Break in at Carolina Reptile Exchange (Bruce Eisenmanns store)

[The BoidSmith]

On 12/9/02 I received the following reply (bolded) from "Harry" to my inquiry below sent the previous day. At that point in time they were operating as Digital Reptiles.

Subject:
Re: Message about: hatched and hatching!66%HET PIED $250EA 100%
HET PIED $1200EA
Date:
Mon, 09 Dec 2002 03:06:37 +0000
From:
"Harry eisenmann" <[email protected]>
To:
[email protected]

pics will come tues,the 66% are all sold,our pieds run from 5000
up,depending on amnt of white,the 2 in this cluch were on the low end as they were not real white,Ill keep you posted for next year

>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Message about: hatched and hatching!66%HET PIED $250EA 100%
HET
>PIED $1200EA
>Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 20:36:15 -0600 (CST)
>
>Do you have any pictures of the piebald (parent). Which bloodlines is
it
>from? How much did the sibbling piebalds sold for? Any pictures of
them? I
>would like to know what to expect from the 66ers. I'm not set up for
Paypal
>but if you give me your name, address, and a phone# I'm interested in
>buying all your clutch.
>
>Regards,
>
>Daniel
>
>----------------------------------------------
>This message was sent by an unregistered or non logged in user.
>
>Sent 08:36 PM, Dec 08th, 2002

 

[Brian Oakley]

Just like the thread last year or better, pics could not be provided because the fool did not produce any!!! Just another sorry attempt to scam someone, but at least you did not fall for it.

 

[ReticEd]

Just like the thread last year or better, pics could not be provided because the fool did not produce any!!!

Ahh, but there may be pics out there

Someone ( I cannot recall who) said they had sold 'Harry' at lest a 25 lot of normal balls.

If that breeder/seller has pics of the 25 balls sold to Harry, then anyone that bought a 'het' can look and see if their 'hets' match up with any of the normals.

If the pics need a host, I or anyone else would most certainly be willing to host the pics, resize if needed etc, enlarge, crop or whatever's needed to put any doubt out of anyones mind in the matter and the pics may just help with fraud charges.

And don't forget about the site in my signature

One good thing, in discussions with a Fort Mill Volunteer fireman I work with, it was passed along what some of the more deadly species are located on the premises, in the event 'Lightning' hits the shop, so they do have a small heads up just in case.

Anything out of the ordinary happens, Bruce, I will never rest until you are behind bars, no matter what.

 

[Brian Oakley]

I was told by this gentleman that I coudl post these emails, but he wanted his name kept out of it. I have replaced his email addy with "*" in respect of his wishes.

WEBSLAVE- I hope you will allow me to post these as I feel it is proof to go along with the posts earler by Barry Miller to support what he says about the infamous character Bruce has created, Noah. There are other emails below to show that Bruce is conducting business as his departed father, Harry (You will see where on email in the second batch was 'signed' by Harry)

----- Original Message -----
From: Carolina Reptile
To: *******@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO


1st off,Noahs not around hes taken some time off to recuperate,and get thru all the stress he has been under.2 shows in a row,the new store,his wreck,hes a canadate for a nervous breakdown,dad and I are kind of keeping things going ,for a couple weeks

Im his friends son ,Bruce.

does he owe you somthing?if so Ill see if I can get it taken care of

I will be speaking with him regularly,as far as the boa goes,he mainly wants to trade for 03 pastel balls or albino female,he will entertain cash offers as well,he also has a het male to go with it .

thank you ,

Bruce


Noah Watanabe
Director of Sales
Carolina Reptile Exchange & co-op
3312 hwy 21 # 114
Ft Mill Sc. 29715
(803) 548-8BOA


>From: ********@comcast.net
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO
>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:37:42 -0500 (CDT)
>
>noah whats up? how can you post animales when you wount ship?, i know you had a car wreck, but we talked and i thought we had a deal? i can i send some one in to get them if you dont want to ship???? let me know? and how much do you want for the boa?

Here are some more examples of emails


----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolina Reptile" <[email protected]>
To: <*******@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO


> yes hes home,a friend has him on his houseboat on lake norman
>
>
> >From: <********@comcast.net>
> >To: "Carolina Reptile" <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO
> >Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:50:43 -0400

> >HOPE EVERYTHING IS GOING GO WITH NOAH IS HE OUT OF THE HOSPITAL YEAT? I
> >HAVE
> >A FRIEND WHO SAID HE WOULD COME IN AND GET THE ALBINO LABY I WILL CALL
> >TOMORROW
> >
>----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Carolina Reptile" <[email protected]>
> >To: <********@comcast.net>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 5:41 PM
> >Subject: Re: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO
> >
> >
> > > hey *******,
> > > Noas in the hospital since fri eve,hopefully his son will get him home
> > > tomorrow morning,Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: <*********@comcast.net>
> > > >To: <[email protected]>
> > > >Subject: Re: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO
> > > >Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:58:48 -0400
> > > >
> > > >NOAH NEVER HERD BACK FROM YOU????????



> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: <*********@comcast.net>
> > > >To: "Carolina Reptile" <[email protected]>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:41 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > noah, so are we still on for the chicago show? 1-2 males albino
> >laby
> > > >10-11
> > > > > ft, $200 . 1 8-9 ft albino boa female for a albino ball, 1 granite
> >burm
> > > >male
> > > > > $600. let me know if you have anything else? talk to you later
> > > > >
> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Carolina Reptile" <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <****@comcast.net>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO


> > Hey,hes gone to bed,we measured her and she is 8 ft 6 in
> > he did not breed her last year,but the 2 yrs prior,I believe she threw 31
> the year before last,
> he realy dint say much this eve,Im not sure he will be at the
> >store
> >or
> > > >not
tomorrow,I think my dad will take him out to the houseboat
> >tomorrow
> > > >and
make
> him relax,
> Bruce


> >From: ********@comcast.net
> > > > > > >To: [email protected]
> > > > > > >Subject: Message about: XLG FEMALE ALBINO
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:46:56 -0500 (CDT)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >noah, iam very interested in the boa, how many times have you
> >breed
> > > >her?
> > > > > > >how heavy is she? if i can get the albino ball do we have a
deal?
> >i will call the shop tomorrow. ps i really need the albino laby male.
> >you
> > > >can
> > > > > call
> > > > > > >if you want

> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >Click on (or cut and paste into you browser's
> > > > > > >location window) the URL below to view the ad that
> > > > > > >this message is in response to.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?de=143053&cat=8
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >This message was sent by an unregistered or non logged in user.


> > > > > > Noah Watanabe
> > > > > > Director of Sales
> > > > > > Carolina Reptile Exchange & co-op
> > > > > > 3312 hwy 21 # 114
> > > > > > Ft Mill Sc. 29715
> > > > > > (803) 548-8BOA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
_________________________________________________________________
> > > > > > High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on
> >the
> > > >local
> > > > > > service providers in your area). Click here.
> > > >https://broadband.msn.com

> > > Noah Watanabe
> > > Director of Sales
> > > Carolina Reptile Exchange & co-op
> > > 3312 hwy 21 # 114
> > > Ft Mill Sc. 29715
> > > (803) 548-8BOA
> > >


*****Here are some email from Harry!!!! Imagine how the heck he managed to email someone.*****



----- Original Message -----
From: <*********@comcast.net>
To: "Harry Eisenmann" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: MALE BRAZILIAN RAINBOW $225 SHIPPED W PIC


> BRUCE ARE YOU UP?
>
> CALL ANY TIME 7AM 12 PM EST


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Eisenmann" <[email protected]>
> To: <*******@comcast.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Message about: MALE BRAZILIAN RAINBOW $225 SHIPPED W PIC
>
>
> > Bruce is usualy home after 830 pm,Harry


> > >From: <****@comcast.net>
> > >To: Harry Eisenmann <[email protected]>
> > >Subject: Re: Message about: MALE BRAZILIAN RAINBOW $225 SHIPPED W PIC
> > >Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:55:27 -0500
> > >
> > >BRUCE, WHEN IS A GOOD TIME TO CALL AND TALK?
> > >
> > >

> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Harry Eisenmann" <[email protected]>
> > >To: <*******@comcast.net>
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:05 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Message about: MALE BRAZILIAN RAINBOW $225 SHIPPED W PIC
> > >
> > >
> > > > 803 548-5520


> > > > >From: <******@comcast.net>
> > > > >To: Harry Eisenmann <[email protected]>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Message about: MALE BRAZILIAN RAINBOW $225 SHIPPED W
PIC
> > > > >Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:00:53 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >bruce give me your#
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Harry Eisenmann" <[email protected]>
> > > > >To: <[email protected]>
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:28 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: Message about: MALE BRAZILIAN RAINBOW $225 SHIPPED W
PIC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > all the girls I can lay hands on!


From: <*******@comcast.net>
> > > > > > >To: [email protected]
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: Message about: MALE BRAZILIAN RAINBOW $225
SHIPPED
> W
> > >PIC
> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:59:03 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >BRUCE, THE 1 PIC IS A FEMAL, NOT A MAKE. WHAY WERE YOU LOOKING
> FOR?


> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > >To: <*********@comcast.net>
> > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:42 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: Message about: MALE BRAZILIAN RAINBOW $225 SHIPPED W
PIC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hey,its Bruce,do you have any other brazillians?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > This message was sent by an unregistered or non logged in
> user.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sent 03:42 PM, Jan 09th, 2003 from I.P. Address
199.222.172.26
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >

 

[screamdreams]

Just wanted to ad...

I think somewhere in these 85+ pages someone had questioned if anyone has sold to 'Harry' and I wanted to reply...I sold 'Harry' 20 female normals last year...so Bruce has done purchases in his 'late' Father's name. Man...you would figure by now, the word would be out on this guy!! Looks like he's posting more & more animals everyday.

 

[GinoInDaBronx]

do the police know....

Hey guys,

First off, Brian Oakley, thanks for all of your work. I, for
one, really appreciate it.

I just despise animal-abusers. I was going to pass on
commenting until I read about what bruce did to those
tigers.

With that, have the police seen the photo of his 12 year
old son holding that cobra? Can someone please do a
screen capture of it? I would hate for it to disappear
before I alert Child Protective Services in his area.

Thanks,

Sincerely,

Gino 'In Da Bronx' Beniquez

ps-and Ritchie, just how long are your vacations??? lol! I want
a holiday like that! Enjoy it, my friend, you certainly deserve it.

 

[John Albrecht]

KS

"Noah" is posting snakes for sale as recently as today on KS. !

I also can't believe there isn't anyone discussing this on the BP forum over there, although someone is offering to help with microchip number tracking.

 

[Paul Fisher]

posts "over there"

The moderators "over there" are very protective of their advertisers, of which Bruce is one. There has been information posted, but it has been removed due to being against their policies for posting. I tried to be vague enough to not have my post pulled by the moderator. But I'll bet right now Bruce is trying to contact them to have it pulled. After all he is a paying client of theirs!

 

[Brian Oakley]

There have been suggestions about the 'robbery', not too many people get that involved. I on the other hand DID post some very basic info and it was deleted.
THAT is why people do not discuss things that matter on KS, it jsut gets deleted if the "Mods" do not like your answer, even if it is FACT and what happened to me is FACT as well regarding this on KS. I will add, I was very polite, professional, tactful, etc.
This is the reason that site has become nothing more than a chatroom and a place to show pics of your snakes.
That is a whole other thread in itself though.

 

[craig kade]

I just looked for some posts I made the other day over there too, can not seem to find them. Don't they email you a warning or something. Craig

 

[Brian Oakley]

Do you still have the emails where you conversed with 'Harry' and sold to him?

Post them if you do, I know there are TONS of people that would love to see them.

 

[Brian Oakley]

Are you referring to this pic?

I have it on my hard drive.

 

[ms_terese]

Just curious....

I know that since this thread was started, Bruce has commented on it on other sites, but stated he wouldn't come here to post. Has he made any posts anywhere else after the plethora of new information came out (Harry's death, Noah's fake existence, verification from people that he used fake names on the phone, etc.)?

 

[Brian Oakley]

What sites has he posted on? I really would like to know. I will copy and paste those as well.

If you (Ms terese) are talking about KS, all I have seen are posts about the theft on the classifieds and I might have seen one on the fowums. Nothing where he is actually speaking to it, just sating suchand such animals and pics of the retics.

 

[ms_terese]

On page 69, Ritchie posted:


quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce's Exact QOUTE in regards to this thread was - "They are tearing my a$$ apart on there and I will not post because of it!"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know what site it was on, maybe KS. I was just wondering if he's had anything further to say.

 

[Brian Oakley]

I like how the ads mentioned that all venomous rules will be followed now.
Just think it is funny that he does that now, but the damage had been done Bruce, you have already shipped via FedEx whcih is illegal...........and we have the proof!!!!

Does anyone know how to copy the ads the way you see it on KS? I do not kow how to do so, I only know how to copy and paste the ad.......which I can do as well.

 

[Brian Oakley]

Here is the ad posted by Noah.

CHECK OUT THIS GUY !
The Carolinas,shipping the continental U.S.
Posted by Carolina Reptile Exchange (Contact Me!) on February 03, 2004 at 18:03:03
Registered PetHobbyist User since 2003-08-01

Click on thumbnails to view fullsize in a new window

ok,its not a cribo
its a spiloties(yeah and I prob. spelled it wrong)
but he is AWESOME !
and fairly tame too
orange,yellow ,jet black,WOW !
hes yours for $150
I prefer paypal or m.o. sent overnight
thanx
Noah

Here is the link for any investigators that want CURRENT proof of him using the name Noah.
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=6&de=154010

 

[Brian Oakley]

THis guy has ads EVERYWHERE all of a sudden!

You think he is getting out of the industry?
Look at the stuff he is getting rid on the venomous page! Also ads on the Colubrids and Boas.

 

[craig kade]

Has anyone actually talke to an investigator about him, and if so to what extent. I for one would really like to see this guy get nailed. If we can make some of his local authorities take a look at this maybe something will be done. Craig Kade

 

[haas101]

For anyone wanting to contact the authorities the detective at the York County Sheriffs office over this case and looking for info
is
Det. John Martin
(803) 628-3172