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Bill Leverton SCAMMER beware

DAND said:
Has he turned around to return to the right path? We may never know the answers.
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Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Only time will tell
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You replied to the last question (above) but not the prior ones (below).

DAND said:
When did Bill come to this fork in the road? Was this incident with Lee the first step on the wrong path? Or was this just the step where he stumbled and was noticed?
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Or is the response an answer to them all?
 
DAND said:
Originally Posted by DAND
When did Bill come to this fork in the road? Was this incident with Lee the first step on the wrong path? Or was this just the step where he stumbled and was noticed? QUOTE]
For what its worth, This was just a one time bad business call.
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I thought this thread was re-opened to allow Lee to post his "new info"?

Looks to me like the same dead horse getting yet another beating......
 
For what its worth, This was just a one time bad business call.[/QUOTE]
I think you are going far too easy on yourself Bill. This was not a "bad business call" for most people, but maybe that is the way you feel. It does tend to show your true character for you to call it a "bad business deal". Isn't it grand theft if the item is over $200 in value?
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In 1970, a day laborer named Junior Allen was given a life sentence for a crime he would likely get probation for today. Junior Allen stole a TV. In 2005 Bill Leverton was given two thumbs up for paying back the money he stole and he won't even get probation. Justice served?

On the other hand, in 2005 Christian Reina was given a lot of heat for creating a website about devenomized snakes when he does not even have a snake in his house.
Just "imagine" if Bill Leverton scammed Lee by selling him hots rather than the venomoids he purchased? The bad guy would be Lee for the crime of purchasing venomoids and his punishment will be getting scammed by Bill Leverton. Well, I could be totally wrong, right?

Have a great day!
 
Casey Hulse said:
Isn't it grand theft if the item is over $200 in value?
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That definition depends on the jurisdiction. It was likely a felony, and even if not, it certainly qualified as felonious in my opinion.
 
devenomized said:
In 1970, a day laborer named Junior Allen was given a life sentence for a crime he would likely get probation for today. Junior Allen stole a TV. In 2005 Bill Leverton was given two thumbs up for paying back the money he stole and he won't even get probation. Justice served?

On the other hand, in 2005 Christian Reina was given a lot of heat for creating a website about devenomized snakes when he does not even have a snake in his house.
Just "imagine" if Bill Leverton scammed Lee by selling him hots rather than the venomoids he purchased? The bad guy would be Lee for the crime of purchasing venomoids and his punishment will be getting scammed by Bill Leverton. Well, I could be totally wrong, right?

Have a great day!
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We now have a new poster boy for DUMBASS of the Month. I think I've read all this dimwit's posts and I have YET to see anything that even masquarades as intelligence.

You're an idiot reina.

About this thread, let's all wait, posting NOTHING more, until Lee let's us know why HE wanted this thread re-opened.

The re-hashing of Bill's fall from grace serves no purpose. It's well covered already.

Lee, where the heck are you?
 
On the other hand, in 2005 Christian Reina was given a lot of heat for creating a website about devenomized snakes when he does not even have a snake in his house.
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And heat you deserve. Promoting and aiding the market for garage hacks like Bruce what'shisname and others is as dispicable as strapping the snakes down to a board yourself and hacking away ILLEGALLY since now of these guys are vets and so have no license to possess or use the proper anesthesia or to perform surgery. Hell...Bruce left a bunch of botched dead voids in a trashcan that didn't survive the Columbia show AT the columbia show. You support this? You helped with this? Enjoy the heat or get out of the kitchen....sorry to be a part of this off topic crap and while I support whole heartedly what this thread is about and applaud what it caused to transpire...I find contempt in a murderer casting stones at a rapist.
 
Lee

Since this thread has been reopened at your request, we have yet to hear from you. I would really like to hear your side of the refund, before the smoke turns to "flames" again. We have heard from Bill, how about you??
 
Chris, this thread is not about you and your thinely veiled "martyr" post is tasteless to say the least.

Wes, tone it down a bit.

Brett, everyone knows your position on venemoids. However, this thread is not about them.

To everyone else, this thread is about Lee, Bill, and the transaction that happened between them. It is about NOTHING and NO ONE else.
 
Well, there goes my eyesite! 91 pages of reading will make you almost go blind! Not to mention the comparing of photographs at the beginning of the thread!

Lee, I'm so happy to hear that you got the money. What's the information that you wanted to post? I'm going to take a break for awhile and get some eyedrops. I (and I'm sure everyone else) would love to hear from you.
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
I really don't want to be back on top I like being in the middle of the road and you will understand this when the other thread is reopened.. If its reopened :)
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Well it is reopened. After all of your veiled comments and innuendos about this situation in the Ryan Trude thread, care to elaborate now?
 
"Well it is reopened. After all of your veiled comments and innuendos about this situation in the Ryan Trude thread, care to elaborate now?"

I too am curious.
 
pch101 said:
"Well it is reopened. After all of your veiled comments and innuendos about this situation in the Ryan Trude thread, care to elaborate now?"
I too am curious.
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Not really I'm like everyone else waiting for Lee to post, So this circus can leave town.
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Dennis Its my son Why???
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The user name just changed on the account the other day. It gets very confusing if you read all posts under that name. The same people mention the same deal on to two different good guy threads one was responded to under Clear Water reptiles then other under Kodiak Wood.

The user name just changed on the account the other day. It gets very confusing if you read all posts under that name. The same people mention the same deal on to two different good guy threads one was responded to under Clear Water reptiles then other under Kodiak Wood.

Kodiak Wood account was opened on 07-30-2003

And was used regularly until 06-30-2004 then nothing posted until 07-20-2005

Clear Water account was opened 06-29-2004

Kodiak Wood account was opened on 07-30-2003

And was used regularly until 06-30-2004 then nothing posted until 07-20-2005

Clear Water account was opened 06-29-2004

You can see how it could be confusing. If it is not you then I will not mention it again.
 
Oh I see your point...It was his name but with all of this he went from William M Jr to what people call him Matt.Hope that clears it up.
 
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