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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

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    Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.

    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

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    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Can't seem to reply in my own threads...

RidgeTop Reptiles said:
As far as I know... Im the only one that was talking about being a business.... and I am.... I DO file everything on my taxes and I claim all income. I have an accountant that does my business/personal taxes.

So if your slinging mud my way... you might want to prepair for the backsplatter.
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I think you'll notice that I keep putting "business" in quotes... I'm talking about the people that call themselves "<MyNameHere> Reptiles" and talk about their "business" when everyone knows they have a couple Ball Pythons in their basement and might sell a few babies to their local pet store. These are the types of people that have no money to spend running a business because, as I said, they're not really a business... they are a "pretend business".

Don't worry man, if I have something to say to you, you'll know... ;)
 
Mister Internet said:
"So wait, you mean you can't create a business name, collect money for goods or services, and NOT claim it on your taxes? That's why I didn't incorporate, so it would be legal to not pay taxes on anything I make! It's called a Sole Proprietorship, and it means you don't have to pay any business taxes..." (actually had someone say that to me once)
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ah.. sole proprietorship... gotta love it. you get to pay taxes on the money TWICE for the whole self employment deal. blah. did contract work for a few years and the money from my primary job that I would have gotten as a 'tax refund' went to pay the tax owed for the contract work..even after doing all the legal expense deductions.
 
Gloryhound said:
Regardless of having a business name or not, if you sell stuff at a yard sale and sell more than a given dollar value (don't remember it off the top of my head) your supposed to claim taxes on it.
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Technically it doesn't matter how much you sell.. ANY income you take in legally has to be recorded. gramma give you $25 for your birthday.. that's income. sell some stuff on ebay... that's income. cut the neighbor's yard... that's income. sold some lemonade.. that's income. The tipping point is when you total up all of your income and go through the process of filling out the tax form.. at some point you check the tax table to see if you crossed the line or not to determine if you owe any tax on the money you made... it's why the tax forms includes that line for "other income not already reported via w-2's, etc."
 
I still don't get it.............ad bumping is not ok unless you pay to do it? Now instead of seeing a whole bunch of ads over and over all I see is the paid customers ads over and over. Seems to be the same thing but atleast people saw more animals with everyone being able to bump.
 
What it was is a benefit of contributing was to have the bump/highlite feature. If people who pay see people getting freebies then why should they pay for the same service? You can look at it like the flea market, if u wanna be on the main isle then u gotta pay more. If u dont wanna pay that amount then pick a side isle. Its just economics, and im sure Rich dont wanna pay for this site outta pocket...

If u want just leave the ad with unanswered questions and answer them to get the free bump.
 
MitsuMike said:
I still don't get it.............ad bumping is not ok unless you pay to do it? Now instead of seeing a whole bunch of ads over and over all I see is the paid customers ads over and over. Seems to be the same thing but atleast people saw more animals with everyone being able to bump.
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No. People got to see MORE of the SAME ads showing the SAME animals bumped over and over again.

Apparently some people are of the impression that if they keep on throwing their ads into the faces of viewers that eventually those viewers will get worn down enough to where they actually BUY the animals just so they can stop having to see those ads several times a day. :rolleyes:

I chose to enforce the fact that I am offering bumping as a perk to paying members and denying that option to non-paying members. To those non paying members this has pissed off, well, I'm VERY sorry that my giving you the opportunity to advertise your animals on this site for FREE is just not enough for you.
 
WebSlave said:
No. People got to see MORE of the SAME ads showing the SAME animals bumped over and over again.

Apparently some people are of the impression that if they keep on throwing their ads into the faces of viewers that eventually those viewers will get worn down enough to where they actually BUY the animals just so they can stop having to see those ads several times a day. :rolleyes:

I chose to enforce the fact that I am offering bumping as a perk to paying members and denying that option to non-paying members. To those non paying members this has pissed off, well, I'm VERY sorry that my giving you the opportunity to advertise your animals on this site for FREE is just not enough for you.
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I mean it's not like your not making money with all the ads or anything.......give me a break. Money is made on ads not "donating" members. And all I see now IS THE SAME ADS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, just now they are from people who paid to do it.

Wow and get all high and mightly on your internet throne why don't you. I find it funny that advertising for free here was fine until this so called "bumping issue" came to be. Other sites do a damn good job of keeping everything free with just ads and small donations. There is something else going on here and it has nothing to do with bumping. I smell something fishy. But it is the decision of the site so your going to do it no matter what people say.
 
Michael, you dont like it here, leave. and dont let the door hit your :censored: on your way out.

you still can create ads for free. just need to be a paid member to push them to the top. so you need to get off YOUR soapbox and stop waving your arms like an idiot with conspiracy theories.
 
MitsuMike said:
Other sites do a damn good job of keeping everything free with just ads and small donations. There is something else going on here and it has nothing to do with bumping. I smell something fishy. But it is the decision of the site so your going to do it no matter what people say.
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I'm going to say it again...because maybe you didn't read so well the earlier parts of this thread. Show me another site anywhere on the 'Net where you can STILL advertise for FREE that has even 1/4 of the traffic and ad-exposure that this one does. You can't!

All those "other sites" are being run on a much smaller scale and have entirely different management needs, as well. I dare you to try and start up your own ad site...build it to tens of thousands of members with hundreds of thousands of visitors...and then run it like a site with less than 20,000 members and visitors. Go on...try it.

But it is the decision of the site so your going to do it no matter what people say.
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Gotta address this specific point. "No matter what people say"...what people? A few whiny malcontents that believe the world should be handed to them on a silver platter for free? People who give nothing and do nothing for the well being of the site, but demand all the perks and privileges of those who DO help out? What about all the people who WANTED controls on the excessive bumping issues? Don't they get a say in the matter? Which "people" are more worthy of being listened to? Hmmmm?
 
Haha this is fun. Do you guys always get so defensive when ppl disagree with you? I bet you do real well at work.
I was not saying anything bad with the whole charging for ad service I was just posting my opinions, I mean I can do that right? Or is there a charge for that as well?
If you don't like my opinions don't read them. And it is still fishy. If you want to say we decided to make money b/c it takes up so much time then just say it and get it over with. If this site takes up alot of your free time and may sometimes make your "work overtime" then just say we think we should make money off the site. It's understandable, but don't put bullshit up.
 
MitsuMike said:
I mean it's not like your not making money with all the ads or anything.......give me a break. Money is made on ads not "donating" members. And all I see now IS THE SAME ADS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, just now they are from people who paid to do it.

Wow and get all high and mightly on your internet throne why don't you. I find it funny that advertising for free here was fine until this so called "bumping issue" came to be. Other sites do a damn good job of keeping everything free with just ads and small donations. There is something else going on here and it has nothing to do with bumping. I smell something fishy. But it is the decision of the site so your going to do it no matter what people say.
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You are welcome to discuss things here but I'm not going to put up with the "fishy" comments and the derogatory unfounded remarks and accusations.
advertising for free here was fine until this so called "bumping issue" came to be.
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Get it through your head! Advertising is still free here. It use to not be. There were many threads in this very forum of members complaining about the bumping issue for years. The traffic has come to a point that it needed to be addressed. Got it!
 
MitsuMike said:
Haha this is fun. Do you guys always get so defensive when ppl disagree with you? I bet you do real well at work.
I was not saying anything bad with the whole charging for ad service I was just posting my opinions, I mean I can do that right? Or is there a charge for that as well?
If you don't like my opinions don't read them. And it is still fishy. If you want to say we decided to make money b/c it takes up so much time then just say it and get it over with. If this site takes up alot of your free time and may sometimes make your "work overtime" then just say we think we should make money off the site. It's understandable, but don't put bullshit up.
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Point ----> Counter-point....

What? How dare you counter-point to my point! ~rant and rave~ Boy, you must suck at work if you can't hear a ridiculous point without offering a counter-point! :rolleyes: You must be all defensive and stuff...jealous...insecure...

Pffft...get over yourself.

Sure you're perfectly able to post your opinion here...you just did...and didn't earn any infractions or get kicked off the site or nuthin'..... So yeah, I'll offer a counter-point, and "if you don't like it, then don't read it"... :rolleyes: And I'm guessing you didn't actually read it...or if you did, you took in individual words without actually organizing them into the thoughts they conveyed.

What's fishy, Michael? Has Rich ever demurred about wanting to make some profit from this site? No. He's never been anything but above board. But the conspiracy gurus don't want to look at all the facets of the truth...just the ones that make their goofy ideas seem bright and shiny.
 
Dennis Hultman said:

You are welcome to discuss things here but I'm not going to put up with the "fishy" comments and the derogatory unfounded remarks and accusations.
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Heh...maybe you did earn an infraction. If so, you've earned it.

MitsuMike said:
I am just expressing opinions. You can't spot that. It's my freedom of speech, right as a human being.
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:rolleyes: Freedom of speech does not apply to privately owned property or websites. Owners can set whatever rules and boundaries they wish. Rich allows you the PRIVILEGE of posting here AND of advertising here for free. But he doesn't have to put up with your crap if he doesn't want to.
 
MitsuMike said:
I mean it's not like your not making money with all the ads or anything.......give me a break. Money is made on ads not "donating" members. And all I see now IS THE SAME ADS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, just now they are from people who paid to do it.

Wow and get all high and mightly on your internet throne why don't you. I find it funny that advertising for free here was fine until this so called "bumping issue" came to be. Other sites do a damn good job of keeping everything free with just ads and small donations. There is something else going on here and it has nothing to do with bumping. I smell something fishy. But it is the decision of the site so your going to do it no matter what people say.
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And here are a few threads claiming all they see is the same ads because some monopolize the classifieds with bumping. The members here were the first to ask for some control.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101875
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111865
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102321
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156873
 
JudyC said:
Heh...maybe you did earn an infraction. If so, you've earned it.



:rolleyes: Freedom of speech does not apply to privately owned property or websites. Owners can set whatever rules and boundaries they wish. Rich allows you the PRIVILEGE of posting here AND of advertising here for free. But he doesn't have to put up with your crap if he doesn't want to.
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Damn are you like sucking his dick or sleeping with him. Your so far just his ass it's not even funny.
 
MitsuMike said:
Damn are you like sucking his :censored: or sleeping with him. Your so far just his :censored: it's not even funny.
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You think that because I'm not sucking YOURS I must be sucking someone else's? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Good luck sticking around long on any decent forum site with that attitude.
 
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