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Bad Guy California Zoological Supply - Horrible Scam.

fbergman30 said:
The police don't investigate herp related crimes. I bet if I was walking my iguana or burmese python down the block and some old lady saw and called the police they would be there in no time with a shiny new pair of hand cuffs for me and everything. But as for major theft and fraud, forget about it, that would involve thinking.
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This is the funniest thing I have ever read. "Sorry sir, thats a herp related crime" not "sorry sir, thats a civil matter, you'll have to go to claims court" no its "the police dont investigate herp related crimes."
If they dont investigate herp related crimes, why would they show up if an old lady called and complained that there was iguana? LOL! Are you for real? I bet NOT!

Lets see some proof buddy, emails, maybe a tracking number, the pictures of your snakes, phone records, a picture with your name on it...ANYTHING!
 
HA, Im sorry to post multiple times in a row but I couldnt resist....

fbergman30 said:
go send your snakes zoocal and whoever else you want and let them all pay you tomorrow real intelligent I'm sure that will all work out great for you. BTW, if you really think that trusting someone with your money is such a good idea your also a moron
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....Isn't that the exact same thing you did and are now griping about it? So what does that make you?
This is too rich. Are you sure you actually put the snakes in the box before you sent it?

Im sorry but there is just no validity to any of this. Regardless of whether Cal Zoo has put their proprietors name on their profile here, this is just an obvious attempt to tarnish their overall good reputation.
 
I just received an infraction for quoting this guys profanity. My bad. Too bad the website isnt designed to just censor or delete that like other more well designed and laid out websites are.
 
What does your infraction have to do with this thread? If you want to discuss infractions, or how this site is set up, please take your comments to the appropriate forum (Fauna Feedback Forum). They are disruptive and off topic in this one (that's another infraction - consider this a friendly warning).
 
I have known Ty for a long time and consider him a good friend. He has purchase 24 tegus from me, in two shipments within last few month. I received my first check with in a week and when I forgot to email him the invoice for the second shipment, he sent me a friendly reminder to do so...so he can pay me....and I have received the second check within few days after that. From my interaction with him in the past, he can be totally trusted.
 
Another coincidence?

MiniDragons said:
Police didn't do anything ? Did they even look into it at all ?
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fbergman30 said:
These guys did the same exact thing to me. I sent them 4 albino ball pythons... pythons ! same exact snakes ! ..out NO !.
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fbergman30 said:
You guys are a bunch of idiots. Your saying mini dragons is a scammer because he is warning you of a potential scam ? ..money first ? Or by telling you to use PayPal ? Are you retarted ? Second it is ... You think I have to prove anything to you ? I don't give a ...
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Gotta love it when someone just isn't quite clever enough to hide unique little tell-tale quirks. Notice how the writings on both accounts happen to have the very same habit of leaving a space between the last letter of their sentence, and any punctuation mark other than a period. Not exactly conclusive evidence, but fairly noteworthy, I think.
 
I have done business with Ty Dillon at Cal Zoo for 25 years. I have found him to be very reputable and honest and these accusations don't match the experiences we have had over the many years we have done business together.
 
I've only bought from, never sold to, CalZoo, but they've always been a good, reputable wholesaler in my book. Never had a bit of problem with them.
 
ApexPredatorBoids said:
Gotta love it when someone just isn't quite clever enough to hide unique little tell-tale quirks. Notice how the writings on both accounts happen to have the very same habit of leaving a space between the last letter of their sentence, and any punctuation mark other than a period. Not exactly conclusive evidence, but fairly noteworthy, I think.
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Now, YOU are a puncuation splatter detective on Fauna! Good catch!
 
fbergman30 said:
You guys are a bunch of idiots. … go send your snakes zoocal and whoever else you want and let them all pay you tomorrow real intelligent I'm sure that will all work out great for you. BTW, if you really think that trusting someone with your money is such a good idea your also a moron
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Did you seriously jus call yourself a moron?
 
KORBIN5895 said:
Did you seriously jus call yourself a moron?
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Can one get an infraction if they call them self's a name? I still wonder what op's real reason for starting this thread. I'm assuming he is upset he couldn't get instant cash.
 
I'm rather disappointed that the OP hasn't bothered to log in (at least with this account) since the day he initiated this thread.
 
Over the years we have sold a good number of animals to Ty at Cal Zoo ( In person and shipped ). He was always pleasant and his checks always cleared. It's been a while since we have sold to him, but I don't see why he would have changed so drastically.
 
I have done deals with Ty and had very pleasant experiences. It worked the same as you say, they send a prepaid label, and pay for the animals after they receive and confirm health. Ty paid me as promised and I have nothing bad to say about the transaction.

In regards to the police being involved, I am a police officer. I can tell you the police will not become involved because this is a civil disagreement. If Ty had come to your house and stolen the animals, that qualifies as a theft and they would become involved. However that is not what happened. You guys made a verbal agreement to send the animals and pay later. The "agreement" went bad and is now a disagreement, which is not a police matter. You can still pursue the incident, however it will be through civil court, not through the police.

You will have to hire an attorney and sue Ty via civil court. The police become involved in forceable crimes where something is stolen with intent of being stolen. Your deal was not started as a theft, but rather a deal which became a disagreement, which is not a police matter.

I hope this makes sense? I do not check this forum often, if you have any questions I would be more than happy to try to help, please e-mail me personally at [email protected]

Please do not bash the police anymore for their lack of cooperation. They're only doing their job the way it's supposed to be done. Civil disagreements are not within the job requirements.

Tony
 
Might wanna read the whole thread. Everything points to the extremely likely scenario that there was no transaction at all.
 
Cal Zoo

Just want to say I have sold Ty at Cal Zoo several shipments over last few years. I always send the ball pythons first and within a week I always receive a check from Ty for the agreed upon amount. Can't ask for more and happy to do business with them.

John Manser
 
I also have done business with Cal Zoo and have met Ty at Daytona several times in the years past.I have sold to him personally and shipped animals to him on a few occasions and i can honestly say he can be fully trusted. I always shipped first and the checks arrived promptly and he even sent me an official Cal Zoo shirt,lol. He has been in the business longer than most of us have been alive. I seriously doubt he is the problem here.
 
I found the information about differentiating a civil issue from a criminal issue both interesting and useful. I came to this thread looking to buy from / potentially sell to CalZoo. I actually have an order ready to be placed. Enough reputable people have confirmed good transactions, and it seems like a great way to get to get a breeder's excess to other shops without the breeder having to do a lot of running around. I was wondering if it was possible to change the "bad guy thread" icon of the red circle with a question mark or something else since this didn't end up being a legit bad guy thread at all. When I first saw the title of the thread, I thought, "oh great, I knew it was too good to be true." But after reading the entire thread, the content doesn't quite match the title. Thanks either way!
 
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