Bad Guy Chris Guarino cguarino30 Horrible ethic

[Haifisch]

For those who have seen his ad on the cages and supplies saw this ad
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338995

I traded a L3 Eotech 512 for these. I do not have pic of the Eotech but it is solid unit.
I gave Mr Guarino $50 dollars to deliver outside of his north jersey free delivery range. for his trouble.
I asked via PM if the heat was functional on the units. I was initially told not sure i will check. Ok next day i get the message i checked they are fine.
great!
When he arrived I handed him the $50 for gas and let him examine the optic I had to trade. He mentioned the unit looked new.
the rack units were there but I noticed only one unit had a cord attached to the heat panel. Another unit had the heat panel but no cord attached. and the third unit had no panel at all.

I asked if he had the other cords, Mr Guarino replied they are in the bins you can run them in line.
Next he claimed he hate to deal to run, but wanted to head out as it was a two hour drive ahead of him. I shook his hand and he left. I moved the units inside to clean them as it looked like they hadnt been cleaned ever. there were still shed skin pieces dried feces and the bottom of one unit almost melted through! imagine the poor animal that was in there when the heat hot enough to melt 1/2 inch PVC went through. Melted but functional. ok by me used cages and all. I use quality thermostats so no worries. Coming pics to show units.

I called and text messaged Mr Guarino within 10 minutes of his leaving to resolve the issue with the heat.

The following are the text messages sent between he and I.

Haifisch/Dan Bock to Guarino 8/23/2012 3:41pm: Hey bud, where are the cords? The panel for one unit is missing entirely.Give me 30 of the 50 back and we are square. (bare in mind this is minutes of him leaving, thought it would be easiest solution)

Guarino to Dan 4:43pm : What do you mean the panel is missing? the cords plug into each other. I tested them myself before bringing them to you.

Dan to Guarino 4:55pm : No heat in one of the three cages & no other cord other then the one attached to one panel of one unit.I thought this as an oversight. Theres no bridge cord either and no heat tape at all in one of the three.

Guarino to Dan 4:55pm : I checked them myself I dont see how this could have happened.

Dan to Guarino 5:08pm : Me either. How are you going to resolve this?

Dan to Guarino 5:21pm : You keep thinking. Im gathering emails and texts.
(after the long delay and the fact that if he did check this could not have happend, right?)

Guarino to Dan 5:22pm : I'm not really sure what that means about the emails and texts.

Guarino to Dan 5:22pm: Honestly, assuming the mistake is on my end, I still feel like you got a pretty good deal. you traded a 300 item for a item not quite as new as you claimed.

Guarino to Dan 5:23pm : for easily 500 worth of racks, even if they are missing parts you claim. I also delivered them 4 hours out of my way for less then what it cost me in gas.

Guarino to Dan 5:24pm : The 50 was to cover gas money. it didnt even do that,but im not complaining. I'm just saying that asking for 30 of it back is unreasonable given the trade.

Guarino to Dan 5:28pm : I will check my garage sunday to make sure they are not there. and If they are I will send them, but if not I think we can both cut losses

After having a private sht fit since, the new versions of those racks are 450 New un melted and clean . plus I know my optic was sound, he looked at it i showed him how to use it he stated it looks like new, still has the packaging even the cardboard that goes over the pelican case is intact!Plus I NEVER EVER conduct business where integrity is sacrificed or cutting losses is an option. NEVER EVER!!!!

Dan to Guarino 5:29pm : No, It will cost that for new tape and plugs. the bottom of one unit is melted but no prob for used cage. but no heat in 1 no cords no way all three worked

Guarino to Dan 5:30pm: They all had everything when I tested them.

Dan to Guarino 5:31pm : They dont today

Guarino to Dan 5:45pm : This is a pointless arguement.I told you what I was going to do. Asking more is unreasonable

Dan to Guarino 5:50pm: Accepting losses is not part of my way of doing business. You said they worked if so why arent the cords there why is there heat tape missing. WHY would a cord be cut off the clip to the heat is still attached. you said you checked them how? if you did and they worked where is the rest?

Guarino to Dan 5:52pm : Why the hell would I cut the cord off? spite?

Dan to Guarino 5:53pm: This is simple the heat components the money to replace or im taking this to the BOI on Fauna your choice.

Guarino to Dan 5:54pm: I've told you what im going to do. you can stop threatening me. It won't make me change my mind.

Dan to Guarino 5:55pm : You didnt tell me anything about resolutions.
What your solution Chris

Guarino to Dan 5:56pm : I repeat my previous answer.

I find I'll look as a way of stalling me. I can not accept him telling me they were functional and had heat when looking at the pics in ad you can see the cord cut off from one no heat on the closest and the cord on the one in the back of ad photo thus my reason for questioning BEFORE he drove them out here. He said they were their and working. I was going to wait at this point before going to the board as getting ripped off. However as sunday has not come I can not say he out right lied. I can say that he is horrible to deal with. notice he has questioned my integrity and intelligence before looking. in addition if he checked before leaving why are they not in order?
I feel he tried to pull a fast one and got caught. over 30 dollars in repair parts I felt this a nominal issue and simply wanted him to have kept his word.
I understand that for some integrity doesnt account for much but for me honor is ALL.

Dan to Guarino 5:56pm : Whats your solution exactly?

Guarino to Dan 5:57pm : I told you, I will check my garage if I find them I will send them. If i do not we will both have to accept our mutual disappointment.



I have to wait for him. who from the condition of those cages still with feces and skins in them, melted through on the bottom the guy didnt even put them together right. it looks like he tried out a screw gun for the first time on those things. wait for this person to look for something in his garage. and his solution is

to look and if they are not there I have to accept the sht end of the stick.

I asked him if the eotech was a disappointment and he felt he got ripped off i would trade him back he agreed but i would have to come to him but he wouldnt give me the the address of where to go and meet him and claimed he didnt have the 50 to give me in return for coming to him. I said ill come regardless and get my optic back and give him his racks. he has refused and and accuses me of harassment. so to avoid making him feel at all uneasy I have just come here to shed light on this person and I will post pics of melted cage and the 2 of three panels one of which having the cord. I will be sure to post if he does in fact make this right. if not I will keep the forum notified.
to mods sorry if I broke a rule this is my first transaction using this forum and it has gone sour. It was never my intent to make a scene over 30-50 dollars in parts. this is a matter of principal.

I am upset because principals have been broken, and my integrity has been questioned. Honor Courage Commitment

 

[Lucille]

the rack units were there but I noticed only one unit had a cord attached to the heat panel. Another unit had the heat panel but no cord attached. and the third unit had no panel at all.

I asked if he had the other cords, Mr Guarino replied they are in the bins you can run them in line.
Next he claimed he hate to deal to run, but wanted to head out as it was a two hour drive ahead of him.

This is where I would have stopped, gotten the Eotech, and asked him to get the cords and show how they worked, and if he could not I would tell him goodbye, no trade.


When you have an opportunity to examine what you are getting, and ESPECIALLY if there is a red flag like missing cords and a missing panel, you need to take your time and assure yourself of the quality of what you are getting.

Another 15 minutes of looking around and you would have known you were getting a deal you didn't want, and 15 minutes more would not have put the other party in any kind of bind.

I'm sorry you got the short end of it and you did. But it was totally preventable.

 

[Haifisch]

This is where I would have stopped, gotten the Eotech, and asked him to get the cords and show how they worked, and if he could not I would tell him goodbye, no trade.


When you have an opportunity to examine what you are getting, and ESPECIALLY if there is a red flag like missing cords and a missing panel, you need to take your time and assure yourself of the quality of what you are getting.

Another 15 minutes of looking around and you would have known you were getting a deal you didn't want, and 15 minutes more would not have put the other party in any kind of bind.

I'm sorry you got the short end of it and you did. But it was totally preventable.

Sad but true. I did let him go, while I was looking at the units. hes left while i was getting a good look. he was in my driveway less then 5 min

 

[Haifisch]

But most importantly, I dont mind a mess to clean. these racks new arent cheap and i forgive the melted issue. i mind being made for a fool. if I get nothing in return im not goiong to be broken over $50 worth of fresh equipment. I want people to see what kind of person Chris Guarino is. and to point out, cages in this condition are inexcusable, there were animals in that filth. those conditions come from pure laziness. I would highly suggest not doing business with this man.

 

[Lucille]

Daniel,

It was a lesson learned, and we all have lots of those. I'm glad that you do have something to show and I hope it turns out nice after it is cleaned up.

What makes you a better person is that you came here and described the transaction, so that those who in the future might consider trades with Chris, can consider your post and make their choices.

 

[Haifisch]

thank you for the kind words, you know the best part my wife felt bad and is getting me new tubs and i get to order fresh equipment. she has been turned! thanks to my daughter's pastel Leonidas and a lack of integrity so, Thanks Chris!

 

[cguarino30]

You're all being really unfair to me. All I ask is the opportunity to go home and look for the missing parts. All of these insinuations about the condition of the animals I keep and what a bad person I am are really unfair. I have done business with people on this website for over a year with no complaints.

Dan- you keep making unsubstantiated comments about my lack of honor, and how I questioned your integrity and yet you somehow see fit to make all kinds of accusations about me being a liar and mistreating my animals and being generally incompetent. I've re-read everything I said to you and I don't see a single insult on my end, but countless on yours. I have told you 3 times, and for a 4th time I will say it here. I know for a fact that these tubs were intact when I checked them out last week. It is entirely possible that I somehow misplaced a couple parts in the process. If that is the case, I will find the parts when I get home and I will send them to you, free of charge.

I drove these racks to your home (an extra 4 hours of driving out of my way) because you made the request because your son had physical therapy, and I wanted to help you out. You paid me $50, which was less than I spent on gas just on those 4 hours. I can't give you that money back, because it is gone. The deal we had was the racks for the optic. The $50 was for the delivery. Unless you are going to claim that I never made the delivery, you can't claim that money back.

Again, at the very least, this is all ENTIRELY premature. I may have made a mistake. If that is the case, I will figure it out when I get home on Sunday. I am not lying. I am not stalling. I am out of town. I can not simply wave a magic wand and make these items appear.

Not only are you being unreasonable, and entirely offensive, you're being arrogant, condescending, insulting, and altogether dishonorable. I would love for you to offer any evidence to back up the claims you are making about my character, about the care of my animals, or anything else other than the fact that pieces are missing.

You had every opportunity to inspect the racks while I was there. I was more than happy to answer the questions you had. I explained the difference between wood and pvc to you when you were concerned, did I not? I apologize for leaving quickly, but I really did have 2 more hours of driving to do to get back to where I had business being, and had already been in the car for over 5.

If you ask me, you need to calm down, stop throwing wild accusations around, and let me go check my garage on Sunday. If what you say is true, they will likely be sitting right where the racks were, and you will have started this thread, insulted my character, and irreparably damaged my reputation, all over a very simple misunderstanding.

I have done everything that can be reasonably expected of me and then some. When I am able, I will go to further lengths to make sure I am being honest. I do not appreciate being libeled for my trouble.

 

[ronritzer]

Okay Im gonna go ahead and give my two cents. I just looked up what an eotech was and there is no way I would have traed it for some PVC shelves! But that humble opinion aside...

The cheapest part of a reptile rack system is the heating system. An electriacl cord costs like 89 cents a foot from a hardware store, and eleven inch heat tape costs about $3.75 cents a foot online. It sucks that the the cheap electrical cords were missing and one panel of cheap heat tape, but you really should have looked into that before you accepted them and sent him on his way.
Even without the heat tape and cheap cords, the racks are still worth quite a bit of money, as xpvc is expensive and they look well made. So they were dirty, clean them. The fact that part of it was melted though, thats not cool. But again, you should have checked them out and decided if they were satisfactory or not.
To be fair, the $50 was what you offered to have them delivered, not a part of the trade. You agreed to take them in the condition they were in, even though you didnt inspect them you did say they are functional and worth it but you are griping about the cords that he said he would look for which are probably in his garage.
I bet he finds them and sends them to you and its all an honest mistake. Then what?

 

[cguarino30]

I also want to point out that you edited those text messages to omit a lot of your insults and badgering. Here is the actual complete text messages. This has not been edited to make any one person look more rational than the other, and does not include any justifications or explanations. I challenge anyone to read this and say that I am being the unfair one:

Dan 3:41pm: Hey bud, where are the cords? The panel for one unit is missing entirely. This is not as advertised. Give me 30 of the 50 back & we will be square.

Guarino 4:43pm : What do you mean the panel is missing? the cords plug into each other. I tested them myself before bringing them to you.

Dan 4:55pm : No heat in one of the three cages & no cords other then just the one. I thought it as an oversight. Theres no bridge cord either and no heat tape in one of three.

Guarino 4:55pm : I checked them myself I dont see how this could have happened.

Dan 5:08pm : Me either. How are you going to resolve this?
Dan 5:21pm : You keep thinking. Im putting emails and txt together.

Guarino 5:22pm : I'm not really sure what that means about the emails and texts.
Guarino 5:22pm: Honestly, even assuming the mistake is on my end, I still feel like you got a pretty good deal. you traded a $300 item (also not quite as new as you claimed.)
Guarino 5:23pm : for easily $500 worth of racks, even if they are missing parts you claim. I also delivered them 4 hours out of my way for less then what it cost me in gas.
Guarino 5:24pm : The $50 was to cover gas money. it didnt even do that,but im not complaining. I'm just saying that asking for 30 of it back is unreasonable given the trade.
Guarino 5:28pm : I will check my garage when I get home sunday to make sure they are not there. and If they are I will send them, but if not I think we can both cut losses

Dan 5:29pm : No, It will cost that for new tape & plugs. the bottom of one unit is melted but no prob 4 used cage. but no heat in 1 no cords. no way all 3 worked

Guarino 5:30pm: They all had everything when I tested them.

Dan 5:31pm : They didnt today

Guarino 5:45pm : This is a pointless argument. I told you what I was going to do. Asking more is unreasonable

Dan 5:50pm : I am not asking for anything other then the heat or the cost. That’s 32 dollars. Im giving u a chance before I take this to the BOI on fauna. Ur getting way too defensive for such a small matter. Btw u said yourself the optic looked brand new
Dan 5:51pm : U said u checked them. Then u cut the cord off cmon.

Guarino 5:52pm : Why the hell would I cut the cord off? spite?

Dan 5:53pm: simple the heat the money or the fauna board ur choice

Guarino 5:54pm: I've told you what im going to do. you can stop threatening me. It won't make me change my mind.

Dan 5:55pm: one cord on one panel the other still has clip connector on it. Ill send pic

Guarino 5:55pm : I repeat my previous answer.

Dan 5:56pm : You didnt tell me anything about resolutions.

Guarino 5:56pm : Yes, I did. I will check my garage. If I find them, I will send them. If I do not, we will both just have to live with our mutual disappointment.

Dan 5:57pm : What is your solution chris?
Dan 5:58pm : What’s wrong with the optic?!

Guarino 6:00pm : There is some paint missing on the one edge. I didn’t want to make a big deal about it, but you said I wouldn’t be able to tell it was used.

Dan 6:03pm : wow. ok. im going to the board.

Guarino 6:04 pm : Do whatever you like.

Dan 6:05 pm : im on it thank you

Guarino 6:05 pm : Not really sure why you wouldn’t want to wait until I check my garage, unless you already know I won’t find anything there.

Dan 6:08 pm : What are YOU waiting on?! U insult my intergrity before you checked.

Guarino 6:10 pm : I live 4 hours away. I am on a business trip. I drove 4 hours out of my way as a favor to you. I will not be home until Sunday. When I get home, I will check.

Dan 6:11 pm : I gave u the benefit of the doubt and suggested an oversight.

Guarino 6:10 pm : And I said, if that is the case, it will be there when I get home
Sunday. I don’t really understand why you are not getting this.

Dan 6:13 pm : then say so. Don’t insult my insult someone before u get pissy. Ill wait til Monday

Guarino 6:13 pm : I said it 3 f---ing times (edited for board propriety)

Dan 6:17 pm : u said when u get home nothing about Sunday.regardless heat aint here. If u don’t find it i dont care. Its not here! & im not ok with disappointment

Guarino 6:18 pm : You can watch the f----ing attitude (edited for board propriety) You already made out at least double, and I came all the way to you as a favor. I’m doing what I can.

Dan 6:18 pm : u didn’t check sht before u left. If u did explain how it not there?

Guarino 6:19 pm : I’m done talking about this. If you call me a liar one more time, I’m just going to stop trying.

Dan 6:20 pm : im not ur welcome to come by & discuss this

Guarino 6:20 pm : You are TWO HOURS AWAY

Dan 6:23 pm : Not calling you a liar. Im asking how this happened. If ur displeased I will give u ur rack back. For my scratched optic

Guarino 6:24 pm : Ok, this time you come to me, and we can trade it all back since you’re so unhappy. I’m in Parsippany, NJ

Dan 6:26 pm : 50 u have for gas im on the way. Address?

Guarino 6:27 pm : I already spent the 50 on gas.
Guarino 6:28 pm : I really don’t understand why you’re too pissed to wait until Sunday

Dan 6:33 pm : u insulted my integrity & intelligence. Then to have u cursing @ me! what do u expect? U say u got a raw deal? really?!

Guarino 6:34 pm : I never said that. Are you insane? You called me a liar and won’t leave it alone. I told you I’d take care of it on Sunday.
Guarino 6:34 pm : That’s all I can do.
Guarino 6:34 pm : You can harass me all you want. It won’t change anything
Guarino 6:34 pm : I will look on Sunday.
Guarino 6:35 pm : Please leave me be until then

Dan: 6:35 pm : then do so

Guarino 6:35 pm : Ok

Dan 7:27 pm : I just finished transcribing text messages pleasd have any further contact on the board of inquiry

 

[cguarino30]

The fact that part of it was melted though, thats not cool.

I would like to point out that "melted" in this case, means there is some discoloration and cracking on the bottom of the rack where the heat tape sat between the floor and the rack. It's a little cracked up from long term heat exposure (expansion and contraction of the heat switching on and off) not actually melted, and in response to Dan's accusation about the care of my animals, nothing was ever killed or tortured in that tub from overheating. It's a simple function of long term use, not over-heating.

 

[ronritzer]

Is he saying the tub is cracked or the actual rack itself? Of course, he said thats okay, functional and acceptable. The griping about the heat tape and the cheap cord is just crazy, he should have checked before you left, but he didnt, you even said you would check your garage and send them for free. Electrical cords and heat tape dont cost a whole lot considering that he now has facility to house several herps in racks that cost hundreds of dollars each new. Its a pretty simple matter to order some new heat tape and get some cord cut at the hardware store. The fifty dollars wasnt a part of the deal.

So are they in your garage or what?
The stuff he said about how your care for your animals was uncalled for. In fact it all was uncalled for.

 

[cguarino30]

Is he saying the tub is cracked or the actual rack itself? Of course, he said thats okay, functional and acceptable. The griping about the heat tape and the cheap cord is just crazy, he should have checked before you left, but he didnt, you even said you would check your garage and send them for free. Electrical cords and heat tape dont cost a whole lot considering that he now has facility to house several herps in racks that cost hundreds of dollars each new. Its a pretty simple matter to order some new heat tape and get some cord cut at the hardware store. The fifty dollars wasnt a part of the deal.

So are they in your garage or what?
The stuff he said about how your care for your animals was uncalled for. In fact it all was uncalled for.

Thank you. It makes me feel a lot better to know I'm not the only one who thought that was way out of line. If the parts aren't with the racks, I can only assume they will be in the garage when I get home on Sunday. The racks have not been anywhere else since I checked them last week.

As for the "melting" it is on the underside of the rack, there is some shallow cracking in the surface of the plastic. It's hard to describe. It looks kind of like when a pond dries up. It's purely an aesthetic issue, and it's on the underside, so I didn't think it was a big deal either until he accused me of killing one of my animals.

 

[ronritzer]

I have seen heat exposed xpvc, which is what Im assuming these are made out of so I know what you are talking about, it doesnt affect the functionality unless you plan on preparing food on it.

 

[Lucille]

You're all being really unfair to me. All I ask is the opportunity to go home and look for the missing parts.

Guarino 5:56pm : Yes, I did. I will check my garage. If I find them, I will send them. If I do not, we will both just have to live with our mutual disappointment.

I have three 34 qt boamaster racks that hold 4 tubs each. They are used but in good condition. They are all heated with 11 inch flexwatt back heat. Will sell for $125 each or $300 for the lot of 3. I am willing to deliver for FREE anywhere in the state of New Jersey, or in the Philadelphia or surrounding areas. Also open to some trades, make an offer, I want them gone. Thank you.

Dan should have checked better, but he did not. He has accepted that, and it is a lesson learned.
Apparently there are missing items. It doesn't matter how expensive the missing items are, to me, when one buys an item 'in good condition' it comes with what is needed to make it work.

The sentence in red, above, shows how Chris is going to handle this transaction. Instead of negotiating for an acceptable solution, he is saying that if the items are not available, *so sad, too bad*.
Hopefully, the items will be in the garage. In either case, the process has provided information about both parties and what to expect in the way they choose to handle a problem.

 

[cguarino30]

Perhaps I wasn't being as descriptive as possible, and for that I apologize. The point I was making is that it was possible to give back any of the cash, as it was already spent delivering the racks.

Ordering me to pay for my own gas, when I had already spent 4 hours of my own time without compensation, and when the gas money itself wasn't even enough to cover me going out of my way, just because the hundreds of dollars worth of racks were missing $10 worth of parts, is simply unfair.

Anyone who has done business with me knows that I am always willing to negotiate. I don't have any room for negotiation here. I already took a major loss (the added value of the racks, the extra money on gas, not to mention 4 hours of my time) on this trade. Dan didn't ask if there was anything I could do. He wasn't even willing to wait and see if the parts were simply sitting at home. He demanded $30, and continued to badger, insult, and harass me for over 3 hours.

Furthermore, he was hostile from the beginning. When I dropped off the racks, I was very upfront about things. He told me they looked like wood, and I explained how to tell the difference. I showed him that a couple of the bins stick, he said it was no problem. Then I left. I don't even know for sure that they are missing the parts, as I was never shown in person. I am simply accepting that on faith, out of good will and respect (something I would appreciate in return, instead of the wild accusations that are being made about my character)

If Dan is so very upset about this, I would be happy to trade back, but I think that is crazy. He'd be going back on a trade that he made out almost double, even factoring in the condition of the racks, not to mention they were delivered to his door for only $50. Nobody else on this board would be willing to do that. And now, here are the options that I gave.

1) wait until I get home on Sunday to look for the parts
2) take a small personal loss (like I already have with my own time, money, and rack value) to replace the missing parts
3) trade back at your own expense

I think all three of those options are more than fair. They are the only options I can offer. The money is gone. I spent it plus more of my own money delivering the racks to his home, as a favor because he had a scheduling conflict with his son's physical therapy (something I still haven't been thanked for) I can't give the money back. It's simply not fair.

Again, if what Dan says is true, those parts will be sitting in the one corner of my garage when I get home, and I will ship them out, and all of this will be for nothing. Conversely, if they are not in my garage, than I am forced to believe that the misunderstanding was not on my end. As far as I know, they had all their parts when I checked them out, when I transported them, and when I dropped them off. If Dan had brought this to my attention while I was still on the premises, I could know for sure that they were missing, but as it is, I am just going on faith.

 

[cguarino30]

Electrical cords and heat tape dont cost a whole lot considering that he now has facility to house several herps in racks that cost hundreds of dollars each new. Its a pretty simple matter to order some new heat tape and get some cord cut at the hardware store. The fifty dollars wasnt a part of the deal.

I don't know where he came up with $30. It was just the demand that he made. I never thought to check up on it.

 

[cguarino30]

To be fair, the $50 was what you offered to have them delivered, not a part of the trade. You agreed to take them in the condition they were in, even though you didnt inspect them you did say they are functional and worth it but you are griping about the cords that he said he would look for which are probably in his garage.
I bet he finds them and sends them to you and its all an honest mistake. Then what?

That's exactly my point. Thank you.

 

[rosebud945]

Dan didn't ask if there was anything I could do. He wasn't even willing to wait and see if the parts were simply sitting at home. He demanded $30, and continued to badger, insult, and harass me for over 3 hours.

Furthermore, he was hostile from the beginning.

Dan's tone, even in the first posting of the text messages that were supposedly edited by Dan, does sound not only hostile but very aggressive to me. I think he jumped the gun here. He should have given Chris time to get home and check his garage. That sort of thing happens. I have delivered and picked up large enclosures, and small parts can and do become separated from the unit during moving.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[cguarino30]

Dan's tone, even in the first posting of the text messages that were supposedly edited by Dan, does sound not only hostile but very aggressive to me. I think he jumped the gun here. He should have given Chris time to get home and check his garage. That sort of thing happens. I have delivered and picked up large enclosures, and small parts can and do become separated from the unit during moving.

Just my 2 cents.

Thank you. I was really concerned. I don't generally respond well to accusations like "u cut off the cord" and "u didn’t check sht before u left." His comments were really accusatory considering the circumstances, and that I had already on multiple occasions explained that I simply can't do anything about it until I get home.

Does he really believe I would go to all this trouble, waste 4 hours of my time, spend my own money on gas, and trade him something at half value, all as part of an elaborate plan to trick him out of a few dollars worth of heat tape and wiring? It's very disconcerting.

 

[JColt]

Well I'd deal with Chris but I would stay away from Dan. Give some one a chance before going postal next time. If you ever did this to me Dan I'd tell you to go pee up a rope. Being unhappy? Sure. Slandering some one and baiting them is another. Some times things go wrong and when they do acting like a child usually gets you nothing.