BEWARE of Jason SWEIGART @Classic Dums!!

[evansnakes]

Something for Gilbert to thing about

Gilbert, I watch the kingsnake classifieds ball python section closely as do many people who have money invested in ball pythons. Knowledge is crucial with any substantial investment. I had a funny conversation with a friend today about you. We had noticed that you have had that female albino ball that you bought from Bob Clark on the site for sale for a long time now. In that time many people have sold many albinos, mostly at higher prices than yours and you have even dropped your price. So I did some asking around and it turns out that some potential buyers that read your add went elsewhere to buy a similar animal for more money, some from big names some from unknowns, but all because they had either read threads about you here or they had heard about you from somebody who had. As predicted, you have made yourself out to be quite a villain with posts like this stupid attack on Jason. You need to act your age and stop this crap before you get to the point where you will never be able to return from.

Now you can feel free to attack me all you want and post all the lies and slander that you feel you need to in order to make yourself out to be a victim here but all that I am doing is once again trying to show you that your miserable behavior is getting you in a very deep hole.

To Rich, this is proof of the expanding influence of your site in a very positive way. Evan Stahl

 

[Jim@SW]

Just how many people think it is sad that this could go on for 15 pages. For waht is worth I have known Jason for three years and fid his rodents to be as good as they come. By the way for for the nude picture people Chris is a hottie. Everyone should come to the shows and buy from jason just to see her!

Hope that gets me a discount on my next order!

Well I have cages to clean, and animals to feed

Thanks Jim Stelpflug
SW Reptiles

 

[Adam Block]

I'm sure his rodents are nice. Chad Martin produces the best feeders I've ever bought. You should at least give the credit to the right person Jim.

 

[Jim@SW]

Adam

If someone was to tell you on a sunny day that the sun was out. Would you agree with them?

I have purchased rodents in my 20 years of the pet hobby from many people. I am just saying that I like Jason rodents.

You know Adam, I think I may have been buying rodents when you were still pissing your pants.

I am getting sick of you adding your two cents worth on everyones posts, and I am sure that many others are also.

Ever wonder why you get kicked out of things? or why people do not return your calls?

Adam try something new? Get a job

Jim Stelpflug

 

[Classic Dum's]

Ok Christine a couple points here

YOU however, just proved to me that kingsnake does NOT care about its members in any way.

I am not affilited with Ksnake in any way shape or form, just simply a user.

You have also made it clearly obvious that Kingsnake.com is actually in fear of my site, which was never my intent.

I seriously have my doubts about that however you would have to ask Jeff about that. In the mean time though I think its safe to say you can deflate your ego.

Now as far as the email is there a point to that? Or are you just rambling on. Back in the beginging of this thread someo0ne said I ws going to get the rambling of a lifetime boy are they ever correct LOL.................oh oh wait I see!!!!!! it says kingsnake.com in the signature area of my email..........is that it .........is that it?????? if so shame on me.......bad Jason.......bad Jason......Ill bet Im the first person in all the world to put one of my favorite websites in the sginature area of my emails. I am so ashamed of myself you finally got me. I hope that wasnt your last straw.

You know I havnt done this in a while but your post reminds me of some lyrics from a song, not everything in the song fits you just some"I met an old cowboy....I saw the look in his eyes....something tells me hes been here before cause experiance makes you wise........But sometime I feel like Im beating a dead horse
"Yup if you guessed G-N-R Dead horse, you got it!
Now as far as the rest........yyyyyaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Someone wake me if he says anything new and interesting please.

You should at least give the credit to the right person Jim.

Shows how much you know about me, Jim has never bought a single rodent produced by Chad!!!! So yes he is giving credit to the right person! All the rodents he gets from me are bagged not vacuum sealed. Now come on Adam are you going to post this stuff ya got on me or continue lieing about how you owe no one from TX $500 a debt that is well over a yr old.

 

[Adam Block]

Very telling responce Jim!

 

[Darin Chappell]

I've probably gotten into it with most of the main protagonists in this thread, so I've tried to just stay out of this all together. However, I will say this one thing: Jim Stepflug is one of the really good guys in the business. Great animals, great customer service, and he has never lied to me.

That's more than I can say for a whole lot of others in this industry/business/hobby. I think Jim was simply stating his experience with Jason, and he shouldn't be called into question for that. It's klind of what the BOI was designed to register ... the good AND the bad from all veiwpoints.

 

[Stardust]

Bringing up a nude picture sent a year ago? What does that have to do with this thread or even reptiles for that matter?
How pathetically low.

 

[C. Reynolds]

Jason, apparently you are incapable of civility.

Ok Christine a couple points here I am not affilited with Ksnake in any way shape or form, just simply a user. I seriously have my doubts about that however you would have to ask Jeff about that. In the mean time though I think its safe to say you can deflate your ego.

Christine huh? If you cannot even remember my name is CHRISTIAN, then perhaps you don't recall the chat transcript that well either... as for deflating my ego, perhaps the reason I say he has something to fear is due to the fact that mt sitename has been censored, AFTER I was told I could put my site in my taglines by PHChristie!!! (not to mention I was never informed I had done anything wrong)

Now as far as the email is there a point to that? Or are you just rambling on. Back in the beginging of this thread someo0ne said I ws going to get the rambling of a lifetime boy are they ever correct LOL.................oh oh wait I see!!!!!! it says kingsnake.com in the signature area of my email..........is that it .........is that it?????? if so shame on me.......bad Jason.......bad Jason......Ill bet Im the first person in all the world to put one of my favorite websites in the sginature area of my emails. I am so ashamed of myself you finally got me. I hope that wasnt your last straw.

No, I am not rambling on, So far I have been very concise and logical in response to your often insulting posts towards me (see the next quote for proof). I have provided both the proof you required of the chat transcript and have also provided an email sent to you (which you never responded to BTW) stating exactly what happened and that while I may have been disillusioned and insulted by your actions, that you were still welcome on my site (which is more than Jeff offered to many peope on KS)

You know I havnt done this in a while but your post reminds me of some lyrics from a song, not everything in the song fits you just some"I met an old cowboy....I saw the look in his eyes....something tells me hes been here before cause experiance makes you wise........But sometime I feel like Im beating a dead horse
"Yup if you guessed G-N-R Dead horse, you got it!
Now as far as the rest........yyyyyaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Someone wake me if he says anything new and interesting please.

Again I offer up evidence that proves you are not to be trusted (which was the basis of this thread, I do believe) and you come back with what? Song Lyrics? I am a professional businessman and have remained so through this entire thread while you continue to accuse me of extorsion and other foul deeds. My original reason for posting is that I was dragged into this thread by a third party posting about your litte domain name "joke" and you proceeded to spread lies and accusations as to my intent without even offering up any proof. In return I have now offered up 2 documents proving that you are indeed accusing me falsely(at the very least confused) , and therfore proving that initial poster of this thread had a valid reason to open this BOI on you.

I have not resorted to calling you names, I have not insulted you by using your name incorrectly, and I have not offered up anything but factual, logical evedince while you throw about baseless accusations, and avoid the truth by refusing to admit it exists!

So for the last time, I put forth to the members of this community that based on both your previous actions, and your actions in this thread, that you are untrustworthy and if someone should have dealings with you, they should watch their back, cross their t's and dot their i's because from what I have seen you are neither professional or even have the common courtesy to carry on a civil conversation.

-Christian Reynolds

 

[Adam Block]

Christian, you need to understand how this board works. People who understand it can turn any thread around on anybody because people who are not in the wrong feel compelled to defend things being said about them.

Take a huge hint from what the quilty people do. Jason knows he's in the wrong and lying and since he has no way of defending it he doesn't comment. Why? Because his silence leaves doubt and that's much better then what would happen if he spoke.

Use what the pros do, the people who can work this board, Jason, Ritchie, Seamus, they all do the exact same thing in the exact same way. Once you catch on it's easy to not let them trap you.

Case in point. If I didn't say this right here Jason would try to pull me in deeper. He would keep bringing up the money I owe Chad and try to pull me into an argument. This would then take attention off the fact that he lied about his feeders. It would take attention off the fact that he won't say if he has criminal charges and would then turn the focus on me.

Ritchie, seems to have a fairly unhealthy obsession with me and my wife as oddly he's still thinking about and posting her photo at porn sites. He would further bring up things from last year while he hasn't noticed that those threads are done and over with.

Seamus, he just can't seem to get over the NERD issue, Kevin dones't care enough to respond but why should he when Seamus is still so worried about it.

Let it go buddy, you CAN NOT WIN! It has to be enough for you to know you're in the right!

All in all, work the system don't let is work you.

 

[Classic Dum's]

Christine huh? If you cannot even remember my name is CHRISTIAN, then perhaps you don't recall the chat transcript that well either...

LOL did I miss spell your name LOL

also provided an email sent to you (which you never responded to BTW )

Liar!!!!!! You posted my responce below or did you already forget that?

-----Original Message-----
From: Classic Dum's [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Message from obsoleta about http://forum.kingsnake.com/boa/messages/132940.html


What point would that be?


[email protected] wrote:

Hi Jason,

I just waned to thank you for proving my point.

This message was sent by the user: obsoleta





Jason and Danica

there it is, my responce to your email qouted from your post on the prior page, that you editited your origanal email into. and the link that shouldnt be there.



Christian(better? lol) Dude this whole issue is the same to me as Adam Block, Gilbert and this thread a huge joke. Its been what a year and your still losing sleep over this and whinning about it? Sorry your such a sore sport. In the future youd best not discuss your pranks in public places just like this one it can blow up in your face. However next time if you do discuss it dont be such a poor sport when someone ruins your joke, move on.

 

[Classic Dum's]

Hey Christain atleast through all this ya made a friend in Adam, not that I would want him for a freind LOL.

Case in point. If I didn't say this right here Jason would try to pull me in deeper. He would keep bringing up the money I owe Chad and try to pull me into an argument. This would then take attention off the fact that he lied about his feeders. It would take attention off the fact that he won't say if he has criminal charges and would then turn the focus on me.

Adam Adam Adam, god I love when you post you are so much more fun LOL. No Adam see the whole thing about the money you owe AND LIED ABOUT is it shows you credibilty, which is abosolutly NONE! I never lied about my rodents Adam it is simply none of your buinsess how my buisness is ran. No Adam I dont have any criminal chrges against me, so now that I have answered your question will you post what ya got already I am looking forward to having some fun with it even though I know there is nothing coming.

Ritchie, seems to have a fairly unhealthy obsession with me and my wife as oddly he's still thinking about and posting her photo at porn sites.

No Adam that again goes to show you credibilty, what kind of person sends naked pictures of their wife out??? Someone who is mentally ill. So yes it is relevant.

Ritchie, seems to have a fairly unhealthy obsession with me and my wife as oddly he's still thinking about and posting her photo at porn sites. He would further bring up things from last year while he hasn't noticed that those threads are done and over with.

No Adam You are the one who brought Nerd up in the other thread. He only stated the facts as they are that you need to drop it as you cant even prove there was a dead ball python. You couldnt even prove there was a dead one last year when you gave nerd the ultimatume to give ya something for free or get slandered. Had you not brought it up Seamus proablly would have never even commented to ya.

Adam see all your upset about is you continuelly get tangled into your own lies. Why not stop lieing? It would make life a lot simpler ya know I mean..........ahhh never mind trying to speak logic to you is about as worth while as trying to train a rock to roll over.

 

[Adam Block]

Jason, are you talking? I mean cause I see you're saying things but I can't tell if you're cutting and pasting all your old threads or just typing new ones that look the same?

Is there a naked picture of my wife going around? I've never seen a picture showing anything that you couldn't see from a woman on a beach in a bathing suit. Maybe it's time you all worry more about your wives and less about mine?

Funny how my business is your business but your business is nobody elses business. First you got saved threads that are missing, then you wish you did. First you don't have Chad's mice pictured on your site then it's nobodies business. You're getting in deep buddy.

I owe Chad money, never said I didn't. You also never asked if I owed Chad money. Hey, you been talking about how you're going to have him come in here and post about it. I'll call you out on that. I'd like to hear you say something like "it's not worth his time so I won't contact him over it" or "why don't we leave Chad out of it" or whatever lame reason you have to get out of being caught looking stupid again when he doesn't come save you.

Jason, you're in over your head, I know how it feels cause I was there once. I know what you're doing cause I did it. Show us all you're a better man then I was and just shut up. You can't find a way out of all your BS so stop trying.

 

[C. Reynolds]

Christian(better? lol) Dude this whole issue is the same to me as Adam Block, Gilbert and this thread a huge joke. Its been what a year and your still losing sleep over this and whinning about it? Sorry your such a sore sport. In the future youd best not discuss your pranks in public places just like this one it can blow up in your face. However next time if you do discuss it dont be such a poor sport when someone ruins your joke, move on.

I am not a "sore sport". You began this by calling me an extortionist, I have since proven that you are the liar, end of story, have a nice life, don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. You could actually learn a lot from the honest and civil way I handled myself against your slanderous accusations.

I cannot believe that you run a business and STILL continue to degrade yourself by resorting to petty namecalling and outright untruths. You continue to say I have either edited or altered the proof I submitted, and now you continue your slander by calling me a counterfieter! What do I need to do, find the other people in the chat room and have them come in and verify that it was the actual transcript?

Considering there is nothing on your end to the contrary, other than a bald faced lie of an accusation (show me proof!) I am content to let your actions speak for themself and bow out gracefully. (which I can do since I never stooped to your level to begin with) You on the otherhand have a little bit of work to do in order to prove that you are a trustworthy person, where I can leave here knowing that I have been civil to you and still have the integrity I came in with. Faire thee well!

-Christian Reynolds

P.S. Adam, I don't know you but thanks for the reality check!

 

[Chris Red]

This is still going on.....

someone needs to go down to The Harrdware Store and get some NUTS!!!

.....and you know if it's you!!!

 

[Chris Red]

sorry...sorry

only one "R" in hardware

 

[WebSlave]

as for deflating my ego, perhaps the reason I say he has something to fear is due to the fact that mt sitename has been censored, AFTER I was told I could put my site in my taglines by PHChristie!!! (not to mention I was never informed I had done anything wrong)

Christian,

A long while ago, JeffB himself told me that I could have posted links to the BOI within my tagline on postings made within the forums. I did not take him up on it, however. I had a feeling I was being baited, and I just avoided walking into that trap. So he had no other choice but to find something I did on my own site in order to censor FaunaClassifieds. In my opinion, you would have gotten banned/censored eventually, no matter what you did or did not do.

JeffB does not fear your site, specifically. But he is definitely afraid of something....

 

[Copperheadman]

I don't know if he fears it or not,but he must have felt the sting when almost all of his regulars on the old FC forum left him,and didn't come back, And now others from other forums are starting to pull their advertising with KS and taking it elsewhere.


Glen Chapman

 

[Adam Block]

Hey Christian, no trouble. I have a really tough time with this site and I think I owe Rich about $20,000 for the things it has taught me.

It's very easy for me to get wrapped up in the negitive portion of the BOI are very hard for me to walk away when I feel like something isn't fair.

I guess the only thing I need to make me feel better is the fact that some people in here don't change and I think having to live as themselves is punishment enough.

This thread almost got me going. I walked away when I felt I was going to step too deep into it. I woke up my little girl and her and my wife sat and watched Holes. Great movie, great distraction and I promised myself I wouldn't check the BOI for at least two days. It worked! Ritchie by his and the webslaves own admission is here to get you worked up and rattle your cage. Something that only works once

Point is, just walk away and remember it doesn't matter. This garbage side of the BOI is all water on a ducks back for me. It's fun to challange eachother and enjoyable the same way a good game of Risk is but when you start to take it personal you need to walk away.

Webslave, you'll never give people a 48 hour cooling off period! That gives far too much time for people to remind themselve putting their foot in their mouth's a bad idea. What fun would the BOI be without that?

 

[GB2000]

While I am not going to join into this looooong "little" argument (other than to post this)...since Christian was accused of lying and if you'd read the chat transcript he posted, you'd notice I was in his chat that night, I just want to say that everything said in the chat transcript (while I was in there) was indeed in its full, unaltered form.

I also do recall reading some stuff about Jason "trolling" the boards at FieldHerpers.com, but I can't cite any specific examples so I'll just leave that subject be.

Josh Blackshire
GB2000