to a customer, for just such an occasion where there's some sort of dispute?
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Those Invoices that were posted are NOT from USPS.com but rather paypal or alike, as in video is shows eBay on the labels.

But Flat Rate boxes are NOT weighed nor required when shipped from usps.com. Ive havent shipped from paypal usps in long time, but when its shipped Flat Rate weights are NOT on the label nor in the invoice. At the front counter USPS DOES weigh every package in the system, as it helps when sorting and shipping.
 
I haven't used USPS in a loooong time, but I have seen both UPS and Fedex put weights on boxes that were not accurate when I've shipped snakes that were overnighted.

I'm not sold on the weight as measure in this deal.
 
Give you an idea what im talkin about when shipping on line flat rate.

My invoice with address's removed, showing flat rate and no weights shown on invoice nor on label.
 

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Wilomn said:
I haven't used USPS in a loooong time, but I have seen both UPS and Fedex put weights on boxes that were not accurate when I've shipped snakes that were overnighted.

I'm not sold on the weight as measure in this deal.
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They are very strict on weights at UPS and FedEx. They charge you for under weight packages but will not reimburse you if you over weigh and pay more
 
You guys do understand he physically went to the post office and had them print their information not from a public record or website but from their own intranet ? I don't think it matters who what or how it was shipped those were the weights recorded for the USPS use for shipping ? Again I could be completely wrong I haven't done a ton of shipping.
 
I know that PayPal doesn't cover most live animals but feeder insects they do, so the OP needs to make sure the PayPal representative that is handling the case is aware of the policy for feeder insects.
 
rheapaul79 said:
You guys do understand he physically went to the post office and had them print their information not from a public record or website but from their own intranet ? I don't think it matters who what or how it was shipped those were the weights recorded for the USPS use for shipping ? Again I could be completely wrong I haven't done a ton of shipping.
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No you are correct. And the $2.20 signature confirmation is a reduced rate for purchasing online vs in-store, so it was paid for online.
 
RichsBallPythons said:
Those Invoices that were posted are NOT from USPS.com but rather paypal or alike, as in video is shows eBay on the labels.
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Interesting theory. I'd love to hear how you've come to that conclusion. Unless you're saying they're outright fakes, the url shows that they're from USPS.gov. Not only that, but of the three business entities you've named, USPS is the only one that's mentioned anywhere on the invoices.
rheapaul79 said:
You guys do understand he physically went to the post office and had them print their information not from a public record or website but from their own intranet ? I don't think it matters who what or how it was shipped those were the weights recorded for the USPS use for shipping ? Again I could be completely wrong I haven't done a ton of shipping.
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That's what I'm getting at. When juxtaposed with Rich's invoices, they're clearly very different: the OP's being much more detailed.

If we're going to give more credence to the exception, rather than the rule, this is just going to keep going nowhere fast. The only thing even remotely resembling concrete evidence, has been posted by, and is supportive of the OP. Sure, the weights could be conceivably be wrong, but they're much more easily could be right. I'd imagine that USPS has some sort of fairly stringent calibration protocol for their scales.
 
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