Bad Guy BEWARE- ANIMAL SPECAILTIES- chico california by Elizabeth Minton

[capt._howdy]

Actually, it does matter. I mentioned that she could sell off all her animals to pay this fine she keeps talking about. She claims she didn't have any animals. I called her out on it. Another lie to add to her long list of questionables, which makes this thread even more worthless.

Seems you're a bit confused, good sir.

not really she said she got rid of them ohh besides some rats gotta put that there for the fauna police your just mad cause she backed out of a sale

 

[bradleymoore]

why are we talking about Elizabeth's animals what does it matter.... WAIT IT DOESNT. your just taking it off topic. shadera how about keep the topic where it belongs and not on Elizabeth's animals

we are talking about elizabeth's animals, or former animals, because one of the big things she's bringing up about this business that is bothering her are disfigured animals being for sale.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180634

so yes, it does have significance here considering it's one of the topics up for discussion.

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

also selling those wouldnt help with my fine. rats sell for next to nothing and cats are practically free. i did rehome 2 normal leopard geckos for $60 and that was just luck

 

[Shadera]

not really she said she got rid of them ohh besides some rats gotta put that there for the fauna police your just mad cause she backed out of a sale

Hardly. That animal sold just fine, but thanks for the concern. But really, this thread isn't about me. Seems you're the one who wants to drag it off the topic at hand.

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

we are talking about elizabeth's animals, or former animals, because one of the big things she's bringing up about this business that is bothering her are disfigured animals being for sale.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180634

so yes, it does have significance here considering it's one of the topics up for discussion.

that ad is no longer active last time i saw it was locked too. i dont even pay attention to that and i currently dont buy snakes anymore. why dring up what is already dead and has been dead for quite some time

 

[bradleymoore]

that ad is no longer active last time i saw it was locked too. i dont even pay attention to that and i currently dont buy snakes anymore. why dring up what is already dead and has been dead for quite some time

it may be locked, but that doesn't mean it can't be viewed. my intentions aren't to resurrect anything other than your views on a matter that you're now denouncing.

all of your other concerns, could be considered to be valid... to me.

 

[Mister Internet]

i didnt say i didnt have ANY animals i said i didnt have my snakes. i have a cat and rats but those i cant sell (except for the babies) because they are also pets to my mom and dad not just me.. im not being the victim im just sick of people sh**. i know alot of stuff and people should take my advice as ive come to find out im right often. you all underestimate my knowlage and understanding just because im 19 and most of you are older. age is a number and no where near a comparason to knowlage. i have more knowlage than my age should have when it comes to certain topics. and im ssick of being treated like im dumb

You're not acting like someone who's going to college in hopes of being a teacher. You think this is aggravating, spend one day with 6 year-olds. You should ask yourself if you really have the patience for your chosen profession.

So... just to recap. What I take away from this thread is:

- You had a job with a reptile wholesaler that keeps their animals badly, but you were getting money so you didn't say anything
- You decided that this was an issue only after being "laid off"
- You have no proof, no credibility, and your only response when asked why we should believe you is "I'm not here to BS you" and "I've come to find out I'm usually right about things". Stellar.

I think, and I'm just going out on a limb here, that you are still in many ways a child, and you are acting out because your dose of the "Real world" didn't sit well with you. Sorry sweetie, people get hired and fired all the time, you're not special. What does make you... erm... "special" is this raging crusade you're on to try to convince us that the people whose money you were happy to take a week ago are all of a sudden the worst reptile jobbers in the nation.

Your "word" means nothing... you know this. Your accusations are completely without proof and therefore baseless as far as any of us know. Your behavior in past threads tells us that you are quite emotional and irrational when crossed, so your current trend in posting in this thread must be questioned.

Basically, you've given us nothing. Nothing but your "word", which in reality, is nothing. Unlike the twisted and somewhat juvenile characterization of the BOI you seem to hold, this place is for FACTS, and PROOF, and REASON. You've offered us none of those. How can you possibly be mad at anyone for disagreeing with you when you've completely disregarded the BOI with every post you've made in this thread?

I mean, we all know what this is... sour grapes, princess gets "laid off" and can't take it, decides to launch an all-out offensive on former employer... not because it's necessary, but just because she's that kind of person (based on her former posts). It's pretty transparent at this point.

A picture, an email... anything? If not, the time has come for you to STOP POSTING.

 

[April Homich]

i couldnt work full time because i am going to college for vet schooling. i do not have time for 8 hours every 6-7 days. i did as many hours as i could. i didnt even have time to shower after work. i had school right after my shift ended. i was actually pushing my hours. i dont care what you gues think. i was just trying to inform people of the conditions of the animals i worked with for 2 weeks. i was not fired... i was laid off wich is alot better, i was doing my job well wich included feeding, watering, and scooping cages... pretty easy a retard could do that so dont try to say i wasnt doing it right. the boss told me that they decided my schedule wouldnt work for them and that they were starting to hire full time workers (non college students) and did not have any room for my schedule. i was working there with plans to earn money while looking for another job. it isnt easy to find jobs in my town so when you get a place you stay with it for as long as you can

You're not in vet school. If you're taking classes as an undergrad, you're a pre-vet student. Your writing is horrendous. People aren't going to take you seriously and you'd never be considered for vet school if you wrote an application letter like that. I know I'm being harsh. Maybe it's the "retard" comment that pissed me off the most.

Anyway, you posted your schedule. You only have 12 hours of class a week (assuming the class until 12am really meant 12pm) - you have more than enough time to work full time. Full time is usually 35-40 hours a week, not the 48-56 you said you didn't have time for. I doubt the pet store would want to pay overtime. If you're hurting for cash as bad as you say you are, you should be doing whatever you need to do to make ends meet. I have been working both a part time and full time job for the past 6 or so years. Before that I was in grad school. Try a work/school schedule of 12-14 hour days (on average) 7 days a week. Still want to go to vet school?

I'm sorry, but I can't take your claims seriously when there are so many holes in all your other stories. Your credibility is greatly lacking here.

Maybe I'm just tired of the "poor me" stuff that people use as an excuse. It's late. I need sleep.

 

[bradleymoore]

You're not acting like someone who's going to college in hopes of being a teacher. You think this is aggravating, spend one day with 6 year-olds. You should ask yourself if you really have the patience for your chosen profession.

So... just to recap. What I take away from this thread is:

- You had a job with a reptile wholesaler that keeps their animals badly, but you were getting money so you didn't say anything
- You decided that this was an issue only after being "laid off"
- You have no proof, no credibility, and your only response when asked why we should believe you is "I'm not here to BS you" and "I've come to find out I'm usually right about things". Stellar.

I think, and I'm just going out on a limb here, that you are still in many ways a child, and you are acting out because your dose of the "Real world" didn't sit well with you. Sorry sweetie, people get hired and fired all the time, you're not special. What does make you... erm... "special" is this raging crusade you're on to try to convince us that the people whose money you were happy to take a week ago are all of a sudden the worst reptile jobbers in the nation.

Your "word" means nothing... you know this. Your accusations are completely without proof and therefore baseless as far as any of us know. Your behavior in past threads tells us that you are quite emotional and irrational when crossed, so your current trend in posting in this thread must be questioned.

Basically, you've given us nothing. Nothing but your "word", which in reality, is nothing. Unlike the twisted and somewhat juvenile characterization of the BOI you seem to hold, this place is for FACTS, and PROOF, and REASON. You've offered us none of those. How can you possibly be mad at anyone for disagreeing with you when you've completely disregarded the BOI with every post you've made in this thread?

I mean, we all know what this is... sour grapes, princess gets "laid off" and can't take it, decides to launch an all-out offensive on former employer... not because it's necessary, but just because she's that kind of person (based on her former posts). It's pretty transparent at this point.

A picture, an email... anything? If not, the time has come for you to STOP POSTING.

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

i am no longer interested in that topic. i have chosen another future path. wich is if i do get back into buying snakes to breed at some point im only interested in buying paradox ball pythons i have found myself to be oddly attracted to them and how unique they are. i now realize there will be no possitive outcome to buying deformed animals. it would only cost me more money. i am trying to sell my baby rats when they wean but i will be making probably just enough to pay the cost of gas and cats are free nowadays so there is really no point in that.

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

btw it is a vet and my typing is usually not bad unless im pissed off. have fun posting to others because you are all ignorant self opinionated people who are not open to others information so i will no longer be giving my information or being a part of your bickering. this has gone so far off topic it is soooo rediculous. you all are pathetic. do you not have your own lives to tend to that you have to sit on a computer and point out peoples faults or what doesnt seem acceptable to you. look at your own fault... you have some and if you say you dont then your just lying to yourself and others

 

[Mister Internet]

i am no longer interested in that topic. i have chosen another future path. wich is if i do get back into buying snakes to breed at some point im only interested in buying paradox ball pythons i have found myself to be oddly attracted to them and how unique they are. i now realize there will be no possitive outcome to buying deformed animals. it would only cost me more money. i am trying to sell my baby rats when they wean but i will be making probably just enough to pay the cost of gas and cats are free nowadays so there is really no point in that.

NO. ONE. CARES.

Seriously, how on Earth can your brain process the above thoughts as even remotely related to this discussion?

Proof. Now. Or just stop. That's all. You're acting like a little drama queen who's a troublemaker and probably still living at home, used to having life her way, so I'm not optimistic that you'll actually bow out of this discussion with your integrity mostly non-intact, but hey, here's hoping.

You're not special... your "word" is not special... your situation is not special... you need to stop unless you can prove the things you're talking about.

 

[[email protected]]

you are right, age doesn't matter but someone who is as smart as you claim to be should understand that claims like this NEED evidence to support it and calling people and ignorant because they won't listen to you is short sighted on your part. Are we really going to sell to you if you stand here and insult us? Are we going to buy from you after insulting us?

yes you said you didn't have and reptiles now but you said you wanted to be a breeder, eventually you are going to need to start buying snakes again and if you came here to do it in the future we could simply look your name up and read this wonderful thread that you have started.

think things through. if the situation was truly horrible your camera would have been out on day one and have made your accusations known on here that very same day. But you needed the money so you waited until after the fact that you no longer worked there? That makes it ok to spill the beans now that you don't have a job to lose? you were there for how long? would it have made a diff if you took pics sooner instead of making the excuse, i was going to do it on mon..

by the way i am not much older than you are, haven't been registered as long as you have but i already understand how things are done here in the BOI. I would recommend that next time you make a complaint make sure you have e-mails and/or photos as the case warrants, it would make everything so much more believable.

 

[bradleymoore]

btw it is a vet and my typing is usually not bad unless im pissed off. have fun posting to others because you are all ignorant self opinionated people who are not open to others information so i will no longer be giving my information or being a part of your bickering. this has gone so far off topic it is soooo rediculous. you all are pathetic. do you not have your own lives to tend to that you have to sit on a computer and point out peoples faults or what doesnt seem acceptable to you. look at your own fault... you have some and if you say you dont then your just lying to yourself and others

you want us to read your concerns about a business on the BOI, but then you degrade us for giving our facts about your behavior? then you tell us to tend to our lives and not point out faults? why'd you post this if it wasn't intended to be read? we're all pathetic, yet you're the one who can't hold a job.

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

being laid off happens all the time for reasons the employee cant control. mine happened to be my schedule. all i intended was to inform people what i witnessed not get off topic in a big argument back and forth about my veiws etc. this is my last post as it is not important anymore. i told you what i witnessed... take the information or leave it. if you do happen to do business with them and end up with dead or a couple deformed beardies all i have to say is "i told you so"

 

[[email protected]]

being laid off happens all the time for reasons the employee cant control. mine happened to be my schedule. all i intended was to inform people what i witnessed not get off topic in a big argument back and forth about my veiws etc. this is my last post as it is not important anymore. i told you what i witnessed... take the information or leave it. if you do happen to do business with them and end up with dead or a couple deformed beardies all i have to say is "i told you so"

then at least when we post on the BOI about it we will have e-mails and photos to show that it arrived DOA or sick.

 

[Elizabeth Minton]

also there are plenty of other places to buy ball pythons from. this isnt the only site and there are breeders in my town who have reputible good business and are very kind to people and also i have a few connections though friends. im not saying everyone on here is ignorant. there is a humungous amount of people who are and then a large handlful who arnt ignorant. goodnight

 

[Mister Internet]

also there are plenty of other places to buy ball pythons from. this isnt the only site and there are breeders in my town who have reputible good business and are very kind to people and also i have a few connections though friends. im not saying everyone on here is ignorant. there is a humungous amount of people who are and then a large handlful who arnt ignorant. goodnight

Yep, I'm still going to go with "spoiled child still living at home" ... man, I wish I could go back to the days when everyone was wrong just because I said so. I feel like my youth was wasted on me not knowing how smart I was!

You still haven't answered the question of: why should anyone take your word for anything? And why don't you realize that your timing and procedure have irreparably tainted your credibility vis-a-vis this thread?

Ah well...

 

[jdshscja]

we are talking about elizabeth's animals, or former animals, because one of the big things she's bringing up about this business that is bothering her are disfigured animals being for sale.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=180634

so yes, it does have significance here considering it's one of the topics up for discussion.

She specifically states in that thread, that the animals she would take in would only be sold to friends and family. She further says that they would never be bred and any of the friends and family must agree to that, as well as to never resell the animals.

She claims in this thread that the company was BREEDING deformed animals and keeping them in a bad environment. These are two very different things, so maybe you should actually read what you are using to refute her next time.

As far as some other people that seem to be using this thread to simply attack her, it's pointless and makes you look no better than her.

The facts are simple. She is making claims and has no proof. She only brought this forward after being fired/laid off. I think most people see this as a former employee getting a bit of revenge. However, noone has proof she is lying either, so all this back and forth is pointless.

Take what she said for what it's worth, make up your own mind and move on.

 

[deborahbroadus]

She specifically states in that thread, that the animals she would take in would only be sold to friends and family. She further says that they would never be bred and any of the friends and family must agree to that, as well as to never resell the animals.
Take what she said for what it's worth, make up your own mind and move on.

Another "give them the benefit of the doubter." Because she stated it, it must be true. Ummm, I see how that works...

Some seem to need to read the definition of "attack." IMO, no one is "attacking" her, but some of you are posting just to be posting and not to try and get any facts out that can help the matter go one way or another; hence my asking for a class schedule which the rest of you wanna-be Sherlocks couldn't see the reason for. Asking questions and stating opinions is NOT attacking. If anything, I see that Liz got some courage from the few that assumed they knew a class schedule was private information so took the initiative NOT to show it. and decided to go on the offensive.

Elizabeth, I doubt Shadera was posting because of any previous transactions between you two. But I think that it's pretty indicative of YOUR own character that such a thought would be one of the first to cross your mind, that goes for anyone else here that continues to impute motives on anyone posting in this thread. Only Elizabeth's motives are in question, and again IMO, the rest is OT.

Regular posters posted to try and find out if there was any truth to her claims; we stated opinions on her EXCUSES and continued to ask for something to back up her statements. Trashing a business on the BOI is SERIOUS..a lot of businesses have been hurt with baseless accusations.

FYI posting a class schedule is not exactly PRIVATE information. All she needed to do was block out her SS number and address. She would have had to give the people hiring her a class schedule, and most of people hiring like paperwork and evidence to back up statements.