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Bill Cagle Reptiles

Right on Webslave!!!  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Uh-oh, Bill!!!  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>
 
thanks webslave..its interesting to see the way a persons mind works.. <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
thanks for allowing the saga to move forward.
 
Ya know, Bill...I USED to have A LOT of respect and admiration for you, because of the class of herps you dealt in....but, I mean really....are you SERIOUSLY expecting people to continue to respect you with the way you present yourself to the public??? I can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that I am responsible for the sale of AT LEAST SIX of your snakes, because I was the one that recommended these folks to YOU! I must have been WAY TOO HIGH!! I can tell you this, though....I will NEVER recommend you again!! You've proven yourself to ME, at least....you have a good day!

Jason...I NEVER called you a liar??? All I did was to ask (ok, tell) you to watch your language and don't stoop to the level of the "competition"! Just act as your name implies?? CLASSIC!! ....Neil
 
Hey Jason,

You recently posted this in regrads to if Cagle had mites: "well no mites past or present to report"

Interesting, because earlier you posted this for Bill Cagle: "I GOT THE ANIMALS HOME, PUT THEM IN THE QUARANTINE BUILDING, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAD A FEW MITES."

Funny, these were the snakes that had IBD, which means they could have easily infected the whole building.

I think this says a lot for you and Cagle's character.

To best some this up, I will once again use your own words: "YOU'RE A LIAR"

Need I say more?

-Justin Hall
 
I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT IN NO WAY DO I TAKE THIS BOI SERIOUSLY, AND I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY FRIENDS ON HERE. UNFORTUNATELY KEN IS THE ONLY INTELLIGENT PERSON THAT HAS POSTED IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER. KEN YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, AND YOU HAVE EXPOSED ONE OF MY CHARACTER FLAWS! SOMETIMES I CHOOSE NOT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL. IN THE CASE OF THIS BOI, I THROW THE "PROFESSIONALISM" OUT THE WINDOW. I HAVE NOT BEEN TREATED PROFESSIONALLY NOR HAVE MY CUSTOMERS. MAYBE SOMEONE FORGOT HOW THIS THREAD STARTED. MR. CRAIG HULSEY STARTED THIS THREAD TO TELL EVERYONE ABOUT HIS PURCHASES FROM ME, AND THE PROFESSIONAL WAY I DO BUSINESS. UNFORTUNATELY A FEW OF THESE REGULARS ON HERE RUINED IT FOR MR. HULSEY! MR. HULSEY CALLED ME ALL THE WAY FROM ALASKA IN REGARDS TO THIS. HE WAS TREATED VERY UNPROFESSIONALLY, SO NOW I AM CHOOSING TO ACT VERY UNPROFESSIONAL. IF I OFFENDED YOU KEN, THEN TO YOU I APOLOGIZE. BUT TO THESE OTHERS THAT RUINED MR. HULSEY'S EXPERIENCE, I OFFER THEM NOTHING BUT A HARD TIME. YES, THIS MAY BE UNPROFESSIONAL ON MY PART, AND I APOLOGIZE TO ALL MY FRIENDS AND CUSTOMERS. BUT WHERE I COME FROM, WE STAND UP FOR OUR FRIENDS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KNOW THEY ARE IN THE RIGHT. I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, "RIGHT IS RIGHT, AND WRONG IS WRONG." THESE GUYS DID WRONG AND MR. HULSEY CALLED AND BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION, SO I WILL STAND UP AND DEFEND HIM EVEN IF IT MAKES ME LOOK UNPROFESSIONAL. I'M NOT TRYING TO WIN ANY KIND OF POPULARITY CONTEST, ESPECIALLY WITH THE REGULARS ON THIS SITE.
 
Cagle...I'm idot???....that's right , I guess  for ever dealing with you!!!
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">COME ON....... I KNOW A LOT MORE FOOLS OUT THERE BESIDES KIM AND TOM. WHERE DID YOU OTHER IDIOTS GO? </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

You're already here.....we don't need anymore...
To think...I defended your stupid @$$ in the past.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">SO I WILL STAND UP AND DEFEND HIM EVEN IF IT MAKES ME LOOK UNPROFESSIONAL.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

so you will defend him by calling for people to come and post? (even people who were avoiding the subject)
so you will defend him by asking all the "idiots" to come and post? (even the idiots who were avoiding you like the plague)
so you will defend him by starting a flame war?  (smart)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">MR. HULSEY CALLED ME ALL THE WAY FROM ALASKA IN REGARDS TO THIS. HE WAS TREATED VERY UNPROFESSIONALLY,</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Okay....one (1) person asked him one (1) question....
then everyone started arguing amongst themselves....
So who treated him "unproffesionally"? (no one....imo)
Who said something about "whinning"? (Billy Boy did)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT IN NO WAY DO I TAKE THIS BOI SERIOUSLY</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
that is why you were "whinning" about not being able to post


I admit...these fools could have handled it better.
But No one treated him unproffesionally.  They were unproffesional in handling the thread....but no one was directing their unproffesionalism towards Craig H.  (not on purpose anyway)

If you consider their unproffesional treatment of this thread as an unproffesional treatment towards Mr. Hulsey...
Then YOU TOO were unproffesional towards Mr. Hulsey.
Because YOU TOO were unproffesional in handling this thread.

Everyone owes Mr. Hulsey an apology...
INCLUDING YOU Mr. Cagle.



Mr. Hulsey....I was avoiding this discussion...but I could not help myself any longer....I had to add my 0.02.
So to you Mr. Hulsey...I apologize.....for disrespecting your thread and your good experience.
 
Justrin no I am not a lair obviously you havnt been folowing the other threads, your a day late on this one bud, but good call, but in any event I am going to go back to my movie, the recent one with John Travolta, anyone seen that yet? it looks pretty good
 
Bill, you are a true champion. More to the point, an insignificant and insipid fool. The feeling is mutual. You don't like us, and we can't stand you. Do you realize how unimportant you really are to us? Other than for comic relief that is. Where in this present thread was anything even remotely said to disrespect Craig Hulsey? Refer to page 2 of this topic. You will see where 2 of the posters here even thanked Craig and said all that matters is that he was happy with his transaction. These same 2 posters are in fact among the people you refer to as idiots. If Craig feels disrespected by that, then those are issues that HE has to deal with. He started this thread. Why hasn't he returned to it to tell his side and his feelings on being disrespected? Tell us Bill. Where was Craig attacked, you weak minded simpleton? Where in this thread is there a need for you to save, stick up for, or defend his honor? And why is it so far, only 2 people have even said anything remotely in your favor? Out of all your friends and customers, why only 2 are willing to speak up? Obviously no one takes you seriously either. In the reptile community, you are insignificant. You build yourself up to be more important than you truly are. This BOI influences more people than you seem to realize. Trust me. It is well known the extent of your unprofessionalism.  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>
 
I knew this time was coming, Ritchie. I've agreed with a lot of what you've said in the past. But not this time. At least in part. Your last post referred to us as fools. Not so. That we handled it unprofessionally. Not so. You of all people know that this board is open to all and open season on anyone. This whole flame war started after Alan asked a simple question. Then all he*l broke loose. The path had already been set. Jason and myself tried to carry it over to the General Discussion board. Where it belonged. But it was already too late. In regards to my posts, I have for the most part, tried to keep them tactful and professional. With a slip up now and then. But hey! That's what's great about this BOI. Not everyone has to or will agree with everyone else. Have a nice day!!!  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
 
I just wanted to thank everyone for the laughs!  Everyone should just end this one, Bill has done enough for himself without anyones help.  I personally don't know anyone responding to this thread, or the true idiot (Bill Cagle).  Bill, you don't think this board is serious???  Some posts people put here are quite humorous but what one posts does reflect them and only them.  Bill, you need to go back and talk to your father again and ask him how to be a man and also ask him to reiterate on the right and wrong thing.  I truly pitty fools like yourself that DON'T know right from wrong, but I love the magic of seeing people turning themselves into A$$es!  Keep up the good work!
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You build yourself up to be more important than you truly are.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

1. Joe "Puker" Polanco
2. Bill "Arrogant" Cagle


I am glad that I am no one....even in my own eyes I am no one...

Those who humble themselves shall be exalted....<-- where did I come upwith that one?  I know it came from somewhere...just forgot where.

Bill You were trying to "help" this thread.....WHOOPS !!! You did the exact opposite...

Can you quote where they were "unproffesional" towards Mr., Hulsey?-------I THOUGHT NOT

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">MR. HULSEY CALLED ME ALL THE WAY FROM ALASKA IN REGARDS TO THIS. HE WAS TREATED VERY UNPROFESSIONALLY,</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
So...did he say he was being treated unproffesionally?....
or did he say...hey people are talking about you?

Did you come to "defend" him?
or did you really come to defend your "good" (for a lack of a better term) name?
 
yes you are right.....
I did not mean to imply EVERYONE was a fool.  (or ANYONE for that matter) my apologies again

I was just using Bill's words....

i still think this whole thread could have been handled a little better....imo

but who am I to talk?  I am probably the most unprofessional guy around here...oh well

This did start as a good guy post....but somehow got turned around....

but anyway....glad you can disagree with me and be nice at the same time.....Thanks
 
I have been on a self imposed exile from the reptile community, especially the forums and boards, and Jason and Bill Cagle are two of the main reasons why...look back in the thread and see where the negativity and name calling first started....with Jason....who was proven to have gone off half cocked and without thinking, as well as just plain rude....which, if you're familiar with Jason, seems to be his modus operendi.....but,don't take my word for it...do a search and see what I mean....here and KS.....or maybe it has something to do with his apparant outright hatred for Fred....anywayz....how's that foot tasting, Jason?....any better than Bill Cagle's butt?....and as far as Mr.Cagle....his colors have been flying in rare form here lately, but some of us saw them a long time ago....'nuff said!
   Now, blast way guys!!....call me names and quote arcane lyrics at me....the more you post, the more you prove my point.
      Us herpers are something, ain't we?

    Sal Thomas

PS  one last thing: GO RAIDERS!!!
PPS OK, two: the Cowboys still suck!! (sorry, TC couldn't resist! LOL)
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">call me names</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
YOU RAIDER FAN YOU!!

I do not like the cowboys either....BUT I SURE DO LIKE THE CHEERLEADERS
 
Not a problem, Ritchie!!! It's all good.

One final thing: Y'all KNOW it's ALL about the Raiders!!! No matter where they are playing. And yes, the Cowboys still suck.
 
hmmmmmm ... well ok heres what i think .
Its like running rats out of a field on fire  with you Bill yes i was the one that replied to craigs Thread ,  i did make a comment on what good was , i also just simply asked if you had given him any background on his purchase  ( meaning did you tell him or for that matter tell any of your customers that bought snakes from you that there is a  possibility that they could have or may have been exposed to a potentially deadily disease. )Now saying that   ok follow me close here , i have no PHD in any kind of medicine background , i am not a vet , i am not even probably as knowledgable  as you are ( hard to beleive i retract that statement) in the snake world . I know IBD from what lil i know isnt airborne disease , but  what i do know are that mites feed on blood  right ? they have legs right they can travel a good distance to feed on other hosts right ? Now back  to you . How can you really perceive yourself to be so high and mighty to think that mites will not feed on other snakes ?  do you tell them they will be punished if they get on your snakes?actually you have no control of them yes you can treat them but can you kill the eggs??? uhm no not till they hatch . now when they hatch they do what ..?? LOOK FOR A HOST Now regardless of you quarintine procedures esp if there all in the same building ! can you gurantee that other  snakes were not infected? i dont think it is possible to say you can  so this brings up the point i was asking on Craigs post on you being a good guy .  if you didnt take the time to explain this to him and or other customers that have bought your snakes i can say with 100% assurity that thats not a good guy  in my book . now if had you told them that theres a chance the snakes could have possibly come in contact with mites  that may or may have not been on a snake that had IBD  then they may not have bought from you therefore you couldnt be saying how great a breeder you are . Now heres the fun part ... lol the BOI in my opinion is a very ewell thought out and informitive tool . Why you ask  because now people can see  what they cant see from you "screamer ads on kingsnake" the true Bill cagle far as you reffering to my father , well my son i can assure you my father taught more standards and morals the you could have ever learned from yours  no offense to cagle SR i cant hold you responsible 100% for your sons short comming with hiself. heres a lil what my father taught me Billy ,
1- treat everyone the way you want to be treated
2- when you are  right stand up for what you beleive in no matter what the costs
now far as a professional side
1- Always handle yourself with dignity ( that means if you say something dont be ashamed to say it again )
2-The way you carry yourself away from your buisness will  follow you to your job the next day ( meaning you always act like buisness 24 hrs a day when theres a chance your next customer is watching )

now im goin to end this  by saying yes i have been borderline on a few posts  and came close to going over on them but witheld against my own forsight of what it could hold against me in the future now Bill  i ll bet you are glad kingsnake doesnt have a BOI or would let this post go on there huh cause then  uhm customers would see  the man behind there purchase ... the one that calls his customers idiots... and less


now as i have stated way back in the start i did agree with fred that i was sorry that this became more but i am not sorry for what came of it , it was able to open eyes to how Bill cagles thinks of the  people he sells to , the pedastool he thinks he is on which right noe a snake he sell would have no problem climbing on with him ,  oh and to people who have bouight from him i hope all your snakes will be 100% healthy there intire lives ... but to Bill  thanks for posting the names on sold snales to new owners so i know who NOT  to buy from in the future ...
 
"who was proven to have gone off half cocked and without thinking" theres one big differance between you and I Sal I aint afraid to admit when I am wrong, you are, and when are you gonna give up on the Raidars they suck!!!!!!

Come on John a Raiders fan?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>  lol

on to more important things any  Alice In Chains on the BOI, I found out tonight that Layne Stanley died, they found him in his apt, their not sure of what he died of but that sucks, he was an awesome singer
 
Sorry to stray off topic for a second Webslave, but.......

Yes Jason. The mighty Oakland Raiders!!! Been a fan for ages now. I'm talking back in the days of Plunkett, Bilitnikoff, and other great warriors. All the way to today. A commitment to excellence baby!!!

Anyways guys..... I think this topic is dying down and coming to a close. We've all had our say. Even the Almighty Cagle. So let's all go kick back and play with our snakes!!!  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  *LOL*  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>  I think it's appropriate to say that enough is enough. Unless Mr. Wonderful blesses us with his useless banter once more. Ta-ta for now.
 
WOW!!!!!!! YOU GUYS REALLY THRIVE ON THIS! YOU FEW FOOLS ARE A DISGRACE TO THE HERP COMMUNITY! MAYBE I AM GUILTY OF LOOKING UNPROFESSIONAL, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SET OUT TO DO. I HAD TO GET ON A FOOLS LEVEL TO RELATE TO FOOLS. THIS BOI IS A JOKE AND YOU FEW FOOLS THAT STAY ON HERE TO GET IN EVERYONES BUSINESS ARE EVEN MORE OF A JOKE! I POST A FEW WORDS AND YOU GUYS COME UNGLUED. I GUESS IT WORKED. ONCE AGAIN "I'VE HAD MY FUN, BUT NOW I'M DONE."
 
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