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My fiancee apologizes and want to pay his fine and get this over with. He is not a bad person just a little stir crazy from being off for 12 days. How does he go about paying his fine and settling this matter.
 
Please accept my deepest apologies, once again Sybella!

"That's it, Albert. This is the second cheap shot you've thrown at me because I am friends with someone you don't like."

Oh contraire Ms. VanCleve! After reading this thread, I have absolutely no idea who your "friend" is, unless you are referring to Wes? I really have nothing to judge the ever-elusive "Damon/Brian" on, if that's who you are referring to.


" It will stop here. It's not wonder you have so many marks against you here for being discourteous to the other forum members! My children are better behaved than you and I don't allow them to go online! You remind me of all the "cool" kids back in elementary school who didn't like somoene else based on what their friends thought. "

I agree, my behavior has been reprehensible and I will repent. You, on the other hand, a surely a "pillar of the community" and in the future I will strive to become just like you!

"Just for the record, I don't subscribe to idle gossip. I judge everyone on their own merits. It does not matter to me what other people think of someone as long as they are good to me. Rich or poor, it doesn't matter who or what they know, it's the person inside that counts. There are no "teams" here. I grew out of the "high school clique" mentality back in high school. "

Nothing but the loftiest of standards for you "Sybella"!

"Now, I've tried to step out of this "conversation" because I've stated my opinions and I'm done. I would appreciate it if you would stop dragging me back into this, as Wes so wonderfuly put it, dog poop."


"Dog poop" indeed!

Albert Applebaum
 
Ritchie Luna ended up "running around", in a frenzy, "with his head cut off" only to produce apparent false accusations and useless information about ISP's, when "Damon/"Brian Smith" obviously couldn't care less whether "his" ISP was matched with someone else. Ritchie was obviously one of "Damon"/"Brian's" targets.

False accusations? I apologized for the reptile thing because I had nothing concrete. That is it. It does not mean it was untrue. But it does not mean it was true either.

As far as Jail sentence....I do not know.

WHY

Because I have his full name
I have his date of birth.
I have his full address.
I have his records (criminal)
And everything suggest that he did jail time and not because he wanted to take a break from the reptiles scnene like he pretended.
So what else did you want?
I also pointed out coincidences.
I also pointed out his prior actions and posts.
I also pointed out that Josh seemed really suspicious like he could be Brian. He has been back to read everything...But just like Brian /Damon he refuses to post on his defense....WHY?
Because he knows he would get caught up in his lies. THAT"S WHY......
So I may have not done anything important yet. But as you can tell I am lining up my ducks in a row. Something is not right here.
And everyone knows it. I just don't have the magic puzzle piece yet.

What have you done?


It was obviously started, in effect, by the same guy who has been bashed here. Whether "GinoInDaBronx", Thomas Jones", "Sybella", "CaptainSlackass", "joels417", "Dr. Doolittle", "Damon Andrews" and, of course, "Brian Smith" are one in the same, or some combination of more than one person, the only conclusion that I can draw is that he/they started this thread simply to "get under someone's skin."
Gino started this thread because Brian Smith is back. Gino started this thread...because just like me.......he DESPISES lying sacks of dog poop who pretend they are someone big. He DESPISES lying sacks of dog poop who go around saying...."I am a big reputable breeder". I KNOW whose side GINO is on.


Now ask yourselves.
Why does Brian Smith not post here?
Because he knows his lies will be left up for the world to see forever.
Now some of you maybe thinking......."but I saw him on kingsnake begging for his true story to remain on the forums"
Well gee. He knows he could go begging all he wants ( for looks and for his blind public).....but he knows his lies will be gone just as sure as the sun will rise tommorrow. that is why he would rather tell the "truth" on kingsnake than on here.

So far everything is lined up nice neat and in a row.
But as of this moment a key element is missing.


And as far as the rest of these people. They are different from Brian/Damon/Josh. It is not their fault if the guy gives a couple of good advices and they start worshipping him as the next GOD. it is not their fault that he tells stories of being the biggest thing since sliced bread and they believe it. It is not their fault if this big breeder bought his stock in april 2002 and come Fall 2002 he goes around posting that his tock was breeding size. It is not their fault that they do not realize his breding stock was up to size (supposedly ) in 2002 but here it is 2003 and still nothing produced. It is not their fault when they believed him when he went posting that he will be the biggest thing in 2003 and here it is he has one day left and still nothing. it is not their fault they believe his lies. it is not their fault if they think it is okay for him to fool the public because he is trying to hide from his criminal past. it is not their fault that he claims to be a big business but he can't even figure out his real name.
 
With all due respect to ....................

the fact that you've now posted over 3,000 times to this site, Richie, I think that you have a problem acknowledging when you "come up short". Thus far, I fail to see where your contribution is of any value, as you haven't linked "Brian Smith" to anything that has to do with selling snakes and ripping people off. The only significant things I've seen you do at this point is, like I said before, is falsely accuse "Brian" of going to jail for stealing, and provide useless information about ISP's. Now if this is all leading to some big, useful revelation about who "Brian Smith" really is and how he's been ripping off the herp community, then bravo for you. However, at this point I don't see where you should be taking credit for anything.

It's difficult though to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that, in the end, you will come up big here. I've only seen you in action once before, and that was on the Fred Albury thread. The only thing you seemed to be able to do there was to spin your wheels endlessly attempting to prove that Boapit and I were the same person. Your extensive research regarding our ISP's did nothing but waste everyone's time. We know simply by the fact that we are two different people.. In the end, you proved to be the type of person who couldn't even admit that he made a simple mistake. Fred Albury was up to the "Devil's business" and you were preoccupied with the ISP's of two guys who were simply trying to expose him. Therefore, in this thread, you should understand why I may be at least a little skeptical of what you claim to have accomplished.

You ask "What have I done"?

Well, it's because of my questions that "Thomas Jones" admitted that he shared the same ISP as at least one of "Brian Smith's" alter ego's or one of his friends. This led to the obvious revelation that this whole thread was a hoax. Consider the fact that "CaptainSlackass", obviously a cohort of "Brian Smith's", came on just to say how "Brian" threatened to hunt him down and mount his head on a spike. You have to admit that common sense should tell you that the entire thread is nothing more than a joke after realizing that "Brian Smith" is responsible, directly or indirectly, for saying extremely negative things about himself on this thread. Do you really not get that these guys are playing with you here Richie?

If you know WHO "Brian Smith" really is, then what is stopping you from giving his full name, address, and the the nature of any part of his alleged criminal past that has anything to do with ripping people off in the sale of animals? Otherwise, what do the "coincidences", "prior actions and posts", and "suspicions "that you speak of have to do with anything?

Albert Applebaum
 
Richie, you can't be serious...........

"And as far as the rest of these people. They are different from Brian/Damon/Josh. It is not their fault if the guy gives a couple of good advices and they start worshipping him as the next GOD. it is not their fault that he tells stories of being the biggest thing since sliced bread and they believe it. It is not their fault if this big breeder bought his stock in april 2002 and come Fall 2002 he goes around posting that his tock was breeding size. It is not their fault that they do not realize his breding stock was up to size (supposedly ) in 2002 but here it is 2003 and still nothing produced. It is not their fault when they believed him when he went posting that he will be the biggest thing in 2003 and here it is he has one day left and still nothing. it is not their fault they believe his lies. it is not their fault if they think it is okay for him to fool the public because he is trying to hide from his criminal past. it is not their fault that he claims to be a big business but he can't even figure out his real name"

You say "it's not their fault" eight times in the paragraph above. The "their" that you are referring to would have to be the following characters that appeared in this thread in support of "Damon"/"Brian"

"Thomas Jones"
"Sybella"
"Joels417"
"Dr. Doolittle"
"NCrebecca"

What makes you so sure that these characters are "in the dark" about "Damon"/"Brian"? I think that, not only are they all "out of the dark" compared to you, but they are all, even including Gino and the Captain, having fun with it AT YOUR EXPENSE. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that "Brian/"Damon" isn't just about every character, if not all, that I just mentioned. Now that I believe this thread is a hoax, it doesn't seem that "Brain"/"Damon" is concerned about you finding anything out about him. In fact, it's appears as though he's encouraging you to Richie, in order to make a mockery of you.

Look at the accusations above:

- being worshipped as the next God
- telling stories about being the biggest thing since sliced bread
- lied about his breeding stock
- produced nothing (although he still has one day)
- hiding his criminal past

With the exeption of lying about his breeding stock and alleged criminal past, there's nothing worth even mentioning here. As for lying about his breeding stock, who cares, given the fact that no one has come on this thread complaining that his lie caused them some sort of loss. And, so far, I don't see where this guy's alleged criminal past has caused anyone any harm. Judging by your own reaction to the charges you listed, it doesn't sound like he went to jail for bothering anyone in the herp community, so what's it to you? Maybe he did go to jail, and maybe he's ashamed of it and therefore would rather not have his past ruin his future. As long as he isn't in the habit of ripping people off like Fred Albury has, SO WHAT?

You've got to do better Richie, if you want to gain some credibility in your zest to portray this guy as a fraud.

Albert Applebaum
 
I can't believe this crap. What I stated about Brian Smith is true. It was witnessed by dozens of people. If you think that Brian Smith and I are one and the same you need to get your head examined. The fact that you could even CONSIDER it, blows all your credibility to hell as far as I'm concerned. You sound a little paranoid yourself.

Just because I have a snappy user-name doesn't make me Brian -Smith. This is laughable. If anyone here is in league with BS... it's far more likley to be you than me I assure you.


Damon is a bad guy. His little tirade against me was only one small post in the middle of dozens that the BC Forums was bombarded with when Damon went nuts. Telling us all we should be whipped like a bunch of ni**ers was just as bad, if not worse.

My feud with BS goes back a little over a year and is well documented on at least three websites. Anaconda Al doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. My guess is that this is just par for the xourse for Mr. Jump-to-the-wrong-Conclusion.
 
Nice try Captain..................

But you gave yourself away in your post on page 33. In your first seven posts portrayed "Brian/Damon" as a guy who could personally email and threaten to rip someone's head off and put it on a spike. A guy who could provide you with a hard copy of how he was going to hunt you down and "take care of" you. A guy who would make sensational, threatening , racial comments on a public forum for "dozens" to see. YET, on page 33, you portrayed the exact opposite:

"You guys are barking up the wrong tree. The guy's a low-life, but he won't come here and respond to anything personally. He's not that stupid."

Please, Mr Slackass, don't tell me that you thought that it was brilliant of him to personally threaten you in an email, and brilliant to publicly threaten dozens of people, yet he would think it to be "STUPID" to come on Fauna and defend himself? In your next hoax, be sure not to portray such a stark and sudden change in any of the player's basic character. You dummy!



"A few posts back someone called him a master manipulator. Well that's exactly what he is. Any pathological liar knows that the best way to avoid trapping yourself is to simply not say anything. If he can get others to defend him, why bother coming here in person and risk getting caught up in a lie?"

You didn't have to explain this for "Damon"/"Brian"/Yourself, as I'm sure most here were able to know Fred Albury - like behavior when it "rears it's ugly head". You are pretty good, but you didn't have to blow your cover by honking about what a "master manipulator" you are. You dummy!


"We won't see or hear from Damon personally. He'll continue to use his (unwitting) flunkies to pull the switches and turn the dials on his great and powerful OZ machine. It's all just smoke and mirrors."

Even while this thread grew, "Brian Smith" was fearlessly firing away at Richie Luna and Wes Pollock on KS. he didn't seem to "show up", nor did he need his "unwitting flunkies to do the job over there. There was no need to liken your operation here to the "great and powerful OZ machine". Nobody likes a bragger! You dummy!

"I know I said I wanted out of this thread. I'd said my peace and that was that. But like a bad traffic accident, it's hard not to look..."

There was no need to justify "CaptainSlackass's" resurfacing in this thread. Everyone else does it, and, besides, I thought that he was the most colorful character in your stable. You dummy!

"Ritchie... my hats off to you man. Good work putting the pieces together. This has all been very interesting. I sure as hell wouldn't lose any sleep over his legal threats"

in one of your earlier posts, you gave the impression that nobody knew "Brian Smith" better than you did, and, as I've explained in recent posts, I don't think that Richie has done much of anything in this post, so what could you have possibly learned from him that you didn't already know? I agree that you probably found the whole thing interesting (and amusing). But there was no reason to tell the rest of the world! You dummy!

Actually, "CaptainSlackass", it's been very entertaining. I hope that, if you have in fact resided in the "big house" for a decade or so, that you have learned your lesson and limit your current shennanigans to harmless "trolling". Dismissed!

Albert Applebaum
 
Please excuse my grammatical errors....

"You didn't have to explain this "Damon/Brian/Yourself (no "for")

"he didn't seem to ("have any problem") "showing up"

"I don't think that Richie has done much of anything in this thread (not "post")

Albert Applebaum
 
Tell me again about how the Gay martians killed JFK some time, you dolt!

LMMFAO!!!

I don't post on KS, ever,. I hate the format, and would have no idea what was going on over there. I do, however post over on BC quite a bit, and am a moderator of The Reptile Room. (There's a WAR room there if you want to tell me what's really on your mind...)

He uses people like Sybella, and Thomas to fight his battles for him whenever possible. He did the exact same thing at BC. (how come Mr. Know it all didn't know that?)

Please, Mr Slackass, don't tell me that you thought that it was brilliant of him to personally threaten you in an email, and brilliant to publicly threaten dozens of people, yet he would think it to be "STUPID" to come on Fauna and defend himself? In your next hoax, be sure not to portray such a stark and sudden change in any of the player's basic character. You dummy!

This almost made me fall out of my chair laughing. It's so simple really... No, I don't think he's stupid. I think he's crazy. Not just wierd... I mean "flip-city" ... as in psychopath, or possibly split personality disorder, with a twist of megalomania for added flavor. He's the kind of whack-job that a psychaiatrist could write a book about. NO, it doesn't take a stupid person to do what he does, it takes a lunatic.

You went out on an unfortunatley thin limb here. I'm sorry to inform you that you are quite wrong in your otherwise HILARIOUS accusations. In fact you're so OBVIOUSLY wrong the whole thing seems very "Troll-like" to me.

It was a good laugh though, I'll give you that.
 
Cap'n Crunch...

Here is your earlier post Slackmeister...

Sorry, but the answer is no. Nothing was done to him beyond questioning his RIDICULOUS stories.

"The last time he came online as Brian Smith (and not an alias), he behaved like a rabid animal. I can't even post what he said there in this website, because I would surely be booted. It was insanely rasist, (he used the "N" word liberally, Stuff like "you should all be whipped like a bunch of N******s", he went off on a couple of girls on the forum because they were lesbian. He went absolutely freakin' NUTS. It even dipped into Satanisistic threats as he stated that he would put my head on a spike and do some little Satanic dance around it. He even had a name for the ceremony, but hell if I remember what he called it".


Okay, in a recent post by you, you claim that these things are "well documented". Post that "proof". Also, if he truly threatened you like that, why didn't you press charges or come to the BOI then? Obviously you aren't afraid of him since you're posting this stuff now braincell. What gives? You also claim that he threatened to spend thousands to "come and get you". Do you have a copy of the restraining order you filed to protect yourself from future threats? Come on bro'. You're slippin'. Your "alter-egos" were doing a better job of keeping your scheme mysterious.


"I really wish that the scene that went down at MoreliaPythons.com was still up and not deleted. There was a huge tell-all about BS on that site.
You really think you know him better than me? Fine... go ahead and think that. I know him more than I want to already".

"I'm done with this. What I've stated is 100 percent true and verifiable. I'm not going to argue when everything I've said is so easily checked out".

Verifiable??? Where? Show us. Post your evidence.
 
You guys kill me. It was all deleted. Most evidence surrounding this guy gets deleted, because that's what administrators do with online threats, they DELETE them. for you to demand to see the actual threads is just a ridiculous attempt to blow smoke up everyone's ass while discrediting the truth.

But since you're obviously unclear about the event, here's how it all went down...

B.S. had been banned from BC, but kept coming back with a slightly different user-name. He was told point blank to get the hell out, but he kept coming back.

One day he went absoutely nuts and started a flurry of absolutely insane posts. Stuff like JAY OWENS SUCKS (fill in the Blank) ... BOB CLARK is a (fill in the Blank). As quickly as he was posting them Jeff was deleting them, as he was the only mod on board at the time. But Jeff was on dialup and Damon obviously had a high speed connection. Jeff was running several posts behind. Damon must've been drunk, stoned, or maybe he was just having a psychotic episode. Maybe a combination of all three.
If you think stuff like that is going to stick around on any website then you're an idiot. Of course it got deleted. That hardly makes my case look weak.

Now as to why I didn't get a restraining order...

Against WHO exactly, would I have gotten a restraing order? His real identity wasn't exposed until months later. And besides, just threating someone isn't enough to get a retraing order. There has to be a real hiostory of real violence, or you'll have to pay a lot of court fee's. I didn't bother.

Incedentally, what's your REAL interest in all this... seems to me like you're taking this a little too personally... I wonder why...?
There are plenty of people who saw this go down. Doc Owens (who arrived on the scene a bit later), Jeff, and at least a dozen or so others who were online at the time.
It'e easily documented by asking them what happened. Also, I have posted proof. The email he sent me is more than proof enough.
 
As far as not being afraid of him.. whoever said I was afraid of him? I'm just standing up for myself.

Also... I'm not completely obsessed with him guy either.

I was only here to check out the classifieds when I saw this thread, and felt like I had something to add.

You can villify me all you want but you can't discount the LEGION of folks who have nothing but bad things to say about this EXTREMELY BAD GUY.
 
Well Howdy Cap'n...

"My feud with BS goes back a little over a year and is WELL DOCUMENTED".
"What I've stated is 100 percent true and verifiable".

Those are your words, not mine.

He ( Damon, Brian, or whatever he calls himself this week) was the instigater to the best of my knowledge. He went as far as to threaten me as well ( no I didn't save the threats, If I saved all the threats I receive my box would be full).

You only had room to save ONE threatening e-mail, lol? You can come up with a better fish story than this.


I am working on finding the original KS post. Anything on the internet that is deleted is not really deleted. If i am able to find it i will post it. - Thomas Jones

Perhaps you could ask yourself, oops, I mean Thomas, how to access deleted items.

"for you to demand to see the actual threads is just a ridiculous attempt to blow smoke up everyone's ass while discrediting the truth".

First of all, I never "demanded" anything! Your attempt to paint a different picture than what my post suggests is just a futile and ridiculous attempt to avoid the obvious. Who's really blowing smoke here pal? You spout these outlandish claims while professing to be able to "verify" this "well documented" info, yet you refuse to "verify" anything. Get a grip fellas, I mean fella.
 
"just threating someone isn't enough to get a retraing order".

I beg to differ, and so do you. If it is true that you got SEVERAL threatening e-mails, and if it is true that the ONE you saved and posted here is real, lol, then that is proof enough to get a restraining order. Against who you say? Well, against Brian Smith. You didn't know then that "Brian Smith" was just an alias. You said yourself that you didn't know until months later that his name wasn't really Brian. You're stumbling again, lol.
 
You spout these outlandish claims while professing to be able to "verify" this...

Everything about this guy is completely outlandish. He takes care of hundreds of snakes, handling each and every one every day in just a couple of hours. He has an Exercise regimen for his snakes so that they don't get flabby.. . He can raise a rat from a baby to a jumbo size for less than 5 cents...
And have the nerve to say that MY claims are outlandish!?! I think it's YOU who needs to get a grip. Seriously.

If you doubt my words, fine. I could give a rats ass. You're in the minority though. Doc Owens can back me up. Jeff Lepsch can back me up. I'm not going to do the legwork for you. Go ask them yourself.

You only had room to save ONE threatening e-mail, lol? You can come up with a better fish story than this.
Now why would one email not be enough? Hmmm. It looks like pretty damning evidence to me. How many bloody gloves do you need to paint the scene?
 
"Everything about this guy is completely outlandish. He takes care of hundreds of snakes, handling each and every one every day in just a couple of hours. He has an Exercise regimen for his snakes so that they don't get flabby.. . He can raise a rat from a baby to a jumbo size for less than 5 cents..."

I totally agree with these statements. I've confronted "Brian" about a few of those issues myself on KS. And yes, they are outlandish. But now I realize that he was just toying with us.


"And have the nerve to say that MY claims are outlandish!?! I think it's YOU who needs to get a grip. Seriously".

Of all the nerve!


If you doubt my words, fine. I could give a rats ass. You're in the minority though. Doc Owens can back me up. Jeff Lepsch can back me up. I'm not going to do the legwork for you. Go ask them yourself.

Their lack of speaking on your behalf here speaks volumes in itself. Did they get threatening e-mails as well? Trust me, I've been in the "minority" before, lol.


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"Now why would one email not be enough? Hmmm. It looks like pretty damning evidence to me. How many bloody gloves do you need to paint the scene"?

The question is, why would one e-mail be enough, for you. Any other normal person on the planet would have saved them all.
 
I beg to differ, and so do you. If it is true that you got SEVERALthreatening e-mails, and if it is true that the ONE you saved and posted here is real, lol, then that is proof enough to get a restraining order.

Try again. You're going to have to quote me, because I never said that. The fact is that I did get more than one threating email, but I never said that in this thread. So my question to you is simple. How did you know that I got more than one threatening email, and Who am I really talking to here?

Against who you say? Well, against Brian Smith. You didn't know then that "Brian Smith" was just an alias. You said yourself that you didn't know until months later that his name wasn't really Brian. You're stumbling again, lol.

You're trying so hard to gain some footing in your worthless arguement that you're not reading with any comprehension at all. I meant that I didn't know what his real name was. I knew Brian Smith was an alias, but his real name wasn't known unti he was outed on Moreliapythons.com.
And no it doesn't work that way in Georgia. Anyone can get a restraining order against anyone, but it cost's a considerable amount of money. To get one for FREE requires an actual violent act.
I wasn't about to waste my hard earned money on a threat from a BS artist like him.

Now answer my question...
What's your interest in all of this? My interest is obvious. What's your angle?
 
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