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Carolina Reptile Exchange, selling Pieds

Well, while I don't want to wish death upon the man, I would like to see some one kick his ass and throw it into jail! He is the example of the scum that exists in this industry. The problem is, no one has had balls enough to do anything to him. I wish there was something I could do.
 
Hey, I guess even though he can't spell worth a crap, he can read however. I guess he read all of this last night because on his site, he changed "mark" to Bruce. Have you guys read that web site?! HE CAN NOT SPELL! He has a phd???? But can't spell?! um, yea, right!
 
Hey guys, guess what?! He's not selling "het" for albino red ears? This guy has more "het" animals than anyone. Why is that? I have now read every single thread on this idiot. It amazes me that he still has a store! It sickens me actually. I even found stuff on a search engine about how he starved his tigers in Florida. What a piece of crap!
 
ATROX3 said:
Hey guys, guess what?! He's not selling "het" for albino red ears? This guy has more "het" animals than anyone. Why is that? I have now read every single thread on this idiot. It amazes me that he still has a store! It sickens me actually. I even found stuff on a search engine about how he starved his tigers in Florida. What a piece of crap!

Its no shocker that he treats animals badly...just look at how the yard ape treats himself.
 
I don't get it. How can a person that spent time in jail for animal abuse be selling animals now?! His animals obviously are not taken care of from what I'm reading and being told. It's really sad.
 
I have a supposed het from CRE. I will put my het pied from RDR with it this season. If it turns out to be a het then I will be thrilled if not oh well we will have to take it from there.
 
Did you get the written guarantee from them? If so, what signature did bruce sign? Because that's something else about this whole deal, is how he is using fake names to sell his products. THAT'S FRAUD!!!!!! I'd like to know if anyone can prove that Bruce himself, signed a different name on paper work.
 
Classified’s “three strikes, you’re out” rule could provide a course of action concerned forum members can take to protect others. The post is a bit lengthy, and I apologize, but it provides those so inclined with all of the steps necessary to file a complaint. It really was not that time-consuming either.

Like many on this forum, I have had a negative experience with Carolina Reptile Exchange. Although their website indicates that the company adheres to standards set by the leaders in the industry, my experience, as well as the experiences of many others on this forum, indicates otherwise. I have spent a considerable amount of time researching the owner’s criminal background, advertisements, customer feedback, etc. It has troubled me that CRE continues to, according to reports, provide unsafe/unsanitary housing for their animals, misrepresent the origin of the animals they have for sale, misrepresent the genetics and/or size/age of the animals they have for sale, and much more. I have wondered why they are allowed to continue to advertise on a reputable site like Kingsnake, despite the many negative experiences reported. I contacted the abuse department ([email protected]), describing my experience and concerns. For those of you who have stated that you feel helpless or know of no action that can be taken, here is the response I received:

“Thank you for contacting our abuse department. Please note that due to federal and state privacy laws we can neither reply to your complaint specifically or release information about users or accounts. We can and will release this information to the proper authorities upon their request. In order for your complaint to be considered a formal complaint against an individual or a business, we require that you file a complaint at the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) located at http://www.ic3.gov/. Once you have completed filing a complaint there, they will e-mail you an username and password. Please forward this to us and we will begin an internal investigation of your complaint. Please be aware that we take internet fraud seriously and so does IC3. Please help us control fraud and theft on our site and help protect yourself and others.”

I filed with the Internet Crime Complaint Center and provided my username and password to pethobbyist.com. I then received the following response:

“Your complaint and subsequent FBI report have been placed in our files. At this point we must defer to the FBI as we are not a law enforcement office and are not equipped to chase down vendor complaints and suspected internet fraud. We are here in a strictly unbiased third party role. Should your claims against the vendor be proven to have merit by the appropriate authorities, our records can be accessed by you for any subsequent legal action that may
ensue. However, having said that, we do have a three-strikes rule that states; should a vendor at any time have three independant, unresolved complaints against them, their account will be
suspended immediately until proof can be given that all complaints have been resolved to the customers satisfaction. The complaint you have filed with us at this point is used internally for
tracking "supposed" bad vendors. Should you require any further assistance from this office please do not hesitate to contact us.” (Received from Melody/Classifieds Coordinator
[email protected]).

The BOI provides an excellent means for us to express our experiences, positive or negative. In addition, there are steps that interested parties can take that may prevent, or at least minimize, future abuse on the part of CRE. Judging from some of the posts on this forum, I thought that several of you might benefit from this information and want to take action.
 
This guy just needs to go away. I have now talked with a couple people that have done business with cre, and they all some way, or another got screwed. CRE needs to be shut down!
 
from some of the posts on this forum, I thought that several of you might benefit from this information and want to take action.

And, when you do so, don't forget that Digital Reptiles first, and HCE later, were the names they used to go by in the past.

Thanks.
 
Hit the reply button too soon. The point that I wanted to make is that the “three-strikes-and-you’re-out” rule should be applied to the person behind the business and not the business name. The same individuals have been selling animals under three different names and complaints have been filed since then. It seems as if KS goes by the name of the business rather than by the name account holder’s name.
 
John,
You got the programmed reply, and I am one who applauds KS for how they do things. From my own experience talking with Jeff at KS, I do not believe that he supports someone using a variety of user-names to elude their TOS regarding the "3-strike rule". If you suspect they are operating under more than one name or one account, I would continue to try to bring it to KS attention. Once a complaint is high enough on the radar, they will take a specific interest IMO, and if the same entity has exceeded the "3 unresolved disputes" clause, where all three must be resolved in order to reinstate the account, I think they will take appropriate action. PM some of the folks in this thread who have recorded complaints here, and send them the KS link to register a complaint, and include their experiences or awareness of different user-names. With enough prodding, KS will move to definitive action, IMO.
 
I will have to go back and read the thread, as well as the others. Like I told the Internet Crime Complaint Center. I listed the links here, where they asked were there any other victims. It would help if there were other complaints filed besides mine. I will see if I can compile a list of those who posted, that they were scammed by him, then PM them the link.
 
Their latest ad:

INSANE SALE ! DONT MISS THIS ! het pieds at crazy 1/2 price deal !
SHIPPING NATIONWIDE
Posted by Carolina Reptile Exchange L.L.C. (Contact Me!) on September 09, 2006 at 12:46:04
Registered PetHobbyist User since 2003-08-01
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Click on thumbnails to view fullsize in a new window

YOU CANT PASS THIS !
I DID IT LAST YEAR SO HERE IT GOES AGAIN !
NO OTHER DEALER WILL DO THIS !

Im clearing out whats left !

100% het for pied
ALL are from a visual male to a normal or het female
bred by Dave Hanners
from may/june/july hatches
all are 60-80 grams
all are eating like pigs
on froz/thaw sm mice, and pink rats

Ill even include the 4 remaining nov 05 babies !
and they are 200 + grams !
and these are eating small rats

pay 1/2 now
and pay the other 1/2
ONLY when they produce VISABLE PIEDS !
YOU JUST CANT BEAT THAT !


genetics guaranteed for life !
live arrival
feeding guarantee
14 day health guarantee !
signed guarantee
photo documentation
pictures of the sire

all you need is
a verified shipping adress
phone number
be 18 yrs or older
$50 shipping
and 1/2 down !
Ill ship you your snakes,
you dont pay the ballance
till they produce VISABLE PIEDS !

YOU GET THEM NOW ! PAY THE BALLANCE LATER !

THATS A GREAT GUARANTEE !!!!

heres what is left

.4 11/13/05 100% het pieds
our price $1600 ea YOU PAY $800 !
.2 FOR $3000 YOU PAY $1500 !
.3 for $3600 YOU PAY $1800 !
.4 for $4200 YOU PAY $2100 ! get a free o6 het female and 05 het male !

.6 5-7/06 100% HET PIEDS
1.1 $1300 YOU PAY $650 !
1.2 $2100 YOU PAY $1050 !
.3 $2800 YOU PAY $1400 !
.4 $3400 YOU PAY $1700 ! AND GET A FREE MALE !
.5 $4000 YOU PAY $2000 GET A FREE MALE !
.6 $4600 YOU PAY $2300 AND GET A FREE MALE !

The males will be unrelated 100% het pieds (06)

SORRY NO VISUALS AT THIS TIME !
WAITING LIST FOR 07 AVAILABLE NOW !

paypal and western union or postal m.o.
all funds will be verified before shipping.

WHAT A DEAL !!!!!
NO OTHER PAYMENT PLANS ON THIS SPECIAL
No males on this 50% / 50% special
we will sell 100% het males @ $125 each (PLUS SHIP)
or FREE with some groups

QUESTIONS ? 803 548-8BOA 4 pm -7 pm

shipping overnight or delta

THANKS and God Bless

pay 1/2 now
and pay the other 1/2
ONLY when they produce VISABLE PIEDS !
YOU JUST CANT BEAT THAT !


Of course you can't beat that! You will never have to pay the other half! ;)
 
Yes, I saw that on their site, two days ago. It is a lot to pay for normal balls. I am trying to go through the list right now. It will take awhile. This is the link if anyone knows someone who was scammed by him, or wants to file their own report. Go to the bottom of the page to file. Also after you file they will send you a email. It will have an ID# and Password. You can send that to Kingsnake if it happened there. You can also log back in later and ad information you may have forgotten, or found out later.

http://www.ic3.gov/
 
John,
Thanks for making the effort. If others who have been scammed, or have filed a complaint with KS, will please post here that they have filed so as to provide some moral encouragement, it'll help. You need strength-in-numbers to have an impact. Hope you get results.
 
Yea, I just wish I had a filter to scan the post that would only list the ones that had actually been scammed.
 
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