• Responding to email notices you receive.
    **************************************************
    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

  • IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!! About the Google Adsense ads being displayed

    =====================
    Posted 08/15/2025
    =====================


    Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.

    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

    =====================
    Addendum: 01/10/2026
    =====================


    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Bad Guy Chaos Reptiles and Pet Supply, Dan Peck and Josh Stone

I spoke with the customer for a while on the genetics, all the balls i sold where all various hets and where all hold backs. I explained what the genetics where. if you re-read, already said it was not possible to be a het for a codom. The snake was sold as a NORMAL, it was not sold as aything other. If there is a customer who is new with reptiles, explaining the care for the animal amongst other questions and genetics as well is a lot of info for a person. i dont sell hets, if i have a het i call it a normal, unless i bred the snake and know for certain what it is or unless i have a photo i.d to verify from a different breeder. I also gave this person an idea on genetics by showing them an albino burm and a normal burm and expalined about breedeing them together and breeding the siblings back to help him understand a little more. I made it very known to the customer that the snake he bought was a normal. I wrote that part to gary because i dont think he was aware of the price or the fact it was sold as a normal.

also getting animals on consienment and terms is very very common. we have been in buisness for a while, but not as long with a retail store and enormous overhead. almost every retail buisness within the first year or two has financial hardship during that time.

there was only 2 bad checks and both have been cleared up.
 
I meant to update the board a few days ago but just fell short on time. Dan has paid me off in full, including the bounced check fee's. He worked hard to remedy the situation once the matter was brought up here. I thank Dave for bringing this matter to the BOI and Dan for taking care of the problem as quickly as possible.

And Gary I just love your big bald head ;)
 
chaosad said:
***spell check off***
Gary O!! Did the customer with the "66% het cinn" that you have first hand kowledge about mention the fact that i told him it may be a het if there was a thing, but not with a co-dom? did this customer also mention that the ball python he bought was a sizeable female and was sold as a normal to him for $30-35 bucks? I wrote on the cup what it could be so he can check it out. I dont think he was "taken" in that deal.

Daniel Peck
Chaos Reptiles and Supply LLC.
Click to expand...
I will give you the whole story how it happened that day.

My customer came up to me and was talking ball pythons. They were wanting a few. I forgot all the ones we were talking about but all lower end codoms.

She told me that they purchased a female 66% het Cinnie female from Choas. I looked at them funny and said there is no such thing it is either cinnie or not. It was a codom gene. They both left and said they would go get it to findo out as they were told in the store it was 66% het cinnie.

I now this couple is very new in the hobby. So I thought maybe just maybe they misunderstood.

Dave and I talked about it and thought it had to be Josh that said this. AS I sad there is no way Dan would say something like this.

The customers came back with the snake. On the deli it said 66% het cinnie. I asked them who did you by it from. Was it the shorter guy. They said no it was the taller guy. I was shocked to tell you the truth and then went on to tell them there is no such thing as het cinnie. He told me he paid 40 dollars for it. I sexed it and it was female. I told him that 40 bucks for a female was not bad at all but the cinnie part was misleading.

I will say the snake seemed healthy. But on the deli it said 66% het cinnie. II trully thought it was something Josh would have done just becuase he does not know genetics you know. He asks me a lot at the shows when you guys vended and that is fine I never minded.

The customers were sorta crushed. They are very new to the hobby. They thought they could produce cinnies.

I can not say everything you guys talked about when they purchased it. All I can tell you is they said you said it was 66% cinnie.
 
:) Can't we all get along.......... Neil is way to easy Now Justin u will have to work a bit on him. COUPLE OF BEERS AND YOUR IN LIKE SILK GARY.

KEEP YOUR CHIN UP GUYS! LET THIS BE A LESSION AND GROW WITH IT.

LUV YA DAVE!

CB
 
chaosad said:
The only crocadilians I sell are baby american alligators, those are sold at the shop and at shows,they are rarely shipped and we follow all local, state and federal laws with them.
Click to expand...
I guess you forgot that when you purchased the gators at the Taylor show. Or do you only follow all local, state and federal laws when you are selling versus buying?
chaosad said:
I will not go to prison for violatig the lacey act..... it is simply not worth it.
Click to expand...

So your claim of owning a Chinese Alligator was yet another tall tale? Or is the Immigration and Naturalization Services now issuing Green cards for Crocodilians? (BTW, that is the correct spelling of crocodilians)
 
chaosad said:
also getting animals on consienment and terms is very very common.
Click to expand...

Since you probably won’t answer my last question (truthfully) I guess I will ask another. Would you like to explain why you were no longer getting animals from Neil on consignment?
chaosad said:
there was only 2 bad checks and both have been cleared up.
Click to expand...

Well I have heard of others but that is not why I quoted the above. The word “only” nags at me. The use of that word makes it sound like 2 bad checks is no big deal. I’d halfway expect to hear next, “it’s not like I wrote 25 bad checks”. Then again, taking almost 2 months to clear things up is nothing to be proud of.
 
IF you weren't trying to mislead the customer how did the words "66% het cinnie" get on the tub? as there is no possible way of an animal being %any het for cinnie...how/why did it end up on the deli tub in the first place?
 
chaosad said:
I had an order that i placed before the december hamburg show with neil. I asked him if it was ok to give him a post dated check for the animals. he said it was ok.
Click to expand...

neilgolli said:
On december 5th Chaos (Dan) placed an order from me for nearly $1100. He wrote me a check dated December 6th (I did not notice this until after I walked out of the store, but figured no big deal as I did not have time to make it to the bank anyway.)
Click to expand...

Hmmm, conflicting statements. Who to believe? One vote for Neil.
 
Old sign...
 

Attachments

  • chaos warning.jpg
    chaos warning.jpg
    168.2 KB · Views: 261
Back
Top