Brian Smith-Inquiry

[HerpVenue]

hey Wes..I am at work and can't check right now....
did I forward you Damon heynen's records?

 

[NEWReptiles]

"So you say (Chris), that since these threads were deleted over on BC forums that it didn't happen? I seen it myself, along with quite a few others on those forums."

Really, I said that? I must be having a memory lapse,

Or you didn't read my post, if you look closely I phrased it as a question.

 

[W.Wedeking]

In respect of Al's wishes,
I nominate the new names for Chris (Boapit) and Al (Anaconda Al) be :
Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber respectively.

I just quit reading their posts altoether as they are nonsense.

While twisting peoples words may be a talent admired by lawyers, politicians and car salesmen, it certainly does not indicate a high level of intellect nor does it help with the fact finding process that the majority of us on the BOI are interested in. The only thing it does do, is detract from the actual topic the thread is about.

I have never put anyone on the BOI on my ignore list, but I am seriously contemplating it with these two. IMHO these two have shown they have little, if any, respect for anyone here and I have yet to see them conciously contribute anything helpful.

 

[Wilomn]

Wendy, are you sure you're a natural blonde? That last post had me laughing out loud for real and practically knocked me onto the floor. Hilarious.

Wes Pollock

 

[NEWReptiles]

nor does it help with the fact finding process that the majority of us on the BOI are interested in.

IMHO these two have shown they have little, if any, respect for anyone here

Well put Wendy.

 

[NEWReptiles]

Wendy, are you sure you're a natural blonde? That last post had me laughing out loud for real and practically knocked me onto the floor. Hilarious.

Good to see your right back on topic......

 

[Brian Oakley]

here is a post that he put up. I find it humerous how he says that the snakes are breeding yet their tails barely touch. Hard to say for sure, but do either of them look 15 foot?

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=276318,276318

Ritchie, I am lookinng for the post you are asking about. I will see if I can't find it.

 

[Chris Kennard]

Wes....

"How about Al for Realvenom and an-al for the other guy?"

Mmmmuuuuuuuahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Too funny! When is your next show?


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[Sybella]

I find it humerous how he says that the snakes are breeding yet their tails barely touch. Hard to say for sure, but do either of them look 15 foot?

LMAO!! It's not the tails that need to be touching, it's the vents! And, no one can tell how big those snakes are without a reference. You're so funny, Brian!

 

[joels417]

Re: Richie, you can't be serious...........

You say "it's not their fault" eight times in the paragraph above. The "their" that you are referring to would have to be the following characters that appeared in this thread in support of "Damon"/"Brian"

"Thomas Jones"
"Sybella"
"Joels417"
"Dr. Doolittle"
"NCrebecca"

What makes you so sure that these characters are "in the dark" about "Damon"/"Brian"? I think that, not only are they all "out of the dark" compared to you, but they are all, even including Gino and the Captain, having fun with it AT YOUR EXPENSE. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that "Brian/"Damon" isn't just about every character, if not all, that I just mentioned. Now that I believe this thread is a hoax, it doesn't seem that "Brain"/"Damon" is concerned about you finding anything out about him. In fact, it's appears as though he's encouraging you to Richie, in order to make a mockery of you.

Albert Applebaum

I still don't see anywhere that I worshipped brian/damon/whoever.... but think what you may. In no way am I associated with him, but yet again....think what you may.

 

[Brian Oakley]

Youa re right, you do need a reference. They just "appear" quite thin (like they are younger than that), that is all I was implying.
As far as breeding, I am well aware of how it works. Done a few years myself. Let me re-phrase what I said, they do not even remotely look like they are tangled up and locked up. If it is the male that is going under the other (female?), it might have better luck if it had it's **** down by her vent rather than (by the way the pic looks) about 4-5 inches above it.
Is that specific enough.
Glad I could entertain everyone being that I am so funny.

 

[Chris Kennard]

Weedqueen...

"In respect of Al's wishes,
I nominate the new names for Chris (Boapit) and Al (Anaconda Al) be :
Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber respectively".

Muuuaaaahahahahahahahahahaha! Too funny!!! You and Wes should combine your routine like Abbott and Costello.

"I just quit reading their posts altoether as they are nonsense".

You've been reading this thread, and have waited til, now just to submit this? Hmmm.

"While twisting peoples words may be a talent admired by lawyers, politicians and car salesmen, it certainly does not indicate a high level of intellect nor does it help with the fact finding process that the majority of us on the BOI are interested in. The only thing it does do, is detract from the actual topic the thread is about".

Are you so arrogant that you think I am here specifically to provide YOU something that you are "interested in"? Guess again.

"I have never put anyone on the BOI on my ignore list, but I am seriously contemplating it with these two".

Oh please God no! Not the "Ignore list! Anything but that!!!



IMHO these two have shown they have little, if any, respect for anyone here and I have yet to see them conciously contribute anything helpful.

And you are here ...why? Where is your "helpful" contribution to this thread other than to spout your obvious hatred for myself and Anaconda (not that I care)? An ulterior motive? Perhaps. Are you still angry that we exposed your pal Fred Albury.


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[Brian Oakley]

Check that...........maybe about 2-3 inches higher than it should be in order to be "breeding" like says they were.

DAMON..........COME JOIN THE PARTY, I MISS ALL YOU BS AND TWISTED STORIES THAT YOU TELL.

 

[Wilomn]

chris, I know you can't see me but let's pretend you can.

I'm looking you right in the eye, not in a mean way, more incredulous than anything else, and asking, once again mind you, WHAT IS THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD???

Wes Pollock

and just in case you had forgotten it's brain/damon/josh NOT Wendy or anyone else here.

 

[CaptainSlackass]

The events that occured surrounding the incident with "Brian Smith" in the fall of 2002 are accurate.

Thank you Jay. You're a real class act. With this having been said, I'd like to bow out of this conversation. I've said my peace, and that's all I ever meant to do.

I'll continue to watch the thread, but I'm done as an active participant.

Patrick-

 

[Chris Kennard]

Wus...

"chris, I know you can't see me but let's pretend you can."

No, you pretend. Your condescention is puerile at best.

"I'm looking you right in the eye, not in a mean way, more incredulous than anything else, and asking, once again mind you, WHAT IS THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD???"

Puh-lease!

Wes Pollock

"and just in case you had forgotten it's brain/damon/josh NOT Wendy or anyone else here".

Just in case you had forgotten, Wendy came here unprovoked by either Anaconda or myself to bash us with her inane post. Wise up Wes.


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[herpetological]

There is a reference... The paper and standard newsprint size. They may very well be CLOSE to 15'. Copulation however, has not YET begun and generaly they would be positioned differently. Two possibilities? Just placed in that manner or copulation was not started/completed? If I was trying to prove a breeding I would definately have waited until I could get a shot of the copulation,ot just next to each other. Proves nothing? How about we get back to the subject of the thread. I've never heard of Damon? Then again I've only been in the business for 25 years or so? Doesn't mean a thing!!

 

[Brian Oakley]

Interesting, Raymond, I appreciate your input. Just for the record, I was not grasping at straws here, I was simply trying to show a trend of "stretching the truth" since I do not yet have proof he has lied. I agre with what you are saying about the positioning AND the size.
Secondly, it is nice to have someone come forward with the experience you have and clue us in regarding his (Damon's) past success. In other words, lack there of.

In one of the emails I posted in the long post of mine (I beleive it came form there, I have read alot over the last few days), Damon mentioned that he does not sell his stuff under the name Brian Smith. My question, and I feel a valid one under the current topic is who/what name does he sell under? Does he use yet another name other than Brian/Damon? I think we can all agree he does not use either of those or at least one of us here would remember a post made by him. With that said, no he does not have to use another site to sell things, but I know I have been to shows in his area and have never seen a table with him there either. THis community, like I have said in my emails to him, is NOT that big if you look at it from the grand scale of things. SOMEONE has to know what/when/where/how he is/was selling things. I personally just do not buy it.
I ask ALL who is reading this (I know ALOT more people read the BOI than those that post) to tell me they have purchased an animal from him. A couple of people who might come forward will not contest to him being a "big" breeder in the past. I am looking for some serious numbers, not newspaper posted ads here.

 

[HerpVenue]

Here is a pic of breeding size burms he was posting in fall of 2002

 

[HerpVenue]

here is another pic.
Now you are gonna say to yourselves.....
This Luna guy is crazy.
Compared to the dollar bill which is about 6 inches...those burms ARE breeding size.

Well I know the dimensions of breeding size burms.
Those burms are FAT and Healthy.
BUT
they are NOT breeding size.
Specially since he bought them in April 2002 as babies.

Now look at the head on this second pic.
I have a male that I power fed to get to breeding size in 18 months. My males head is no where the size of his males head.
And I had 18 months....he had from april till fall