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Bill Leverton SCAMMER beware

dragonflyreptiles said:
All people are different and Im glad you can do that and since you can I am also glad you are not my friend. If I were to make a HUGE HORRIBLE mistake and need you to slap my down and tell my how fouly I screwed up but then need you to be there to help me back up, you'd slap me down and walk away, I do not need that kind of people in my life. I need true, unconditional family and friends.

I know what Bill did, that does not change the friendship he has given me for several months now, now had this happened before we had become friends, I would not have run over to become friends either.

And in the words of Forest Gump "thats all I have to say about that"

We definitely have the right to choose who our friends are going to be.

I have had friends screw up before but they didn't scam and deceive so many people or outright steal from someone. Bill is on a different level. I remember you having some issues awhile back with a bearded dragon....major issues but you have changed and fixed the problem from what I remember. You didn't scam someone outright, just had really bad judgement. That happens, pathologically lying is not bad judgement. There is a huge difference.

I have stated before my stepfather was a crook and I have definitely learned to stay away form those types of people, otherwise you will get burned and not even know it until it is too late.

Be careful with your relationship with Bill. You sound to be a loyal, trustworthy person and that isn't so bad.....with the right people.

Take care
 
Friendship should not cross over into your business viewpoint. No one here is being rated on their friendship qualities. If I'm wrong, and we are being rated on that, then a great big hug to every member! Please vote for me for Miss Fauna!
 
Bthacker said:
I remember you having some issues awhile back with a bearded dragon....major issues
I have major issues with ALL of my Bearded Dragons....They eat WAY too many Crickets!
 
romad119 said:
Friendship should not cross over into your business viewpoint. No one here is being rated on their friendship qualities. If I'm wrong, and we are being rated on that, then a great big hug to every member! Please vote for me for Miss Fauna!

I will Alan.....I bet your sexy a hell with your dress uniform on.
 
LakesideBoas said:
Those of you that have had your say through the initial pages of this fiasco can cry lockdown if you feel you must, but some of us were not involved in the initial tarring and feathering process.

Do you have any idea how long a 55 gallon barrel of tar takes to heat up? And those darn chickens! I have to keep chasing them to pluck them! Where in the world is my paint brush?! :raspberry :dgrin:

I understand the need.
 
OK guys look at it this way 98% of the neg votes are from people who never had a transaction with Bill so they voted based on their personal feelings about the business deal with Lee, I voted based on my actual transactions with Bill himself before I ever knew who the heck he was.
 
dragonflyreptiles said:
OK guys look at it this way 98% of the neg votes are from people who never had a transaction with Bill so they voted based on their personal feelings about the business deal with Lee, I voted based on my actual transactions with Bill himself before I ever knew who the heck he was.
But now you do... :p
 
dragonflyreptiles said:
OK guys look at it this way 98% of the neg votes are from people who never had a transaction with Bill so they voted based on their personal feelings about the business deal with Lee, I voted based on my actual transactions with Bill himself before I ever knew who the heck he was.

They voted of the clear cut evidence presented as well as the cofession of the scammer.
 
Aww...

It'll never work anyways. The tar boiled down while I was chasing those blasted chickens and I still can't find my stinking paintbrush! :rofl:

You know I was just poking fun at you Chuck.

The person I feel sorriest for is Wendy. Girl, you have plenty of friends here that would never lie to you or smack you while you are down. Just remember that when you need a shoulder, a hug or just someone to bounce your bad day off of. That is the measure of a true friend. PM or e-mail any time you like.
 
Davey, I left those neg. rep points for you, and I stand by my comment. Others may think you were right in posting an e-mail in which you weren't the intended recipient, I however do not...

I don't think you posted it for any honorable or ground breaking reasons. You posted it to be "the man" and add more drama to an already over posted thread. I think you posted it just to further entertain yourself, didn't you say something in a following post that you posted it "for the fun of it..."?.

If you feel the need to retaliate, here is your chance. I didn't want it said that I hid behind the anonymity of the reputation system for those that can't, or won't, fork over the extra $10 to be able to see who posted to their rep points...
 
Joe, Jim, both VERy valid points but I honestly will not take my vote down or change it, it is based 100% on the fauna auction concerning Bill at that time, it is not based on anything before or after that.
 
LakesideBoas said:
Those of you that have had your say through the initial pages of this fiasco can cry lockdown if you feel you must, but some of us were not involved in the initial tarring and feathering process.

Do you have any idea how long a 55 gallon barrel of tar takes to heat up? And those darn chickens! I have to keep chasing them to pluck them! Where in the world is my paint brush?! :raspberry :dgrin:

Look if your short on time... go to home depot, buy a buckets of roof patch (just leave it in the sun for a little bit, then buy a down pillow.... open can... cut open pillow... have a blast.
 
Thanks Maggie, I will PM you, it is nice to be able to have someone to help ease some frustrations from time to time!
 
Gecko_Den said:
Davey, I left those neg. rep points for you, and I stand by my comment. Others may think you were right in posting an e-mail in which you weren't the intended recipient, I however do not...

I don't think you posted it for any honorable or ground breaking reasons. You posted it to be "the man" and add more drama to an already over posted thread. I think you posted it just to further entertain yourself, didn't you say something in a following post that you posted it "for the fun of it..."?.

If you feel the need to retaliate, here is your chance. I didn't want it said that I hid behind the anonymity of the reputation system for those that can't, or won't, fork over the extra $10 to be able to see who posted to their rep points...

I think that by now we all get the point that YOU THINK this is a" beat a dead horse thread" which is way overposted by some obsessed( thanks for the definition and all) individuals.

I THINK any further reinteration of that hypothisis on your part is just BEATING A DEAD HORSE!
 
Davey, I left those neg. rep points for you, and I stand by my comment. Others may think you were right in posting an e-mail in which you weren't the intended recipient, I however do not...
Awesome! I don't care!


I don't think you posted it for any honorable or ground breaking reasons. You posted it to be "the man" and add more drama to an already over posted thread. I think you posted it just to further entertain yourself, didn't you say something in a following post that you posted it "for the fun of it..."?.
I think I posted it because it showed more lies by Bill at a time when he was still trying to weasle his way out of stuff he said and done before. He posted that justice had been served, I asked him more questions about the date of the sale, he lied. The email shows that prior to the sending of the mail on the 13th, the snake was sold and shipped.DId you read the email? I posted also because the person who sent it to me wanted it posted, but didn't want to post it themselves. I didn't post something that someone else said out of spite , I posted Bills words. Did you know that that is the same email that Lee himself got? Bill didn't even retype it for him, he copied and pasted the email he sent to Wendy. Lee got an email that explained why he got bent over, in third person. I explained in the next post that the "I thought it would be fun" was a joke. Get over it. I know why I posted it, and don't care if you agree with it.

If you feel the need to retaliate, here is your chance. I didn't want it said that I hid behind the anonymity of the reputation system for those that can't, or won't, fork over the extra $10 to be able to see who posted to their rep points... [/QUOTE]
I don't need to retaliate, your 40 negative rep points aren't going to effect me, given the fact that I have gained over 1000 on this thread since my first post. Keep swinging though. It is nice to see someone with so little ammunition that they have to resort to how much money I have put into this site. The money I have given to this site was made in donations prior to the implimentation of the pay -to-play. I don't need all the bells and whistles to come here and defend my actions. I don't care who gave me the points, the points don't bother me. I just wanted to see what kind of person would say I was wrong for posting it.
 
Ophis said:
I think that by now we all get the point that YOU THINK this is a" beat a dead horse thread" which is way overposted by some obsessed( thanks for the definition and all) individuals.

I THINK any further reinteration of that hypothisis on your part is just BEATING A DEAD HORSE!

LOL, touche...
 
DaveyFig said:
Awesome! I don't care!



I think I posted it because it showed more lies by Bill at a time when he was still trying to weasle his way out of stuff he said and done before. He posted that justice had been served, I asked him more questions about the date of the sale, he lied. The email shows that prior to the sending of the mail on the 13th, the snake was sold and shipped.DId you read the email? I posted also because the person who sent it to me wanted it posted, but didn't want to post it themselves. I didn't post something that someone else said out of spite , I posted Bills words. Did you know that that is the same email that Lee himself got? Bill didn't even retype it for him, he copied and pasted the email he sent to Wendy. Lee got an email that explained why he got bent over, in third person. I explained in the next post that the "I thought it would be fun" was a joke. Get over it. I know why I posted it, and don't care if you agree with it.

If you feel the need to retaliate, here is your chance. I didn't want it said that I hid behind the anonymity of the reputation system for those that can't, or won't, fork over the extra $10 to be able to see who posted to their rep points...
I don't need to retaliate, your 40 negative rep points aren't going to effect me, given the fact that I have gained over 1000 on this thread since my first post. Keep swinging though. It is nice to see someone with so little ammunition that they have to resort to how much money I have put into this site. The money I have given to this site was made in donations prior to the implimentation of the pay -to-play. I don't need all the bells and whistles to come here and defend my actions. I don't care who gave me the points, the points don't bother me. I just wanted to see what kind of person would say I was wrong for posting it.[/QUOTE]

That was an awful lot of typing just to tell me you don't care......
 
Sam,

Had someone sent me that e-mail I would have posted it too, once the 21st of the month passed and it was clear that events did not play out as Bill claimed that they would. It was more than pertinent to this thread. Bill may have a right to privacy but he has no right to *expect* that something that he publishes on the web and asks Wendy to distribute would be kept private for long. In fact, Dennis Thomas agreed that he would have posted this had someone not already done so, and he was one of the orignal intended recipients.

Now here's a novel idea...if this thread bores you, stop reading it.
 
DaveyFig said:
That was a lot of typing to say "I am the blind guy that gave you negative points."

Reading the e-mail had nothing to do with my opinion of you or your posting of it, so i would hardly consider myself blind to the facts.

In fact this thread did more to open my eyes about some people other than just Bill and his dishonorable actions.......

If anything, I can see a lot of things much clearer now......
 
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