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Beware of Jeane Best & Wendy Childs

Chamco, have you ever heard that you are judged by the company you keep? I cannot believe that you still have the audacity to pseudo defend Wendy (albeit it you chastised her in private, um ok), but you still come down on Eric in an indirect way.

Face it, you and Jeanne and Wendy are friends. It's very apparent by your posts, by your lack of desire to explain your relationship, so quit coming to this thread acting like you are in control of a bunch of marionettes.

At least with Belcher you had a very small leg in which to stand on. You have nothing here and EVERYONE, including potential customers, are watching. The only thing more transparent then what took place at the Childs house is your behavior.

Griz
 
Reptayls said:
Erik,
While you are talking with them, you can file a complaint too.....

~~~~~~~~~~
Morgana Calvert :hehe:

Yelp! I just sent them an email with the WHOLE story in it and when they respond I will let you know if they have the ad or not still!!

Hues1: That is VERY interesting! Looks like more and more cases with them keep coming up! Thanks for posting!!!

Thanks Erik
 
Hues1 said:
Back on April 4/28/2006 I received a phone call from a Scott Jackson...Scott was doing a investigation on Wendy and Jeane for FRAUD of all things...imagine that. Scott got my name and number from doing a google search on Jeane Best and Wendy Childs which lead him to the thread I started about them here at Fauna.

Turns out Wendy was selling a car on ebay that she had did not have a title too and which could not be registered in any state. They obtained this vehicle under fraudulent pretenses and the vehicle had a lien on it. But instead of trying to satisfy the lien or simply returning the vehicle which was obtained under false pretenses to begin with...they tried to sell it on ebay as a "Parts" car. Selling a vehicle with a lien in ANY state is ILLEGAL unless the purpose of the sale was to satisfy the lien and only with prior, instead...they had been hiding this vehicle from the recovery agents.

Sure sounds to me as if they were trying to put a little extra cash in their pockets at the expense of others.

Scott was retained by the originator of the lien/rightful owners of the vehicle and was gathering info for the district attorneys office in Spokane. He can be contacted at [email protected] or via his website at www.iiafirst.com


The company you keep Jim, the company you keep......
 
Who the heck is chamco to hold anyone to HIS standard anyway?

Who put you in charge chamco? I missed a lot while I was on vacation, didn't I?

I was wondering if there was a certain number of times you felt were necessary to repeat that YOU would have done different, in a situation that has NOTHING what so ever to actually do with YOU, before you stop trying to force your version of moral and ethical sense? I ask only because so far, it seems you just keep repeating it in this thread, yet in others I've read that did not involve friends of yours, YOUR disappointment did not seem to be paramount. As it certainly seems to be here.

Are you and Erik close or do you feel this bad for anyone who does not do as you would?

Erik, in my opinion, and not at all humbly either, I say you owe nutjobs #1 and #2 NOTHING.

I'd also just quit responding to this thread at all. It's ending poorly for the nutjob broads and that will be testimony to future buyers IF they manage to stay in business.

Have you checked with animal control in Spokane to see if the animals and insects they are keeping are allowed to be there?

Just a rhetorical question, in view of my just prior advice.
 
Hues1 said:
Back on April 4/28/2006 I received a phone call from a Scott Jackson...Scott was doing a investigation on Wendy and Jeane for FRAUD of all things...imagine that. Scott got my name and number from doing a google search on Jeane Best and Wendy Childs which lead him to the thread I started about them here at Fauna.

Turns out Wendy was selling a car on ebay that she had did not have a title too and which could not be registered in any state. They obtained this vehicle under fraudulent pretenses and the vehicle had a lien on it. But instead of trying to satisfy the lien or simply returning the vehicle which was obtained under false pretenses to begin with...they tried to sell it on ebay as a "Parts" car. Selling a vehicle with a lien in ANY state is ILLEGAL unless the purpose of the sale was to satisfy the lien and only with prior, instead...they had been hiding this vehicle from the recovery agents.

Sure sounds to me as if they were trying to put a little extra cash in their pockets at the expense of others.

Scott was retained by the originator of the lien/rightful owners of the vehicle and was gathering info for the district attorneys office in Spokane. He can be contacted at [email protected] or via his website at www.iiafirst.com
Now isn't that a amazing turn of events :rofl: Wendy/ Jeane seems like you have a major life of crime going on.......Sux to be you :rofl:
 
Thanks for your post Alex.

Seems like all kinds of interesting tidbits keep finding their way here. Somehow I get the feeling we dont even know about 1/10 of the illegal and unethical things these people are involved in. At least they are exposed here and maybe a few people will be able to avoid getting entangled in their lying and thieving ways.
 
EriksReptiles said:
LoL....

I cant empty that account as thats how I pay for all my geckos that I am buying... But Im not worried about a charge back of any sort since I already talked to paypal and gave them ALL the facts and they looked at my TOS and the tracking number and they said that they wont give her money back since its her fault...

Thanks Erik
Unofrtunately however, if the bank that issued the losers' credit card does agree to the chargeback then PayPal will follow suit and charge you. They surely won't eat it or fight for you.
 
Jim O said:
Unofrtunately however, if the bank that issued the losers' credit card does agree to the chargeback then PayPal will follow suit and charge you. They surely won't eat it or fight for you.

I was made aware that if someone issues a charge back the bank will imediatly give them their money back but wont take yours until you contact them within 48 hours or so and if you dont contact them then they give them their money back... I will 100% be trying everything and they will not be getting their money back.......

I have no problem fighting for myself if it comes to that... I dont mind going to court as I know 100% that I will win!

Thanks Erik
 
Hey Folks !!

A couple of questions or points worth responding to, in no particular order:

Dennis. There is no excuse for lies, half-truths, etc. All have been exposed in this thread multiple times, and completely dissected. In many threads, I often have only a specific interest that is not being addressed, so that is where I go. How many people need to call someone a scumbag before we have a consensus?

Jim O. Sometimes Sammy is reason for more laughter than he knows. Thanks for pointing that out.

Sam M. I could have tried to discuss all in PM, but then wouldn't the same apply to all here? There'd be no thread. While I was critical, I did not call Erik a scumbag, etc. He started the thread, and while my posts may have been contrary to his views, they were relevant with the transaction as he described it. I have complimented Erik as well. We often write for the larger audience. Can't do that with a PM, and limited time. I may be alone in posters here that he has a bit of culpability, generic to who the customer was, but its what I think. Also, you ask about the difference between PM'ing Wendy and Jeane vs. doing likewise to Erik. I had, and have, no prior relationship with Erik as a customer. I believe I am no different here in that regard, as I think many who post here trade PM's with topics with whom they have had some relationship with. There's been plenty of critical advice in my PM's, emails, etc. I'm not a miracle worker though. If Erik had interest, I would gladly talk to him about whatever concerns he had. If that is a concern Erik, PM me for a phone number.

Griz. You don't know the company I keep. I have business relationships with many. I have counsel and advice relationships with a few of those customers who want to continue to communicate with me, and to them I pull no punches for they are volunteers. They can stop emailing me at any time. The company I keep are my friends, and they are none of the above. I believe you referred to the Allen Belcher thread. Good analogy, and I thank you for seeing it. Never have met the man. Had no clue as to who he was before I became involved in that thread. Talked to him on the phone 3 times because of my participation there. Never bought from him. Never sold to him, even to this day. I was consistently accused of having a "hidden" relationship with him by some in this forum who don't understand principal.

Wes. I could care less. Sometimes you're a humorous bag of hot air, but hot air just the same. Time's running out huh ?

Lastly. I thank those who asked legitimate questions without the cheap shots. Even though many here will disagree with some or all of my positions, its good discourse when we can get beyond the passionate stupidity. A lot of you with whom I may disagree bring a good mind and logic to the discussion, and its worth writing here when it can be done without the silliness. Take note Sammy :)
 
EriksReptiles said:
I was made aware that if someone issues a charge back the bank will imediatly give them their money back but wont take yours until you contact them within 48 hours or so and if you dont contact them then they give them their money back... I will 100% be trying everything and they will not be getting their money back.......

I have no problem fighting for myself if it comes to that... I dont mind going to court as I know 100% that I will win!

Thanks Erik
Ahh...but the bank's transaction was with PayPal, not with you. And PayPal is notorious for simply passing the charge back on and letting the seller hang out to dry. They will leave it for you to fight.

On another note, the post attributed to Jeanne above may well be more of their BS and not have anything to do with reality.
 
Chameleon Company said:
Take note Sammy :)

Jim do you even begin to realize the depths of your hypocrisy?

Knowing you, probably not.
 
Hues1 said:
......(snip)
Turns out Wendy was selling a car on ebay that she had did not have a title too and which could not be registered in any state. They obtained this vehicle under fraudulent pretenses and the vehicle had a lien on it. But instead of trying to satisfy the lien or simply returning the vehicle which was obtained under false pretenses to begin with...they tried to sell it on ebay as a "Parts" car. Selling a vehicle with a lien in ANY state is ILLEGAL unless the purpose of the sale was to satisfy the lien and only with prior, instead...they had been hiding this vehicle from the recovery agents.
(snip)
Alex Hues

We are almost hysterical with laughter here.... :rofl:

Just 20 minutes before this was posted, my husband turned and said to me:
"" She can buy anything and re-sell it as hers, eh? Try buying a "Chevrolet" ; then replacing the emblem with "Jeane"; and re-selling it. You'll wind up with GM on your doorstep. ""

Thanks Alex, we needed a good laugh!

Does anyone want to volunteer to send Jeane and Wendy some home-baked cookies while they are in lockup? I would, but I really need new reading glasses and I might pick up Exlax instead of Toll House...... :reddevil:

~~~~~~~~~~
Morgana Calvert
 
Sammy,
Sometimes I have to go many days without touching bottom .... if it ain't deep water, its tall weeds. You've been a little too easy to provoke lately. Hope all is OK.
 
spokanelizardlady said:
I VOIDED TOM OF ANY GUARANTEE. Hence we were able to get the package within 7 hours shipped to Jeane work. And it was NOT within violation of any of the USPS TOS. In fact he didnt mark the package at all if you read his emails, other than the red inspected tape..The temps were 58 - 61 degress. No cool pack was requested, promised, or needed. Ventelation was all I requested. I DID NOT make any such agree ment with Erik.

Hence they all arrived perfect. THANKS AGAIN TOM!
Lies, Lies, Lies, Lies said the Thompson Twins.

Then why were you telling someone on reptileauctions (I believe) that USPS no longer accepts live animals because they have a contract with a shipper that doesn't allow live? and stating that jeane works for them so you should know? Which one is the lie? This one or the above one? Not that you will answer.

Since the package contained live animals, the fact that it wasn't labeled "at all" is a federal violation.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone "damage" themselves so clearly with every post they make. I mean even the really bad guys have occassional lucid posts.
 
Chameleon Company said:
IMO, the cacophony here is already overwhelming without me in that regard. :cool:
Yet that has NEVER ever stopped you from being the biggest "contributer", or maybe most frequent poster would be a better statement than contributer, in half the BOI threads.

To continually question the OP's ethics, when every post by the "thompson twins" is just more and more lying, unethical garbage, and supposedly only addressing it privately, instead of publicly on the BOI as is your usual modus operandi shows the most bias of any threads you have been involved in. That's saying a lot. To both counts; bias, and involved threads.
 
Here is 1 of many replies that I have between myself and the reptibid webmaster. I don't think her name is mentioned in the letter but if the link still goes back to my old post it will be in there. Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:23:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Timothy Defrees" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Reptile Auctions - New Contact Message
To: [email protected]

This gal just won't stop! http://www.reptileauctions.com/auctiondetails.php?id=12701

[email protected] wrote: Oh yes her. Let me guess, she is telling you how its illegal to ship
via USPS?

Thanks,

Webmaster

P.S. It is not illegal to ship lizards and turtles via USPS.




From your friend Tim ,in the Land of 10,000 Lakes
 
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Timothy Defrees" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Reptile Auctions - New Contact Message
To: [email protected]

I erased the questions not thinking that you might not have seen them yet. The abusive user is : Spokanelizardlady , I'm sure she will leave more messages. I will be adding a few more animals to the auctions soon.

[email protected] wrote: When I view the auction I see no questions what so ever. Could you
please send
me the username of the offending user. Also when the text doesnt come up for
questions its usually cookie related. Set your cookies to medium and reboot
your computer.


Thanks,

Webmaster




From your friend Tim ,in the Land of 10,000 Lakes

Here is an earlier reply
 
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Timothy Defrees" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Reptile Auctions - New Contact Message
To: [email protected]

Yes , she had been hounding me every time I place an ad in the auction .Now I don't even put how I am shipping and her question is "How are you legally shipping these animals for $20.00?"
I called her on the phone last month and asked what her problem was and her mother got on the line and was trying to say that she works for usps and I am putting these animals in danger. All she is doing is ruining my chances of selling in the auction. Its bad enough that I have 2 negative feedbacks from a non paying customer. I have talked with several top named breeders that she deals with and none of them have anything good to say about Wendy.
[email protected] wrote: Oh yes her. Let me guess, she is telling you how its illegal to ship
via USPS?

Thanks,

Webmaster

P.S. It is not illegal to ship lizards and turtles via USPS.




From your friend Tim ,in the Land of 10,000 Lakes
 
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