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Break in at Carolina Reptile Exchange (Bruce Eisenmanns store)

Reptiledude (Tom),
you seem to be getting your "facts" from bruce.
Are you really gonna believe a REAL SCUMBAG?
He has gone as far as doing business as his DEAD father.


and I was just going through my computer and saw this
Posted by Carolina Reptile Exchange (Contact Me!) on September 08, 2003 at 21:54:16
Registered PetHobbyist User since 2003-08-01
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Harry Eisenman has provided
a few more 100% het pieds
some from a pied to normal
some from a pied to het
all are may/june babies
females $1300
males $750
all are feeding on rat pinkies
group prices and offers considered

100 % het albinos
bred and born here in the store
3.3 avail
females $600
males $250
pairs $750

all prices are "or best offer"
paypal and money orders sent overnight ONLY
shipping $40-75 billed by carrier(price varries by carrier)

ONLY TRADES
albino boas
burm morphs
retic morphs
waglers vipers
eyelash vipers
albino atrox
venomoids
tortises and matas

we will be in columbia this weekend
or visit our store
1/2 mile off interstate 77(carrowinds blvd)
on the N.c / S.c border

questions? call (803)548-8BOA
1-8 mon thru sat
2-6 sun

Thanx !
pictures are not nessesaraly the parents of offspring
pics avail by request




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Note the date it was posted on Kingsnake. September 2003
Harry has been dead since May 1999.

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For now, I'll take back my last statement about the law enforcement agency notifying the victim. I just went back and looked at Barry's post informing us of Bruce's arrest, he said he was called, but did not specify the call came from local authorities. And no, I don't have any information proving the arrest is tied to Barry's snakes, but the charges fit the crime perfectly, even the dollar amounts specified. Whoever got the court records for Bruce's animal cruelty convictions might be able to get the court records that have been initiated regarding this arrest (I believe a judge has to determine whether a suspect can be released on his own recognizance, or determine appropriate bond amount required to "post bail"). I don't know how to get that information.
Paul
 
100% HET PIED FEMALES MICROCHIPED

So just a question ? but were does this leave all people who baught these 100% het pieds from ( i guess bruce pretending to be Harry eisenman, ) in 03 . I have to admit if this is true than , What a sick FREAK , to do that , i mean isnt that a bit like
NORMAN BATES PRETENDING TO BE HIS MOTHER ? LOL.
And there still able to sell on kingsnake.com ?
Why have any rules if that can go on / ?
I have nothing against kingsnake and this thread is not about them , but i guess what i want to know is WHO HOLDS THE HET PIED GAURANTEE FROM HCE ?
I tried calling bruce at the number in an ad but !
NO CALL BACKS ( IMMAGINE THAT ,LOL. )
IM HOPEING HE CALLS ME !
I dont care if he was pretending to be his father , a school girl or jabba the hut. He is going to stand behind these snakes .
thats all i care about ,
( well i got that off my chest ) ,lol. so does anyone know what the deal is on the gaurantees for the chipped hets .
MAYBE WE ALL JUST NEED A LITTLE vacation ( down south. )
 
I think a trip down south would be great, it is about 20 degrees here in Michigan and instead of thinking I might have pieds this year I know I won't. I really hope law enfocement can help us out on this. Maybe the first arrest was just one of those, arrest him now so we can keep tabs on him sort of things. I am pretty sure if he ever gets charged with all the fraud counts he has coming his bail will be a bit more than $5000. I would think right now with all the people that bought from "Harry" that he could do some time now, then when all his bogus hets do not prove out they could just tack that time on to it.
 
I hope somehow all the hets

prove out for everyone that bought them, but it looks bad. What were the prices, when compared with het pieds from well known breeders? Were they low enough to raise the red flag? The "you get what you pay for" phrase is overused nowadays, but if the prices were SO LOW, I would have walked away. Could the poss hets be normals and the 100% hets actually be hets? I am hoping for you guys!

Dave
 
STILL GUARANTEED

I just wanted to let a few people know that i recieved an email from bruce yesterday (last night ) saying .
THE HETS ARE STILL 100% GAURANTEED !
And he will be calling me on monday .
Im not trying to trying to justify anything anyone has done ,, or allegidly done by this forum.
My life is hecktic enough without trying to figure someone elses life out too.lol.
BUT BRUCE STILL MAINTAINS THESE HETS ARE REAL AND FULLY GAURANTEED !
Only time will tell but most are 800 to 1000 grams now so time draws near.
I dont usually bring pesonal business to this forum , but a few members were / are confused about this issue. ( het pieds )
I would tell them people now , lets see what happens when we breed them.
Theres alot of speculation but , a guy can not be condemed untill he is proven guilty , and so far , nobody has bred these hets to anything.
JUST SO YOU KNOW .
I have personal friends in this business ( big dogs ) top knotch breeders , who have bred 100% het pieds together and got nothing , from animals that have given them pieds in previous breedings,
They have also on very slim occation bred pied to het and got hets but NO VISUALS ,
THIS IS RARE but can happen.
the best breeding to do to prove these out would be
pied male x het female ( hce )
Im not trying to put anybody in the dumps with this information , but its a true senario , and can happen .
I am possibly going to do deals with certain people who baught these ( hce ) gauranteed hets / whereas i use a proven STUD pied male to fetilize there females ( shipped to my facility )
TERMS of breeding loans will vary ,
The only reason for my doing this is to help customers who do not have a pied male themselves ,
I would rather not do this at all. BUT , i know this may be the only way some people know for sure what they have and have NOT.
Chuck Tornetta Reptiles
 
So if they are guaranteed will he buy back? What does that mean? He would not make good on my het retic after I proved it to not be a 100% het for albino tiger. It was only a poss het and he would not and did not make good. Wheres the guarantee and what is it? Call and ask him to make good on it. You will see. Sorry but I proved him wrong in my case by tracking down the breeder of my retics and because I know he breeds nothing. He buys everything and he did not buy hets to sell as hets. Maybe poss hets but not hets. There is no money to be made there at the prices he sells hets for. And I know for fact he has sold some as hets that were not hets at all not even poss hets.
 
It will definately be interesting to see how these breedings go. As far as the guarantee, it was my understanding that the guarantee was in Harry's name. And supposedly dead Harry disavowed any guarantees made by any relations to himself which would certainly include Bruce. If in fact someone does manage to produce a pied than we will all be stupified as to why Bruce needs to function with aliases and has continually refused opportunities to explain himself. If no pieds show up, which I think is the expectation for the most part, then it will just be confirmation of what so many suspect. And of course, since the guarantees were supposedly from "Harry" you will have to take your complaint to the veterans grave yard in Fort Mill. From the way this guy is operating I personally could care less if he had real hets or not. There is no way that I could in my right mind want to do business with such a flaky personality.
 
Re: STILL GUARANTEED

chuck tornetta reptiles said:
I dont usually bring pesonal business to this forum , but a few members were / are confused about this issue. ( het pieds )
I would tell them people now , lets see what happens when we breed them.
Theres alot of speculation but , a guy can not be condemed untill he is proven guilty , and so far , nobody has bred these hets to anything.
Chuck Tornetta Reptiles
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Ummm, did I miss something here? Chuck, are you aware that Bruce sold/traded these so called hets to certain people and they arrived with TICKS, MITES and INTERNAL PARASITES? Now, I am fully aware that it IS POSSIBLE (although remotely) that Bruce housed these valuable hets with wild caught animals and they got infected. But I think we all know the real deal here. Barry's dealing with Bruce is exactly what has been predicted in this thread. He PROVED that his snakes are NOT what Bruce sold them as ad Bruce is not taking responsibility at all! Bruce is just trying to buy himself a little time by kissing A$$ until these "HETS" start laying eggs. I wouldnt hold my breath as Bruce is not capable of telling the truth. Unless you call failing a polygraph "the truth." I will tell you this. If I would have bought hets from him and they didnt prove out (like we all know they wont) I would see to it that Bruce collected the guarantee from his father personally! Call it what you want, but this guy is a THIEF-LIAR-CON ARTIST, and all around scumbag. And while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, anyone who thinks Bruce is the victim of a bunch of "confused specualtors" who are trying to condemn him needs to have thier head examined.
 
If I would have bought hets from him and they didnt prove out (like we all know they wont) I would see to it that Bruce collected the guarantee from his father personally!

LOL. Hey whoa , lol IM NOT sticking up for bruce here at all ,
Im hopeing beyond hope that these hets prove out , like alot of other folks . He DID TELL ME in wrighting that the gaurantee still stands , UNDER HIS NAME.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT , WHO KNOWS ?
here`s to hope ! IM DRINKING ,.LOL.
CHUCK,T.....
 
Chuck, I'm glad you're working with some of your contacts to do breeding loan deals. I've worked out a breeding loan arrangement with another "het" owner as well, that will likely gain me little other than proving out my het with a pied rather than a het. There is one other person I know of breeding his het to a pied. That makes 3 potential clutches, not counting yours. Harry/Bruce/Noah may have sold some 66% hets as 100%, and some of these may prove out. But I believe the averages of all the pooled breeding results from Honest Harry's Hets will fall WAY short of the probabilities, especially when we pair them with pied males. We won't be dealing with anecdotal clutches of individual experiences, we will be looking at multiple clutches, with each hatchling having 25% or 50% probability of being pied. Thanks for getting involved, supporting, and sharing your information.
Paul
 
One thing I have not read since I brought it up MANY pages ago is this.
On his website, it clearly states that animals must be bred TWO TIMES in ordere to disprove any genetics. This means you all have to breed them and HOPE the female (if anyone has females) is big enough to breed the following year as well. If not, you are talking 3 years from NOW before you MIGHT get a refund IF the snakes did not prove to be hets. That is an awefully long time to hope someone is still around to collect a refund if indeed nobody proves them out.
If some of you have males, you are still talking two years from now.

I hate to sound negative, but I think (IN MY OPINION) Bruce had a larger plan in all this. By stating what he has on his website, under the terms, this gives Bruce A LOT of time to sell snakes without having to worry about anyone contacting him about them not being hets. Was/is his plan to sell what he can, make as much money as he can and then get out? Who knows, just a thought.

Like Chuck said, it is possible to breed a het to a het and not get anything. I just hope that some OR ALL of you who bought hets have a Pied to breed these things to OR can get ahold of one on a breeding loan. It would make your chances of getting a pied much greater this way.

Sticky situation that is for sure.
 
Bruce's Breeding Disclaimer

Brian,
In order for his disclaimer about breeding multiple seasons to have any legal validity, that disclaimer must be written in the documentation with the guarantee at the time of the transaction or at least referred to ie. "Genetics 100% guaranteed for life subject to terms noted on page (x) of CRE website as of (date). That disclaimer is currently on his website, and could have been added at any time before or after any individual transaction occurred or guarantee issued. It has absolutely no bearing on any animal unless it was included in the documentation, (as was the guarantee) at the time of the transaction. Besides, the disclaimer is on Carilina Reptile Exchange's website. Someone show me a screen capture of an HCE website with the same disclaimer from 2002 to mid-2003 and I'll reconsider the validity. Even then, if it's not contained, or referred to, in the same written document as the guarantee, I don't believe a judge would would even entertain the binding power of such a disclaimer.
Paul
 
Another reason for his disclaimer to be disconsidered is that it only resides on the website. He sells directly through ads on KS to individuals who may have no knowledge of the website or the disclaimer.
Paul
 
Paul,
I understand the argument, and I have no idea if it would hold up or not in a court (his disclaimer).
I am not, BY FAR, taking his side, just looking at things as I see them. I think we all know I would like to see this guy taken care of (legally) if such was warranted.
As far as the ads, I can only speak to the ones that have been put up in a last couple months where the link to his site is in each ad. I know, when I would see such an ad, I would go to the website and look into the company and things of that nature, but that is just me.
 
If somebody bought from Bruce of Carolina Reptile Exchange, I could see "buyer beware" coming into the picture regarding researching the website for otherwise undisclosed limitations to the guarantee. But I don't think there ever was a website for HCE. Maybe someone who bought directly from HCE can verify that for us. When he is/was intentionally deceiving his customers as to who and what his company is or was, it's kind of hard to believe he was legally covering his a$$ regarding limitations and liabilities associated with his HCE guarantees. He probably was banking on them being invalid due to being issued by a dead man, from a company that no longer exists. As I said, I'm still waiting for Bruce himself to come on this link, stand up for himself and what he has done, and stand behind what he has sold. I am engaging in a less-than-rewarding breeding loan based upon my doubts that he sold real hets, just to get better statistical data to show fraud. Believe me, I would have arranged more favorable terms if myself or the other party had faith in the animal's authenticity.
Paul
 
I bought from "harry" through HCE. They did not have a website. I was told if the females breed and do not produce visuals, full money returned. You have to remember though that the man that told me that had already been dead for 4 years.
 
Hey Craig,

If you paid with paypal, go to their website and pull up your history. Jerad did this for me and verified that although he bought her from HCE, receipt said HCE,and "Harry" said he ran HCE, the payment actually went to Carolina Reptile Exchange. Just more documentation to show that Bruce was actually the person selling the animals and therefore the person who has to stand behind the guarantee, which without documented terms and conditions at time of sale is wide open for interpretation.
Paul
 
I HAVE ALOT OF INFO ON BRUCE AND CAROLINA REPTILE EXCHANGE

LOTS OF INFO ON SNEAKY BRUCE

I LIVE IN ROCK HILL RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM BRUCE. I AM AMAZED THAT IS ALMOST A WHOLE WEBSITE BAD MOUTHING HIM. I HAVE LOTS OF STUFF ABOUT HIM...SOME MAKES SENCE AND SOME DOESNT. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SOME INFORMATION TO ANYONE WHO WANTS IT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GET SOME OF THE LATEST DIRT ON HIM. I CAN ALSO GO TO HIS STORE AND FIND SOME INFO IF NEEDED. THANKS SO MUCH.

I WANT THE LYING TO STOP. I HATE A LIAR. I ALSO KNOW SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF CAROLINA REPTILE EXCHANGE. GREAT DIRT....!
 
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