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Buyers beware of Gracie aka Diana Mason
- Thread starter Caswell Herps
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gracie
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I take full responsiblity for what happened between Lori and I but would like a chance to explain myself.
At the begining of Feb some else had puchased my group of geckos for $165 shipped. As soon as the payment was made the temps up here dropped dramatically and didn't rise above 20 degrees for about a month and a half. The person who had bought the geckos at the time definately wanted them so I used the money to help purchased college books (I'm leaving again in June) I understand this was my first mistake. After about a month and a half the buyer decied they wanted a refund. I informed them that I would have to resell the geckos before I could refund her money and she agreed. I then resold the geckos to Lori's son Nick and paypalled the money they sent to me to the previous buyer. I then told them I would ship that thurs UPS. The place I went to ship is called Mail Boxes Ect. in Honesdale PA and they informed me that it would cost $112 to ship them overnight. Now, I've shipped many many reptiles out of this very place UPS and it's never cost me more than $35 so I was absolutely struck back by what they wanted to charge me and I knew Lori wouldn't want to pay an extra $112 to ship so I didn't. Later that night Lori's son Nick called me for the tracking number and I told him the situation and he was fine with it. I told him I would ship on Monday USPS. I hate using USPS, absolutely hate it. I rarely ever have packages arrive on time using them. Over the weekend I decided I would just keep the geckos and try to sell them locally since the only way I could ship was USPS and refund Lori her money. I had previously told Nick that the reason I need to sell them was to use the money they sent me to pay back a previous buyer so they knew I had to spend the money right away. I get paid on Fridays and thought that she would be okay with waiting a few days for her money back. Obviously she did mind but there wasn't anything I could really do about it. I did paypal her money back to her this morning in full. I truly apologize to Lori that all this had to come about, I admit to all my errors. I am a novice in the herp trade and am learning from my mistakes. I can promise the herp world that I'll never let anything like this happen again. Think what you want of me but I really didn't mean for this to turn out this way. I know what it feels like to get burned or screwed on a deal and most of you probably already know of one. Again, I apologize to Lori and Nick.
Diana Mason
I take full responsiblity for what happened between Lori and I but would like a chance to explain myself.
At the begining of Feb some else had puchased my group of geckos for $165 shipped. As soon as the payment was made the temps up here dropped dramatically and didn't rise above 20 degrees for about a month and a half. The person who had bought the geckos at the time definately wanted them so I used the money to help purchased college books (I'm leaving again in June) I understand this was my first mistake. After about a month and a half the buyer decied they wanted a refund. I informed them that I would have to resell the geckos before I could refund her money and she agreed. I then resold the geckos to Lori's son Nick and paypalled the money they sent to me to the previous buyer. I then told them I would ship that thurs UPS. The place I went to ship is called Mail Boxes Ect. in Honesdale PA and they informed me that it would cost $112 to ship them overnight. Now, I've shipped many many reptiles out of this very place UPS and it's never cost me more than $35 so I was absolutely struck back by what they wanted to charge me and I knew Lori wouldn't want to pay an extra $112 to ship so I didn't. Later that night Lori's son Nick called me for the tracking number and I told him the situation and he was fine with it. I told him I would ship on Monday USPS. I hate using USPS, absolutely hate it. I rarely ever have packages arrive on time using them. Over the weekend I decided I would just keep the geckos and try to sell them locally since the only way I could ship was USPS and refund Lori her money. I had previously told Nick that the reason I need to sell them was to use the money they sent me to pay back a previous buyer so they knew I had to spend the money right away. I get paid on Fridays and thought that she would be okay with waiting a few days for her money back. Obviously she did mind but there wasn't anything I could really do about it. I did paypal her money back to her this morning in full. I truly apologize to Lori that all this had to come about, I admit to all my errors. I am a novice in the herp trade and am learning from my mistakes. I can promise the herp world that I'll never let anything like this happen again. Think what you want of me but I really didn't mean for this to turn out this way. I know what it feels like to get burned or screwed on a deal and most of you probably already know of one. Again, I apologize to Lori and Nick.
Diana Mason
ms_terese
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Diana,
Thanks for telling your side. Looks like everything has worked out and some lessons have been learned.
Thanks for telling your side. Looks like everything has worked out and some lessons have been learned.
GinoInDaBronx
Atticus Finch Clone
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
Before we all go patting Diana on the back, let's think of this-your hard luck story just doesn't wash. So what if you had no money???Why didn't you just ship her the geckos??? You know, exactly like you promised??????
Gino (From Da Bronx) Beniquez
Before we all go patting Diana on the back, let's think of this-your hard luck story just doesn't wash. So what if you had no money???Why didn't you just ship her the geckos??? You know, exactly like you promised??????
Gino (From Da Bronx) Beniquez
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Ship them how, through a carrier she had no faith in, and that no one else recomends either (USPS) or the carrier that wanted $112.00. Granted she could have looked around for a different way to get them sent UPS. She did say that she had shipped from this place before for $35.00. I'm sure she questioned that amount when quoted, but if you are used to something costing one price and suddenly are quoted a much higher price you can figure one of two things. Either the price went up (way up in this case) or the person calculating the cost made a mistake. If she questioned the quote and was assured that it was correct what was she to do. make a big fuss over it with someone who probably couldn't do anythingf about it anyway.
Yes there are other shipping options, but some people are understanding when problems develope.
I am not saying anything at all here about the her having spent the money. That point has been made clear by several people. I am only addressing the issue that Gino brought up as to why she simply didn't ship the animals.
Steve Schindler
Yes there are other shipping options, but some people are understanding when problems develope.
I am not saying anything at all here about the her having spent the money. That point has been made clear by several people. I am only addressing the issue that Gino brought up as to why she simply didn't ship the animals.
Steve Schindler
Rob @ RK Reptiles
ballpythonmorphs.net
To be quite honest, the quoted prices are ridiculous. They have a chart that is given to them by UPS with the rates on it. If another price is quoted then that person does not know how to read the chart and you ask someone else there to read it.
All she would have had to do was package the animals up, take them to the UPS counter and ship them end of story. It would have only cost her about $35-$40 to ship them at the counter. I get so sick and tired of hearing this story that a mail boxes etc, or other shipping company like that is to blame. They are NOT the one to blame. If a person does not have 100% the ability to quickly ship the ordered item to the buyer then they DO NOT need to be selling PERIOD. Another thing, all a person has to do it log onto UPS website and sign up for an account which takes 5 minutes and they can charge it to their credit card or debit card and have the package picked up from their house. If a person wishes to use those kind of shipping companies (mail Boxes etc.) then they are taking the responsibility for the shipping. If you tell a customer you are going to ship on a day you ship on that day. If you run into a problem you immediately tell them and ship it at a time that is agreeable by the customer. Also if you take a payment for an animal you do not use that money until the animal is at the buyers and they are happy with the animal.
All she would have had to do was package the animals up, take them to the UPS counter and ship them end of story. It would have only cost her about $35-$40 to ship them at the counter. I get so sick and tired of hearing this story that a mail boxes etc, or other shipping company like that is to blame. They are NOT the one to blame. If a person does not have 100% the ability to quickly ship the ordered item to the buyer then they DO NOT need to be selling PERIOD. Another thing, all a person has to do it log onto UPS website and sign up for an account which takes 5 minutes and they can charge it to their credit card or debit card and have the package picked up from their house. If a person wishes to use those kind of shipping companies (mail Boxes etc.) then they are taking the responsibility for the shipping. If you tell a customer you are going to ship on a day you ship on that day. If you run into a problem you immediately tell them and ship it at a time that is agreeable by the customer. Also if you take a payment for an animal you do not use that money until the animal is at the buyers and they are happy with the animal.
Diana made the right thing by coming in here and accepting full responsibility for what happened. Probably a lesson learned.
But there are several things that could have been handled differently. This is not a criticism; it is just an opinion.
I agree with Rob's statement in the above quote. The customer has priority over other issues. I can understand when a problem suddenly arises, but this was not the case. The fact is that on Thursday evening Diana notified Nick she was going to ship Monday USPS. On Friday she got her pay check. Over the weekend she decides not to ship USPS but to put up the geckos for sale again instead (for the third time without having shipped them even once!). She could have sent the money order with the refund Monday overnight instead of the geckos.
The fact that you "hate" USPS shouldn't be the reason as of why you don't want to ship through them. The matter of concern should be that it's illegal to ship live reptiles through USPS.
Gecko_Den
New member
Regarding UPS
Rob, just to expand a bit on your statement regarding UPS. It's not quite as simple as you make it out to be. In order to ship the geckos from UPS she would need an account, as well as pre approval to ship the lizards. It is a simple process that requires a few phone calls and a few forms signed and faxed, takes about 7-10 days to get approved.
That being said, I 100% agree with you that if you don't have the shipping aspect figured out, no way should you even be advertising the animals.
Rob, just to expand a bit on your statement regarding UPS. It's not quite as simple as you make it out to be. In order to ship the geckos from UPS she would need an account, as well as pre approval to ship the lizards. It is a simple process that requires a few phone calls and a few forms signed and faxed, takes about 7-10 days to get approved.
That being said, I 100% agree with you that if you don't have the shipping aspect figured out, no way should you even be advertising the animals.
Rob @ RK Reptiles
ballpythonmorphs.net
Sam,
Under normal circumstancees yes it takes a little to get approved but I know a ton of people who ship their live animals with UPS that have not been through the process like I and others have. On the web site they can do the shipment and prepay for it and still need to mark the box as live reptiles and such. Once the package has been paid for they will be able to ship it. I am not saying this is something that should be done all the time but it coule be accomplished without a big headache specially for one shipment.
Under normal circumstancees yes it takes a little to get approved but I know a ton of people who ship their live animals with UPS that have not been through the process like I and others have. On the web site they can do the shipment and prepay for it and still need to mark the box as live reptiles and such. Once the package has been paid for they will be able to ship it. I am not saying this is something that should be done all the time but it coule be accomplished without a big headache specially for one shipment.
Gecko_Den
New member
Rob,
Thanks, I was unaware of that, when I set my UPS account I just went through the routine of getting an account and the pre-approval to ship, since I was planning on shipping often.
Thanks, I was unaware of that, when I set my UPS account I just went through the routine of getting an account and the pre-approval to ship, since I was planning on shipping often.
Wilomn
New member
USPS will ship lizards under 20" in length.
525.3 Reptiles
All snakes, turtles, and poisonous reptiles are nonmailable.
525.4 Poisonous Insects and Spiders
All poisonous insects and spiders, except scorpions under limited
circumstances (see 526.5), are nonmailable. Other nonpoisonous and
nondisease-conveying insects are permitted as stated in DMM C022.3.8 and
in Exhibit 526.6.
526 Mailable Live Animals
526.1 General
Some animals are mailable under proper conditions. See the specific
instructions as noted for the following kinds of animals:
a. Live bees, 526.2 and Exhibit 526.21.
b. Live day-old poultry, 526.3 and Exhibit 526.32.
c. Live adult fowl, 526.4.
d. Live scorpions (only under limited circumstances), 526.5 and Exhibit
526.5.
e. Other small harmless cold-blooded animals, 526.6 and Exhibit 526.6.
f. Dead animals or parts of animals, 526.7 and Exhibit 526.7.
All snakes, turtles, and poisonous reptiles are nonmailable.
525.4 Poisonous Insects and Spiders
All poisonous insects and spiders, except scorpions under limited
circumstances (see 526.5), are nonmailable. Other nonpoisonous and
nondisease-conveying insects are permitted as stated in DMM C022.3.8 and
in Exhibit 526.6.
526 Mailable Live Animals
526.1 General
Some animals are mailable under proper conditions. See the specific
instructions as noted for the following kinds of animals:
a. Live bees, 526.2 and Exhibit 526.21.
b. Live day-old poultry, 526.3 and Exhibit 526.32.
c. Live adult fowl, 526.4.
d. Live scorpions (only under limited circumstances), 526.5 and Exhibit
526.5.
e. Other small harmless cold-blooded animals, 526.6 and Exhibit 526.6.
f. Dead animals or parts of animals, 526.7 and Exhibit 526.7.
Wilomn,
Thanks for pointing that out. You are right, the list of "exceptions" includes lizards. Here is the list of reptiles you can ship USPS if their size and packaging is appropriate:
Baby Alligators
Baby Caimans
Chameleons
Lizards
_ Animals must not exceed 20 inches in
length.
_ No additional requirements other than the
applicable standards in DMM C022.
_ Packaging must comply with DMM
C022.3.10.
_ Animals must not exceed 20 inches in
length.
_ No additional requirements other than the
applicable standards in DMM C022.
_ Packaging must comply with DMM
C022.3.10.
BTW, you need to post your full name, if not your post will be deleted.
Regards.
Thanks for pointing that out. You are right, the list of "exceptions" includes lizards. Here is the list of reptiles you can ship USPS if their size and packaging is appropriate:
Baby Alligators
Baby Caimans
Chameleons
Lizards
_ Animals must not exceed 20 inches in
length.
_ No additional requirements other than the
applicable standards in DMM C022.
_ Packaging must comply with DMM
C022.3.10.
_ Animals must not exceed 20 inches in
length.
_ No additional requirements other than the
applicable standards in DMM C022.
_ Packaging must comply with DMM
C022.3.10.
BTW, you need to post your full name, if not your post will be deleted.
Regards.
JUST A QUSTION
Hi everyone I just have a qustion when gracie replyed ( i think thats on page 3) she stated that she HAS shipped MANY reptiles thru ups befor so didnt she already have an account???????
Hi everyone I just have a qustion when gracie replyed ( i think thats on page 3) she stated that she HAS shipped MANY reptiles thru ups befor so didnt she already have an account???????
Re: JUST A QUSTION
You do not need an account to ship via UPS.
Not to be rude, but...You should probably work on your reading comprehension, spelling, and grammar before trying to find fault with someone else.
Snake_Woman_24 said:
You do not need an account to ship via UPS.
Not to be rude, but...You should probably work on your reading comprehension, spelling, and grammar before trying to find fault with someone else.
G-LOCK
I am sorry if my spelling or anything els offended you i am not PERFECT at it and i was NOT pointing out ANYONES faults i was asking a qustion and i am sorry if you took that offenceive but what you said WAS rude and VERY offencevie to me i am sorry that i do not know how to spell and everything els to mee your approvel i did not know that in order to post everything had to be perfect i thought that it would be ok as long as pepole could read it and understand it... And as far as me needing to work on my "reading" mabey YOU need to do the same i am sorry if this sounds rude but if you would have read my last reply i ASKED" if the lady had shiped many reptiles befor as she stated then didnt she already have an account" forgive me if i am wrong but i do belive that is a qustion if it helps YOU any let me reask it...
Hi everyone I just have a ? (just put the mark since i cant spell it right).. In Gracie posted for her side of the store (on page three I think) she stated that she had shipped many of reptiles thru ups befor so doe that mean that she already has an account???(not shure if I spelled that right sorry).. now the reson i asked that is becouse everyone was talking about ups acconts.. Agin I am sorry if you take this the wrong way but I took what you said the wrong way and if this offends you I am sorry and for the record I think you need to not be rude about pepole that are not perfect at there spelling gramer ecxt.. becouse some pepole like myself are not the greatest at it as you can see but we try and at least you can read it and that is all that should matter... THANK YOU SPUTNIK FOR STANDING UP FOR ME IT IS GREATLEY APP.
I am sorry if my spelling or anything els offended you i am not PERFECT at it and i was NOT pointing out ANYONES faults i was asking a qustion and i am sorry if you took that offenceive but what you said WAS rude and VERY offencevie to me i am sorry that i do not know how to spell and everything els to mee your approvel i did not know that in order to post everything had to be perfect i thought that it would be ok as long as pepole could read it and understand it... And as far as me needing to work on my "reading" mabey YOU need to do the same i am sorry if this sounds rude but if you would have read my last reply i ASKED" if the lady had shiped many reptiles befor as she stated then didnt she already have an account" forgive me if i am wrong but i do belive that is a qustion if it helps YOU any let me reask it...
Hi everyone I just have a ? (just put the mark since i cant spell it right).. In Gracie posted for her side of the store (on page three I think) she stated that she had shipped many of reptiles thru ups befor so doe that mean that she already has an account???(not shure if I spelled that right sorry).. now the reson i asked that is becouse everyone was talking about ups acconts.. Agin I am sorry if you take this the wrong way but I took what you said the wrong way and if this offends you I am sorry and for the record I think you need to not be rude about pepole that are not perfect at there spelling gramer ecxt.. becouse some pepole like myself are not the greatest at it as you can see but we try and at least you can read it and that is all that should matter... THANK YOU SPUTNIK FOR STANDING UP FOR ME IT IS GREATLEY APP.
Christa
Mother Of Many
1.4 Het Blizzards BAD DEAL!!!!!
I was the person before Lori that had paid for the 1.4 hets.. The first week that I paid for the Leos the weather was pretty good and I expected her to ship them out that week but insted I get this e mail
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
I'm real real sorry, but it's looks like I'm going to have to ship tomorrow. My cat thought it would be fun to play with the shipping box and ripped apart all the styrofoam insulation. Don't worry though, First thing tomorrow I'm going out and picking up another box and sending him out next day ups. I'm real real sorry. I hope you understand. Thanks. Diana
To Which I replyed
FiReAcId <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
Yeah that's ok cat's are funny that way. Just to clarify you're sending out all 5 geckos tomorow wedensday the 12th.
Thanks
Christa
She then informs me that the weather is to cold to ship and it goes on like this for a few weeks ... Either I cancel or she does due to weather.
I can post all those e mails if you want .
But then the weather starts to warm up. And she sends me this mail
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Tomorrow's supposed to be a little warmer so I'll be shipping then. I'll let you know tomorrow when I get them out. Thanks again. Diana
Only to follow up that very next day that she won't be shipping cause the weather is to cold. I tell her that it's ok yet again.
She then sends me this Mail...
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Well, by bad luck struck again and I woke up this morning to another 7 inches of snow so I'm gonna have to ship on monday. I real real sorry, if I could control the weather I would but mother nature said no shipping today. I have another female 100% het blizz leo I may be willing to part with but I'd need to think about it a little. Hey, did you hear we caught bin laden? Thanks and sorry again. Diana
And says that she will ship on Monday.. I send her a mail on 3/10
----- Original Message -----
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Hello, Just wodnering what's going on.
thanks
Christa
To which I get NO reply
Then On Tuseday I take the day off from work wich is roughly$100 out of my pay check to sit and wait for geckos that never come.
I then send her this mail...
----- Original Message -----
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Hello,
I am writing this e mail yet again in regards to my leopard geckos. I have been very patience through this whole deal. I have been patience over a cat ripping up a box, and over weather being bad, of which there where times that _I_ asked you not to ship. The weather I can understand. The cat thing as trying as it was to read that mail I understood. But you telling me that you where going to ship on Monday and then not shipping, not e mailing me, not informing me, and I going through the effort of staying home yesterday has made me very upset. I try to believe that things go wrong and that there are reasons for everything, so long as I am informed. I over look things that maybe I shouldn’t. As of this moment I would like one of two things to happen. 1.) You send me back my money and we call the deal done. Or 2.) You ship out my leopard geckos.
With out response to this e-mail I will inform you that I will be forced to take some sort of action.
Thank you,
Christa Rucker
And this was after sending her many messages asking what was going on.
I get a reply
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
I'm very very sorry I haven't emailed you. I haven't had acces to a computer for the past few days. The temperature on monday never went above 25 and it'll be that way all week. This comming monday is supposed to be in the 50's as is the rest of the week so monday is a definate for shipping. If it turns out to be too cold again this weekend I'll send your money back to you. Again, please forgive me for not emailing you, a lot of crap is going on in my life right now.Thanks again so much for being so patient. Diana
Now yet again I shrug my shoulders and say "things happen".....
BUT the weather out there wasn't cold I have weather bug and I looked her up and it was in the upper 40's so that was an OUT RIGHT LIE!!!!
And I don't like being lied to.
SO I send her this mail
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
I really hate to do this to you but at this time I think it's best if I just ask for my money back. I checked with Weather Bug and the over all forcast for the rest of the week looks pretty good. I understand that life can get hectic but me taking off time to sit around my house after you telling me you were going to ship makes me feel that this deal is going south in a fast way.
Thank you for your time and understanding.
Christa Rucker
And I get NO reply
SO I send
----- Original Message -----
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
I'm sending you this message again just in case that you didn't get the last one. I think it would be best at this time if I just asked for my money back. This is a second attempt to reach you by e mail. I'm sorry to say but I looked at the over all forcast for your area this week and Wendesday and Thursday where both in the upper 40's with a low of 32. I just feel with the wasted time I put in on Tuesday this deal is no longer worth the cost. Thanks again.
Christa
to which I GET NO REPLY...
I then send a LAST DITCH effort mail
----- Original Message -----
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
This is the third e mail that I am writing you to ask you to please refund the monies I sent for the 1.4 leopard geckos. If I do not have a reply to this e mail by tomorrow Monday March the 17 I will be forced to contact Pay Pal and have them settle this matter. Other actions may inclued posting on the Fauna BIO and King Snake.
I do not wish to settle this with third parties.
Thanks
Christa
I'm one of those people three strikes and your out kinda thing....
WELL GUESS WHO WRITES BACK
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Sorry, I haven't been home to check my email all weekend. I can't send the money to you paypal as I have no money in my bank right now but I do have cash and I can send you a postal money order so please send me your Full name and address. Sorry again and I wish this could have worked out, I know you would have loved the leos. Thanks again. Diana
Funny how when I come to bottom line threats she replys. Maybe it's just me but it seems a little strange ... then again maybe her computer was on the blink.
I send her my address...
and then later she send me a mail saying that she can pay pal me the money and needed my pay pal addy.
I send that to her and get my money back.
I wouldn't have posted on here IF it hadn't been that Lori and her Son got messed around with pretty much the same deal.
So that's the long story there.
I can post all the e mails if you guys want back and forth. But that's the meat of it all
Thanks
Christa Rucker
I was the person before Lori that had paid for the 1.4 hets.. The first week that I paid for the Leos the weather was pretty good and I expected her to ship them out that week but insted I get this e mail
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
I'm real real sorry, but it's looks like I'm going to have to ship tomorrow. My cat thought it would be fun to play with the shipping box and ripped apart all the styrofoam insulation. Don't worry though, First thing tomorrow I'm going out and picking up another box and sending him out next day ups. I'm real real sorry. I hope you understand. Thanks. Diana
To Which I replyed
FiReAcId <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
Yeah that's ok cat's are funny that way. Just to clarify you're sending out all 5 geckos tomorow wedensday the 12th.
Thanks
Christa
She then informs me that the weather is to cold to ship and it goes on like this for a few weeks ... Either I cancel or she does due to weather.
I can post all those e mails if you want .
But then the weather starts to warm up. And she sends me this mail
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Tomorrow's supposed to be a little warmer so I'll be shipping then. I'll let you know tomorrow when I get them out. Thanks again. Diana
Only to follow up that very next day that she won't be shipping cause the weather is to cold. I tell her that it's ok yet again.
She then sends me this Mail...
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Well, by bad luck struck again and I woke up this morning to another 7 inches of snow so I'm gonna have to ship on monday. I real real sorry, if I could control the weather I would but mother nature said no shipping today. I have another female 100% het blizz leo I may be willing to part with but I'd need to think about it a little. Hey, did you hear we caught bin laden? Thanks and sorry again. Diana
And says that she will ship on Monday.. I send her a mail on 3/10
----- Original Message -----
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Hello, Just wodnering what's going on.
thanks
Christa
To which I get NO reply
Then On Tuseday I take the day off from work wich is roughly$100 out of my pay check to sit and wait for geckos that never come.
I then send her this mail...
----- Original Message -----
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Hello,
I am writing this e mail yet again in regards to my leopard geckos. I have been very patience through this whole deal. I have been patience over a cat ripping up a box, and over weather being bad, of which there where times that _I_ asked you not to ship. The weather I can understand. The cat thing as trying as it was to read that mail I understood. But you telling me that you where going to ship on Monday and then not shipping, not e mailing me, not informing me, and I going through the effort of staying home yesterday has made me very upset. I try to believe that things go wrong and that there are reasons for everything, so long as I am informed. I over look things that maybe I shouldn’t. As of this moment I would like one of two things to happen. 1.) You send me back my money and we call the deal done. Or 2.) You ship out my leopard geckos.
With out response to this e-mail I will inform you that I will be forced to take some sort of action.
Thank you,
Christa Rucker
And this was after sending her many messages asking what was going on.
I get a reply
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
I'm very very sorry I haven't emailed you. I haven't had acces to a computer for the past few days. The temperature on monday never went above 25 and it'll be that way all week. This comming monday is supposed to be in the 50's as is the rest of the week so monday is a definate for shipping. If it turns out to be too cold again this weekend I'll send your money back to you. Again, please forgive me for not emailing you, a lot of crap is going on in my life right now.Thanks again so much for being so patient. Diana
Now yet again I shrug my shoulders and say "things happen".....
BUT the weather out there wasn't cold I have weather bug and I looked her up and it was in the upper 40's so that was an OUT RIGHT LIE!!!!
And I don't like being lied to.
SO I send her this mail
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
I really hate to do this to you but at this time I think it's best if I just ask for my money back. I checked with Weather Bug and the over all forcast for the rest of the week looks pretty good. I understand that life can get hectic but me taking off time to sit around my house after you telling me you were going to ship makes me feel that this deal is going south in a fast way.
Thank you for your time and understanding.
Christa Rucker
And I get NO reply
SO I send
----- Original Message -----
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
I'm sending you this message again just in case that you didn't get the last one. I think it would be best at this time if I just asked for my money back. This is a second attempt to reach you by e mail. I'm sorry to say but I looked at the over all forcast for your area this week and Wendesday and Thursday where both in the upper 40's with a low of 32. I just feel with the wasted time I put in on Tuesday this deal is no longer worth the cost. Thanks again.
Christa
to which I GET NO REPLY...
I then send a LAST DITCH effort mail
----- Original Message -----
From: FiReAcId
To: Diana Mason
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
This is the third e mail that I am writing you to ask you to please refund the monies I sent for the 1.4 leopard geckos. If I do not have a reply to this e mail by tomorrow Monday March the 17 I will be forced to contact Pay Pal and have them settle this matter. Other actions may inclued posting on the Fauna BIO and King Snake.
I do not wish to settle this with third parties.
Thanks
Christa
I'm one of those people three strikes and your out kinda thing....
WELL GUESS WHO WRITES BACK
----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Mason
To: FiReAcId
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Blizard Geckos
Sorry, I haven't been home to check my email all weekend. I can't send the money to you paypal as I have no money in my bank right now but I do have cash and I can send you a postal money order so please send me your Full name and address. Sorry again and I wish this could have worked out, I know you would have loved the leos. Thanks again. Diana
Funny how when I come to bottom line threats she replys. Maybe it's just me but it seems a little strange ... then again maybe her computer was on the blink.
I send her my address...
and then later she send me a mail saying that she can pay pal me the money and needed my pay pal addy.
I send that to her and get my money back.
I wouldn't have posted on here IF it hadn't been that Lori and her Son got messed around with pretty much the same deal.
So that's the long story there.
I can post all the e mails if you guys want back and forth. But that's the meat of it all
Thanks
Christa Rucker
MESSED AROUND
Your post is exactly what should be on this BOI
It certainly does raise a few questions. Having read your post with the email exchanges it appears that Diana Mason is someone that is either extremely unlucky with weather conditions or is too careless in leaving packing materials where they can be damaged?
Did she have your phone number?
If so, then she should of called and told you that she woldn't be shipping the day she said she would.... a simple call would of saved you $100 out of your paycheck.
Diana should be notified of your posting to explain her side of the story. I am sure we will hear about the weather and the cat, but if she had your number then there is no excuse for not letting you know she wouldn't ship the day quoted.
Your post is exactly what should be on this BOI
It certainly does raise a few questions. Having read your post with the email exchanges it appears that Diana Mason is someone that is either extremely unlucky with weather conditions or is too careless in leaving packing materials where they can be damaged?
Did she have your phone number?
If so, then she should of called and told you that she woldn't be shipping the day she said she would.... a simple call would of saved you $100 out of your paycheck.
Diana should be notified of your posting to explain her side of the story. I am sure we will hear about the weather and the cat, but if she had your number then there is no excuse for not letting you know she wouldn't ship the day quoted.
Christa
Mother Of Many
No I didn't give her my number and I didn't have hers. Something I will know better not to be with out in the future.
BUT even with that said Diana had Lori's number and when she didn't ship for Lori she didn't call Lori either. Nick (Lori's son) is the one who had to call her to find out what was going on.
And Yes I do belive this post has been pointed out to Diana as she poste back some three odd pages ago.
I'm not sure if she's looked at the other posts on this page.... but my guess would be yes....
Just my .02s Cents
Christa Rucker
BUT even with that said Diana had Lori's number and when she didn't ship for Lori she didn't call Lori either. Nick (Lori's son) is the one who had to call her to find out what was going on.
And Yes I do belive this post has been pointed out to Diana as she poste back some three odd pages ago.
I'm not sure if she's looked at the other posts on this page.... but my guess would be yes....
Just my .02s Cents
Christa Rucker