Bad Guy BEWARE- ANIMAL SPECAILTIES- chico california by Elizabeth Minton

[bullies&balls]

What isn't any of your (BIO) business is here schedule, her fine, unless animal related which I'm sure the attack hounds would be all over !! It's vry simple, did she supply pics or other types of proof for the claims she made ? Nope. Did she alert others to a potentinal problem with a large scale operation ? Yes she did. Now the decision is yours on how to follow up. As far as wanna be sherlocks and any other of your claims, once again shows your attitude as well as your little "regular posters" comment. LOL do you think that your join is your experience in this industry ?? Attacking is done in many ways and asking questions in the way many did is diffenately attacking. As for "few that knew" were as many as that were backing you up !! My problem isn't the search for more info from the OP, but the way YOU handle it !! You are not anything special in this industry to be able to slam anyone else on a public site and shout "NEG REP" and not face reprecussions. Do I think the OP needs more proof and that the above should be taken with a grain of salt ? Yes I do. Do I think I am entitled to her class schedule or how many rats she now has in her posession ? Nope not at all. So sit back and talk with dear mister Watson on that for awhile.

 

[deborahbroadus]

What isn't any of your (BIO) business is here schedule, her fine, unless animal related which I'm sure the attack hounds would be all over !! It's vry simple, did she supply pics or other types of proof for the claims she made ? Nope. Did she alert others to a potentinal problem with a large scale operation ? Yes she did. Now the decision is yours on how to follow up. As far as wanna be sherlocks and any other of your claims, once again shows your attitude as well as your little "regular posters" comment. LOL do you think that your join is your experience in this industry ?? Attacking is done in many ways and asking questions in the way many did is diffenately attacking. As for "few that knew" were as many as that were backing you up !! My problem isn't the search for more info from the OP, but the way YOU handle it !! You are not anything special in this industry to be able to slam anyone else on a public site and shout "NEG REP" and not face reprecussions. Do I think the OP needs more proof and that the above should be taken with a grain of salt ? Yes I do. Do I think I am entitled to her class schedule or how many rats she now has in her posession ? Nope not at all. So sit back and talk with dear mister Watson on that for awhile.

Ahh, so now we get to to heart of your discontent.

Too bad it's OT.

 

[bullies&balls]

really ?? Most of the DEMANDS that you , well demanded were OT as well. OP didn't supply pics, she DID post a schedule, but that wasn't good enough for YOU. Her reason for going to the job in the first place came under scrunity, "why would you have stayed" was asked many times. Times are tuff, getting a part time job working with something you like is very rare. Most flip burgers !!! Bottom line is this, take the post any way you'd like. Op didn't have enough evidence IMO to support all the claims she brings up, BUT maybe it will help a potential buyer ask some more questions to the Company. Also, the Company if made aware can come here and shed some light on the suject. You says she isn't showing anything, yet YOU know much less about the situation then the OP. Questioning and acusatory are very different. More info needs to be brought to light and the place of business needs to shed some of the light.

 

[jdshscja]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdshscja View Post
She specifically states in that thread, that the animals she would take in would only be sold to friends and family. She further says that they would never be bred and any of the friends and family must agree to that, as well as to never resell the animals.
Take what she said for what it's worth, make up your own mind and move on.

Another "give them the benefit of the doubter." Because she stated it, it must be true. Ummm, I see how that works...

So I'm confused, are you trying to imply that she was lying in that post? You believe she was actually planning on breeding deformed animals? Because if that's what you're implying, you're doing the exact same thing as the OP, throwing around accusations with no proof. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I see no other way to take that statement.

I'm not sure how anything I said would make me a "give them a benefit of the doubter". I've stated that she has no proof and that most people(sorry maybe I should mention, including myself) will see this as an ex employee looking for a little payback. I don't know about you but I don't see that as siding with her in any way. I'm just not willing to call her a liar when I have no proof of that either.

I'm not looking to get into a back and forth over this. She has stated she has no proof of how things are at the company. The only thing left is if her "word" is good. Good luck proving if someones word is good or not over the internet, when there is just opinions and no facts on the matter.

I will concede that I probably shouldn't have used the word attack when describing what some people have stated; insults and underhanded comments would have been a much more accurate way of describing it.

In the spirits of hopefully keeping this on topic the rest of the way, was the company ever notified of this thread? If they were I must have missed it when reading through. I would be interested in what they have to say on the matter.

 

[deborahbroadus]

So I'm confused, are you trying to imply that she was lying in that post? You believe she was actually planning on breeding deformed animals? Because if that's what you're implying, you're doing the exact same thing as the OP, throwing around accusations with no proof. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I see no other way to take that statement.

I'm not sure how anything I said would make me a "give them a benefit of the doubter". I've stated that she has no proof and that most people(sorry maybe I should mention, including myself) will see this as an ex employee looking for a little payback. I don't know about you but I don't see that as siding with her in any way. I'm just not willing to call her a liar when I have no proof of that either.

I'm not looking to get into a back and forth over this. She has stated she has no proof of how things are at the company. The only thing left is if her "word" is good. Good luck proving if someones word is good or not over the internet, when there is just opinions and no facts on the matter.

I will concede that I probably shouldn't have used the word attack when describing what some people have stated; insults and underhanded comments would have been a much more accurate way of describing it.

In the spirits of hopefully keeping this on topic the rest of the way, was the company ever notified of this thread? If they were I must have missed it when reading through. I would be interested in what they have to say on the matter.

I did not imply anything. I think it was perfectly clear that I was saying I don't believe anything she (or anyone else) says just because they said it. So, on that we agree.

No, they don't seem to be. If Elizabeth has notified them, I must have missed that post.

 

[deborahbroadus]

Because she has absolutely no proof of anything else she is saying. Proving that she is telling the truth in at least one aspect of her story might help lend a tiny bit of weight to the rest of her story.



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And apparently you are one of the FEW who got it. You are my shero! I was trying to help her.

**I won't make that mistake again.

 

[deborahbroadus]

And apparently you are one of the FEW who got it. You are my shero! I was trying to help her.

**I won't make that mistake again.

To the ones that thought the copy paste was enough...those can be doctored.

 

[JudyC]

well then i guess a bio is just a fake reality type thing for people to not give a crud about what other people say.

If you had spent any time here at all, you would realize the high number of people that come on here and simply lie...for all kinds of different reasons. Some for revenge, some for attention, some to scam money, some just because they can't tolerate admitting they were wrong....and many other reasons, too. I don't see how you can say folks don't "give a crud" about what you're saying, when so much attention has been given to it. But very few are just going to lay down and take your word for it....we've been stung waayyyyy too many times to believe anyone just because they "say it."

... imgetting fed up with this crap....

.... and im ssick of being treated like im dumb

... this is my last post as it is not important anymore...

also there are plenty of other places to buy ball pythons from. this isnt the only site and there are breeders in my town who have reputible good business and are very kind to people and also i have a few connections though friends. im not saying everyone on here is ignorant. there is a humungous amount of people who are and then a large handlful who arnt ignorant. goodnight

Here's some advice, Elizabeth....

Don't be so defensive...and don't take it so personally when your word is not accepted at face value in a situation like this. That is what generates all the "crud" and what makes you feel like you're being treated like "you're dumb".

Say what you came to say...explain that you have no proof but you are doing your best to inform people of a bad business...and then step away. Others will make their judgments on the business without any defensive tantrums on your part.

Lastly...if you say this is your "last post"...then make it so. Continuing to come back and argue the point and call everyone "ignorant" who doesn't take your word for it just because you said it just makes your point look that much weaker in the long run, and doesn't do your own image any favors either.

 

[LauraB]

Just out of curiosity, what veterinary classes/courses are offered at Butte Community College?

Also, is it possible your lay-off from Animal Specialties might have anything to do with the Misdemeanor charge you were ordered on 10-22-10 to make restitution for?

 

[LauraB]

And would this be Paul Benson of Nature Zone?

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

just got my check this morning and i asked them if i got laid off for any reason other than my schedule and they said "NO". they said i did an exceptional job but they just didnt need my number of hours.

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

no i dont think so. he only works at animal specialties

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

NO. ONE. CARES.

Seriously, how on Earth can your brain process the above thoughts as even remotely related to this discussion?

Proof. Now. Or just stop. That's all. You're acting like a little drama queen who's a troublemaker and probably still living at home, used to having life her way, so I'm not optimistic that you'll actually bow out of this discussion with your integrity mostly non-intact, but hey, here's hoping.

You're not special... your "word" is not special... your situation is not special... you need to stop unless you can prove the things you're talking about.

actually i live in chico california.... ALONE paying my own rent, gas and college. i am stopping even posting on here because you are not taking the information i handed you even into account. you dont even concider that since i worked there and got laid off because of my schedule (wich infact was told to me today by my ex boss) that maybe what i saw needs some looking into by potential buyers. oh well there are plenty of other places i can go to to buy snakes and whatnot. places were people have lives other than bashing others online for hours and hours days and days

 

[deborahbroadus]

Laura gave me the idea to do a little searching..I came up with:

Paul Benson
Animal Specialties
[email protected]

 

[LauraB]

I did a little more searching, too - and came up with this:
Paul Bensen also owns ReptiWorms, which is an affiliate of Animal Specialties, Inc.

 

[LauraB]

* Benson - NOT Bensen

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

must be him then i know he had some of those products.

my whole thing was to just inform you of what i had worked with so you guys would ask questions and be a little careful. but youve turned it into a bad karma/ against me thing wich is actually hilarouse. i mean what kind of legitament "waaaa waaa" karma is this that someone gave me. if people are gonna give me that kinda karma keep it commin. i like a good laugh once in a while

 

[Lucille]

the mojority of you all on this site seem very ignorant and blind.

if people are gonna give me that kinda karma keep it commin.

With the comments you are making, there's no real danger of it stopping....

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

it does not matter to me. i am not worried about having low karma because people on this site have turned it into of a way to bah the person and a joke. i mean if your going to bad karma someone for doing a bad trade, sick animal shipment etc thats understandable and legitament but to bad karma and say "Waaaa Waaaa" is kind of a pointless thing given for no other reason than that persons opinion. the whole karma thing is a joke and other sites work perfectly fine without these bio's and karma things. this thread was mainly just to notify people of something i saw and didnt think was right. you have have all turned it into a joke against me

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

and do not point this out... i already know my spelling right now is horrible. im not a very good typer