This guy contacted me about an ad I placed looking for Balls, he sent me a link to his auction and after I checked it out I dropped him a line that I wasn't interested in the animal and explained why....my best guess is I hurt his feelings because he made a B-line to Faunas BOI to blast me for 1) turning down the option to purchase 2) finding similar animals for less money than he wanted. Anyways, here are the emails and a photo of his animal and copy of the auction, judge for yourselves.
Subj: Message about: Adult Female Balls and Weirdo Balls Wanted
Date: 8/20/2005 2:56:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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Let me know if you are interested.
http://www.reptileauction.com/cgi-b...?category=b_snake_ballpythons&item=1125634766
Steve
SPJ Herps
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Female Ball Python
CB 2004 female ball python.
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She is 32 inches and 560 grams.
Subj: Re: Message about: Adult Female Balls and Weirdo Balls Wanted
Date: 8/20/2005 3:05:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Briarpatch Herp
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Female yearlings bring an average of $100 +/- each, at this time I currently have about 25 I'm raising and don't really need anymore. I realize the animal weighs 500 grams already but an educated breeder only uses females that are over 1200grams and close to or over three years in age..........it's not in the animals best interest for health and longevity to do otherwise.
Wm
Subj: Re: Message about: Adult Female Balls and Weirdo Balls Wanted
Date: 8/20/2005 4:14:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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Good luck trying to buy yearling females for $100. Especially if they are oddball ones.
You may get a CH 05 for $100 but not a 560 gram CB yearling.
And I do realize she is still too young to breed. You also stated you were looking for odd ones. She has a lot of blushing so I thought you might be interested.
[email protected] wrote:
Female yearlings bring an average of $100 +/- each, at this time I currently have about 25 I'm raising and don't really need anymore. I realize the animal weighs 500 grams already but an educated breeder only uses females that are over 1200grams and close to or over three years in age..........it's not in the animals best interest for health and longevity to do otherwise.
Wm
Subj: Re: Message about: Adult Female Balls and Weirdo Balls Wanted
Date: 8/20/2005 5:53:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Briarpatch Herp
To:
[email protected]
No offense but she isn't what I would call odd looking, I also don't expect to find "odd" yearling females for $100..........I expect to find normal looking yearlings for that price and do so regularly - the 25 yearlings I mentioned to you previously are animals I purchased this year and paid between $100 and $150 for every single one of them. Check out Kingsnake.coms Ball Python classifieds and look at current pricing for 04 females............you are going to see some priced ungodly high but I guarantee you they never sell for that because a years worth of mice and rats simply isn't that expensive.
The female you have is a nice looking normal, by no means am I saying she's ugly or not worth anything.............what I am telling you is that there's absolutely nothing about her (that I could see in the photos) that a breeder would consider to be strange, odd, weird, abnormal or possibly genetic. Proving me wrong will be very easy once you sell the animal at her current size for substantially more than $150. True?
On a side note, from a breeders standpoint CH vs CB is a double edged sword, here's why......if you purchase and breed ALL normal CB Balls what's the chances of something genetic popping up? Damn near zero...........if you raise and breed a bunch of CH Balls what's the chances of something genetic popping up? VERY good and why? Because every single Ball morph there is originated from imported wild caught stock. The downside to CH babies is you occasionally wind up with pukers or they simply wont feed, these problems are seldom ever seen in CB animals. But once a CH animal is feeding regularly they will thrive every bit as good as CB animals do................it's the Bush babies and the WC adults that are a major pain in the ass!
This has really become drawn out and I feel like I've offended you...neither thing was my intention. What I should have simply done was briefly answered your original question "no thank you, I'm not interested" and kept all of my opinions and philosophies to myself..........I apologize for not doing so as well as for offending you.
Wm
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Wm Horn
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