Bad Guy Carpetman774 - [email protected]

[Ben Biscy]

i haven't heard from john since friday now... i'm the guy in carolina who he was supposed to be shipping to. guess he changed his mind. i sent a green anaconda and het clark retic female, agreeing to trade for a large pair of albino burms. a couple days after he was supposed to have shipped, the male burm up and died, the female went to a college for intensive care....

i'm going to make my own thread, and post all the information i have on him. tyler, give me a call (828-286-1130) today and we'll see if i can't help with the report you are filing. i don't expect we'll be compensated or get our animals back, but we may be able to press charges and have him put up for a little while.... obviously he's done this in the past, and i'd be willing to bet he'll do it again in the future.

p.s. ben_biscy is my username, which i entered as my name when i made this account. my name is jason n. cogan (i go by "jay"), and i've pm'd webslave to get it changed (email doesn't work). i apologize for posting here under a false name, but i told hhmoore i would post if john didn't have something worked out as of monday (yesterday).

Jay

 

[hhmoore]

Jay, you can add your info to this thread.
My only other comment is that you will need to his PM/email (I forget which it was) before posting. Sorry to hear that things didn't go as you hoped - as Chris/John/Billie promised - but I suspect you were anticipating that they would not.

Dan - it may come to a point that some intervention would be appreciated, but I would suggest contacting the authorities first (and preferably having them accompany you to pick up the animals). I'll be PMing you shortly regarding a related subject.

 

[Ben Biscy]

first email starts after replying that i would take trade or cash.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: green anaconda
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 6:41 AM

or if it's easier for you i'll do 250 shipped, my paypal is [email protected]

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green anaconda
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 11:50 PM

you want 250 for the conda?

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green anaconda
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 6:51 AM

yep

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green anaconda
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 11:56 PM

will pass

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green anaconda
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:02 AM

do you have male abino burms for trade?

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male 14 feet and female 15 feet she bred for me this past season 26 eggs

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: green annie for burm male
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 6:15 AM

Hi! Could I see a picture of your burms and get their age and approximate length? Thanks!

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i got a nice 14 foot albino berm here is the pic.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:06 AM

he looks good, nice and fat.

i'm go on a trade if you are... just tell me how you want to work it?

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 12:08 AM

i will trade him i feed him big rabbits every 2 weeks such a great snake very tame loves to be held where u at most likely we gotta ship right?

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:09 AM

yeah, i'm rutherfordton nc, 28139. how about you?

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 12:13 AM

massachusettes we will have to ship but shipping will be fast i think

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:29 AM

yeah, guaranteed overnight/next day is a must...

i'm not sure if i need to do anything special for fed ex or ups, but i'll find out. i've got an insulated box ready, and i'll get heat packs tomorrow. do you have any recommendations for shipping? what is your shipping zip?

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my shipping is Chris Breault 55 Thomas Street Dedham MA 02026 if you want we can ship monday just ship your way to me and i will look into best way to ship my burm to you its gonna cost me more on shipping but its cool let me know ok.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:29 AM

yeah, guaranteed overnight/next day is a must...

i'm not sure if i need to do anything special for fed ex or ups, but i'll find out. i've got an insulated box ready, and i'll get heat packs tomorrow. do you have any recommendations for shipping? what is your shipping zip?

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 12:32 AM

my shipping is Chris Breault 55 Thomas Street Dedham MA 02026 if you want we can ship monday just ship your way to me and i will look into best way to ship my burm to you its gonna cost me more on shipping but its cool let me know ok.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:36 AM

that sounds good to me. give me your phone number and i'll call you later today and we can go over any details. my cell is 828-447-2032, and i'll be available from 9:00am on.

my burm females and i appreciate it Chris!

Jay Cogan
4275 US 64/74a Hwy.
Rutherfordton NC, 28139

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 6:34 PM

ok buddy nice talking on the phone deal is a go i just had to check in with my wife she loves the male albino berm so just let me know when you want to ship hopefully monday then i will ship next day from received here is my shipping info Chris Breault 55 Thomas st Dedham MA 02026 ok let me know buddy.it might cost me 100 to ship let me know a cheaper way for me to ship him as he is big thanks..

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 10:54 AM

have you checked out shipyourreptiles.com? they seem to offer discount shipping prices for using their services, but i'm unsure on it. i'm about to head out the door to work again, but i'll look into it in detail this evening.

i had a thought after talking to you yesterday... you may be able to get a styrofoam cooler that he'll fit into, and use that in place of insulation and the sterilite (just make sure to put holes in the styrofoam and the exterior box). the coolers cost about 5$ here, and i think any box will do for fed ex or ups.... i think it's only usps that's picky about plain boxes.

call if you have any other questions, and i'm going to try to get green weanie en route tomorrow morning...

also, i may be interested in your female burm as well, if you're looking to part with her. please let me know how much you'd like to take for her and if all goes well we might can have both shipped at the same time to save on suplies and shipping costs....

the only other method for shipping biggies that i know of is as cargo on a comercial flight. this costs about a hundred dollars, and is really best for 100+lbs or cross country shipping. that works as an airport-airport deal, you'd have to drop him off for his flight, i'd have to go to charlotte international to pick him up. i'll find out the name of the airline we used last time and forward that info to you.

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 8:13 PM

hey buddy here is my shipping info i got to work tommoro so my son will sign for it his name is Chris Breault 55 Thomas St. Dedham Mass 02026 also i need your shipping info i will go to ups tommoro to see the best way to ship but i plan on shipping tommoro as well and here is a pic of my yellow conda girl at a reptile show i did last week. get back buddy. p.s. the wife is gonna miss the burms

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 3:36 AM

my shipping info is:

Jason Cogan
4275 US 64/74a Hwy.
Rutherfordton NC, 28139

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 8:59 PM

cool i was like he forgot a very important part of the email lol you got mine right so tommoro is a good day to start then right? i will look up ups online tonight to see whats the best way to ship.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 4:13 AM

yeah, tomorrow is good, let me know what you find about ups, and i'll go the same route so we're on the same exact page all the way around.

here are the pix from photobucket, if the inserts don't work click on the direct link and peruse the pix in the album, they're the first pix on page one...

http://s610.photobucket.com/albums/tt189/Ben_Biscy/

and i really appreciate this as well! i worry about online deals and getting ripped off, it's good to talk to someone who has a clue, like you said. lol. i'm glad things are working out for both of us, just seems like this deal is meant to be.

can you shoot me a pic of the crocodilian, and what kind is he again? i can't remember, total brain fart.... i'll have to get something set up for him tomorrow.

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 9:42 PM

sure bro 3 foot american alligator i will send you a pic and yes its good to talk with a person with a clue lol after this deal goes good we can have many more in the near future sound good. i just hope i can afford the shipping on these big burms should be ok. work cut hours last week check sucked but no worries. p.s. i added a pic of my boy chris with alot of snakes on him lol

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 4:58 AM

awesome, good looking snakes! nice and fat. that's a nifty little gator too, i'm i'll have tons of fun with him, lol.

ok, looks like we're all set. i'll give you a call tomorrow when i go out, and we'll go from there. the retic should be ready to eat any time, the annie is due to eat on thursday. both should arrive clean, as they both left nice little nasties for me to deal with today :x..

thanks again, and i'll talk to you tomorrow!

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 10:47 PM

sounds good buddy quick question would you part with the pastel ball? forget the carpet and do the retic and pastel for the female albino berm just a thought let me know my wife likes the balls i like condas and retics lol the big guys and yes give me a call tommoro ok buddy have a great night

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 6:00 AM

sorry man, but she sold a few weeks ago... i'm going to pair up 4 females with a pastel male this season, if you want i'll give you first pick. one of the females is a dinker, and i anticipate some cool pastels out of that clutch.

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 11:06 PM

ok sounds good buddy also nice lloking regular burm how big 14 feet or so? anyways call me tommoro when you ship ok buddy

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 5:18 PM

hey man, just got home from the pack and ship, they're off and are guaranteed to be there between 10:30am and 12:00pm, so they're only going to be in limbo for about 12 hours, pretty cool. the tracking number is:

FedEx
966584406920

i can't wait to freak the fedex guy out tomorrow when the burms arrive :x. when i got the retic from stan i pulled him out in the cargo office and he put on a great show, lol. i think one of the cargo employees walked out on the job .

give me a shout when you get home.

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 10:34 AM

thats funny shit ok im gonna gonna go to fedex after work at 4pm they are open till 6pm then i will send out and email you tonight buddy talk soon.



HERE BEGINS THE PROBLEMS....


From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 1:08 AM

hey man, just checking up with ya. everything go ok?

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:32 PM

well i missed getting to fedex before they closed work sucked today my boss had me running all around but i am off from work tommoro so i will get shipped and get you tracking number sound good buddy sorry for the delay but these 2 snakes are worth it trust me. anyways buddy feel free to email me back.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 2:45 AM

that sucks, but it's cool. yours will be in between 10:30 and 12:00. give me a call when they come in and let me know how they're doing.

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:59 PM

most definetly i will call you tommoro i am not working i will get shipped tommoro for sure buddy.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 6:29 PM

hey man, just checking to see how they're doing.

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 1:42 PM

had problems shipping them when i brought them to ship they asked me if i had a permit for a snake over 12 feet so now i got to find out what i got to do i will get back tommoro such bullshit

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 9:09 PM

you guys have to have permits up there? that blows. how's the annie and retic? they arrive ok?

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dude those are 2 of the coolest snakes ever buddy to make things even worse i am not bullshitting you at all i can provide pics if you want today when i tryed to ship ups the snakes were acting kind of weird this came out of nowhere both albino burms were opening there mouth alot making a loud breathing sound again this is new to us i went to check on the 14 foot male desi to see how he was doing when i picked him up i heard gurguling in his body then seen ooze coming from his mouth then a bump on his head and then he was just really strange looking and smelled very bad i noticed his body was not strong feeling like normal it was like he was losing body fat i swear to god this came from nowhere well after i looked at him a few more minutes i called a vet this happening at midnight then i went back in to find him dead i am so fucking sad bro and my wife all i wanted was a good life for him i dont know if this was caused from a bad feed i dont know but desi the female is still kicking but looks bad i can show you detailed pics of her tommoro if you think you can help her i am going to vet tommoro morning if she survives the night no matter what i will make good with you buddy your a great guy this shit is crazy my desi boy is dead and on my porch i dont know what to do but summer the female has her mouth opened with ooze as well please help bro if you can again i will pay for the snakes no matter what i will take care of you.


PLEASE NOTE THAT HE HAS RECEIVED THE ANIMALS...

 

[Ben Biscy]

continued....


From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 10:02 AM

no shit.... that sounds like extreme upper respiratory.... you haven't used any bug spray recently have you? permethrins can kill a snake quick and that sounds like the symptoms. that's exactly what happens if you use prevent-a-mite improperly or use a pyrethrin or permethrin based bug bomb. no idea what the bump would be. i'd see about having a necropsy done to find out exactly what's up...

i don't know what to tell you, other than to keep summer in the heat, 85-90f, and see if she'll drink. i hope she does all right. call me today, 828-286-1130.

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 9:36 AM

hey man once summer gets better i will ship her out im bringing her to tufts university pet care to get her better not letting her die as to desi i really am confused i want a optopsy but its probally exspensive right i will take you detailed pics later today so you can see if anything looks noticable ok buddy also i will make good on the conda and retic i promise i gotta say you are a cool ass dude some day when i go to carolina i will hunt you down and we can get trashed and check out snakes etc and yes i will call you today its noon now and im heading to tufts now as we speak.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:55 PM

call me, so we can talk about it, i'd really like to know what's up. please send pictures, if i know something that could help, i'd help...

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:33 PM

hey buddy well summer is at vet so far 1 night now they want 2 more nights do you have any interrest in a 3 foot burm female het for granite or a baby burm male 2 feet or a 3 foot blood tame i got a baby ball double het for albino cinnamon and a female ball 2 feet and i still got the gator and a 10 foot redtail female central american let me know buddy.

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 10:13 PM

jesus, that sucks... i was really looking forward to those guys...

does the het granite have papers? is she albino? could you send me pix of her and the blood?

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:41 PM

you can still have the female i just got to wait a few weeks to make sure is 100 percent before i give her to you for her safety and your snakes i dont want your berm getting sick i can email you pics of the blood and het granite no papers but you can very easily see the granite darkness compared to a normal but my normal i just found out is a grey burm lol whatever that means here is pics of all 3

From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 1:12 AM

they look good. i'd like to add those two burms to the collection. would you ship the two of them and the gator to me?

From: John Derosa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "ben biscy" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:32 PM

most def so the 2 burms and gator will ship out tommoro then ok can i get your shipping info again sorry buddy.


From: ben biscy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: green annie for burm male
To: "John Derosa" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:34 AM

can you wait and ship monday for me? i'm not going to be home saturday or sunday, so i wouldn't be here to receive them....

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ok monday is cool buddy.



THAT'S THE LAST I HEARD FROM HIM, HE'S NOT CALLED ME, NOR HAS HE RETURNED ANY OF MY NEW EMAILS.

 

[Ben Biscy]

so as of now, i'm out of two snakes, a green anaconda male and a het clark retic female, and 70$ shipping charge. any holes in the text are due to phone calls, as i spoke with him several times on the phone. i hope this helps.

 

[kmarsh]

Seems Capetman774 is back at it. New ads "3foot blood python" and trade and bartering alot of snakes. Check it out, I thought he was banned?

 

[R. Eventide]

If I remember correctly, he was only banned for three days.

 

[Tpriem10]

He is back trading stuff off? Are you kidding me?

 

[kmarsh]

My thoughts exactly last nite but Yes he has a listing for a 3 foot blood python and a bunch under trade or barter.

 

[LauraB]

No kidding. Here's the link. He put his latest in the Agamids sell/trade forum.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142961&highlight=carpetman774

 

[kmarsh]

See above by Eventide and webslave just pmd me that he was only banned for 3 days...

 

[Ben Biscy]

See above by Eventide and webslave just pmd me that he was only banned for 3 days...

still pretty crazy. i can't wait to see what he says to my reply in the blood thread...

 

[hhmoore]

still pretty crazy. i can't wait to see what he says to my reply in the blood thread...

You (collective) might to take note of my reply in that thread...and the comments in your respective infraction notices. Next time, it might not be the bad guy getting three days off.

 

[R. Eventide]

Wait, so is shabri97 (Billy Brier is the name listed for that account), who's posting a lot in the classifieds, the same person?

 

[eskew]

Hey all the guy in the background in the posted photos is the guy that showed up at my house face to face for a trade. His name is billy. just thought I would throw that out there. and also the animals he traded up with ma were 50% sexed correctly and 50% incorrect. not sure if it was an honest mistake or what... I wasn't too concerened.

 

[Ben Biscy]

Wait, so is shabri97 (Billy Brier is the name listed for that account), who's posting a lot in the classifieds, the same person?

it's the same animals that are posted, so i would imagine yes...

 

[LauraB]

So this is the guy who called himself "Billy Brier"?

Was he alone when he came to your house to trade, Shad?

 

[R. Eventide]

it's the same animals that are posted, so i would imagine yes...

For a microsecond, I thought maybe he didn't realize he was only banned for a few days and made a new account. But nope, his Carpetman774 account had activity today, so he knows it's still active.

So this guy scammed someone, got caught, and then started trying to scam some more by making a new account using one of his well-known aliases!

I'm so glad scammers don't have a whole lot in the grey matter department.

 

[R. Eventide]

Okay, I went back through this thread and saw that this other user has already been discussed. Didn't remember those posts, despite that I did read the whole thread. My apologies.

Back to your regularly-scheduled program....

 

[hhmoore]

So this guy scammed someone, got caught, and then started trying to scam some more by making a new account using one of his well-known aliases!

I'm so glad scammers don't have a whole lot in the grey matter department.

Actually, I believe that account was registered before this thread was started (unless I'm remembering wrong).