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Bad Guy Blaze Garrett snake paid for not in the shipment with others.....

He said he used "white packing tape that read FRAGILE HANDLE WITH CARE." Is this the tape that was on the box when you received it? Knowing might go a long ways to proving if someone else took the snake out.

Also, just because the UPS guy wrote saying that the delivery wasn't all included doesn't really prove anything. The driver is going by the recipient only; he doesn't know what was supposed to be in the package.
 
Joshua brought up a good point re: weight of snakes vs. weight of box. Do you happen to have the weights of all 6 snakes as stated by Blaze prior to purchase?
 
LauraB said:
Joshua brought up a good point re: weight of snakes vs. weight of box. Do you happen to have the weights of all 6 snakes as stated by Blaze prior to purchase?
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I wouldn't just go by the wieght the seller had said the snakes were since it's already been stated that the snakes were skinnier than expected. Would be a good idea to put the snakes that did arrive on a scale and take pics plus wiegh the box and packaging material that were inside as well.

Also I saw that it was stated the box was 12lbs, was this actual wieght by UPS records or what the seller keyed in when printing shipping label? Doesn't UPS also round up to the next pound? This would give around 450grams to play with if the box was actually just over 11lbs.
 
I just checked the UPS tracking page, and the package is listed at 12 pounds. At 1300 grams (assuming he was accurate with the measurement), that's 2.8 pounds and should show a clear enough difference in weights.
 
i may be wrong but im pretty sure that you input (if printing your own shipping labels) your own weight for shipping. So esentially that box could have been labeled and shipped as a 12 lb package but actually have been 9.5 lbs. UPS doesnt much care about the weigh accuracy when it comes lite packages like this. They actually charge it by its diminsional weight.
 
Thank you for your responses, I do still have the box, pillow cases, Styrofoam and newspaper that I could put the snakes we received back into on a scale. I remember thinking when I took them out, wonder if his wife knows he used her nice pillow cases...(added my thoughts here on a lighter note, as I am sure other wives would think the same about their pillow cases..)LOL.

Anna
 
UPS doesnt much care about the weigh accuracy when it comes lite packages like this. They actually charge it by its diminsional weight.
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Ah, okay. I've never shipped nor received reptiles via UPS. FedX is my preferred shipper and always, always picks up and/or delivers before 10AM, so I wasn't sure if UPS actually might weigh the box to correct any discrepancies a sender might have in their stated and actual weight. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
Just out of curiosity, why didn't I get an email from you Kelly telling me that you were posting this?? I had to find out from a couple people from past dealings... It would have been nice to have been informed so I could defend myself.

Let the questions roll on in.

I'll answer a few that I read during the course of just glancing through.

First, jayefbe I do remember dealing with your girlfriend last year. I am sorry that you did have a hard time with the baby albino but as I said then he ate 3 times from the time that he was hatched to the time you received him. They were all very small (I believe about 30 grams out of the egg). One of the females that Kelly bought from me was the mother to your snake but not the thin one. The thin one had a clutch in late June if I remember correctly and she didn't do so well with keeping her weight up during pregnancy. After laying the clutch I would describe her as looking like a deflated balloon. That was my bad on my part... I probably shouldn't have bred her but I wasn't expecting her to have 4 good eggs and a bad one (which none of them made it due to human error).

Second is, yes I did ship the snakes through PayPal shipping via UPS and yes I did weigh them myself. With all of the snakes I believe it came out to around 10.8 pounds so I rounded up and added a pound just in case my scale was a little off. It was just a regular digital human scale and I didn't want to chance getting down there and them saying "this box is over the weight stated on the box so you have to go get another shipping label made up" thus having to delay the shipment another day.

Thanks,
Blaze Garrett
 
do you have any proof of having packaged up all the snakes?
(not taking sides just asking the questions that will be asked)
 
Also PayPal will issue a mandatory refund if you just simply do not sign for the package and it is returned to the sender.
 
That's were this is tricky... there is no proof of anything. I didn't have a camera recording me packing them up, bringing them to UPS, and shipping them off. Just like he doesn't have a video of the UPS driver bringing in the box and him checking. I just know what happened on my end. Not trying to get smart but there is just simply no way to get proof that either of us is telling the truth. When it comes down to it, it's all about taking sides.
 
Also Anna, I noticed that you found my ad on venomousreptiles.org for the same male albino. That was an old ad. I had taken it down because it was about 5 pages deep at the time. http://www.venomousreptiles.org/classifieds/detail/29115 If you go to this link it will show that I re posted it that same day (8-8-09) to get it to go to the top on the list. In order to take an ad down from that site you must mark it as sold.
 
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That's were this is tricky... there is no proof of anything. I didn't have a camera recording me packing them up, bringing them to UPS, and shipping them off. Just like he doesn't have a video of the UPS driver bringing in the box and him checking. I just know what happened on my end. Not trying to get smart but there is just simply no way to get proof that either of us is telling the truth. When it comes down to it, it's all about taking sides.
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Yet after all of that I still did not see where you said that you did in fact pack the missing snake in question.
 
Well I figured all of the emails that Kelly posted would have clarified that. I guess not... I did pack the adult male albino ball python along with 2 adult female het for albinos, an 08 het, a spider, and a pastel.
 
Yet after all of that I still did not see where you said that you did in fact pack the missing snake in question.
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Exactly, Dave.

Blaze, the question is simple. The answer should be very simple also. Did you or did you not pack the albino male with the other snakes? A simple yes or no is all that is required.

Also let me ask: did you pack the other snakes or did someone else?

Thank you.
 
I don't see how anyone can say one way or the other who's really to blame here. I know the knee jerk reaction is to side with the OP and make the subject prove their innocence but they both seem pretty believable to me. Short of proof one way or they other this is a draw. IMO.

I understand that Blaze evidently is short of cash and possibly has some incentive to attempt to slip one by, but who is Anna? She could be a scammer for all I know. She hasn't proved anything.

Unfortunately the result of this is that I would steer clear of both because I don't know who to believe and I definitely don't want to do business with one of them.
 
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