jj-mitchell
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So to make a long story short and let the screen shots and conversations had with the individual speak for themselves.
I entered in a trade agreement with Chris Salada, we would be trading my male fire ball python, for a female IJ Jaguar of unknown percentage.
I sent my fire to him and he received the animal on July 10th happy and healthy, and to the point that he tells me how amazing the quality of the animal is and will defiantly be purchasing from me in the future.
Today it is over a month later I still dont have my female Jaguar, and open face book to see that he is trying to sell the male fire as a Fire enchi. I messaged him and posted below his ad that is the male that he got from me how could it possibly have become an enchi fire in the month he has had it.....
Upon calling him out on it he explained that he posted to see if others believed that the animal could be a fire enchi also.... but his ad was clearly a sales advertisement with a price of 500 dollars for an animal he traded less than 125 worth for........
Here is the conversation from first contact to where he blocked me
Conversation started June 23
11:04pm
Salada Chris
spinner female, female jaguar carpet python. for your sable, fire yellow belly males.
12:52am
Justin Mitchell
Well damn wish toy woulda thrown this offer my way sooner! The only 1 I have left us the fire....I do have some very nice baby yellow bellies that will be ready after a few more meals
July 7
8:33pm
Salada Chris
i still have the jaguar if you still have the fire
8:49pm
Justin Mitchell
Cool deal how old and what locality
Not being picky just curious
July 8
10:28am
Justin Mitchell
??
Am very interested
11:17am
Salada Chris
she is still a baby ,but she is going to be a screamer. you know carpet pythons only brighten with age this girl is so bright she almost looks white. She is an Irian Jaya Jaguar.
11:50am
Justin Mitchell
I could tell she was good looking..... You gotta deal..... What she eating and what percent ij? The male fire is 300 grams give or take..... Eating live or ft weaned rats
1:59pm
Salada Chris
pinky rats , like I mean just born pinkie rats. And honestly I don't no the percent, I didn't produce her. I could find out if it was necessary.
2:07pm
Justin Mitchell
No worries she looks good
So when you wanna ship
2:10pm
Salada Chris
I cant until tomorrow.send me another pic of the fire please
2:11pm
Justin Mitchell
Can get you a new pic as soon as I get home from work
3:29pm
Salada Chris
Ok
5:32pm
Justin Mitchell
5:32pm
Justin Mitchell
Newer pics of the fire male
July 8
10:29pm
Justin Mitchell
those pics work for you
10:30pm
Salada Chris
oh yeah he is a very nice fire. whats your zip code?
10:30pm
Justin Mitchell
88101
and yours?
10:32pm
Salada Chris
15003
10:33pm
Justin Mitchell
k..... seems like I send alot to PA
lol
12:05am
Salada Chris
yeah i have never shipped to new mexico
July 9
8:52pm
Justin Mitchell
So what's the plan when are you wanting to ship
11:06pm
Salada Chris
tomorrow I guess, I have just never been involved in a trade where i the other person didnt ship first, just because when I would ship first or even at the same time I either got beat completely, or received a snake that wasn't even close to what it was supposed to be.
11:09pm
Justin Mitchell
Lol..... Send me your info and I will ship out tomarrow or the first of next week and you can ship when you are satisfied.... I have made several trades and been burned more than once.....
So I know how you feel..... But I assure you I will get you the exact animal pictured and he is a good example of the fire morph
But I am comfortable shipping first so like I said just get me your info and I will ship tomarrow If you are ok with that ( and if I get back into town in time to get it to fed ex, I work out of town tomarrow) or the first part of next week
11:17pm
Salada Chris
102 crestview village ambridge PA 15003 Chris Salada if I open the box Thursday morning and it has that exact snake u showed me a picture of, wich is a fantastic representation of that morph, then you will have a tracking number that same day.
11:19pm
Justin Mitchell
I personlly wouldn't ship Thursday for Friday delivery..... Kinda curious why you are so set I am trying to screw you.......
11:24pm
Salada Chris
im not set that you are going to screw me, I was ust saying that if its the snake in the pic ill be more than satisfied and you said , if I was satisfied then I could ship,
why wouldn't you ship for Friday deleviry
11:25pm
Justin Mitchell
K.... I just want you to be comfortable with the transaction.... Feel free to check the boi on fauna or I have several references
I never ship for Friday delivery just as a precaution if something gets lost it sets all weekend vs overnight......
And I do only ship next day air priority and have never had any problems
11:31pm
Salada Chris
I don't even have to because some would really have to be in a bad spot to scew someone on a deal as small as ours because with the way facebook is now everyone in the reptile community would know about ten seconds after it happened and that's a big part of the business now. so they would have a hard time getting peoples trust or business after that
11:35pm
Salada Chris
i ship priority overnight gaurenteed to be there by 1030 the next day, plus they do Saturday deleries up here now.
11:36pm
Justin Mitchell
No worries I just have stuff shipped to the fed ex hub so I don't have to worry about animals riding in the heat on a truck all day.... I am in a small enough town the 10:30 guarantee isn't honored
11:40pm
Salada Chris
i see and it gets hot hot down there i bet. well im going to try and get some sleep just let me know if you have a chance to ship tomorrow or not, either way this seems like the start of a good relationship.
11:41pm
Justin Mitchell
I think it will be......
11:42pm
Salada Chris
cool
July 10
12:39pm
Justin Mitchell
Need your email address please
1:37pm
Justin Mitchell
And phone number
3:12pm
Salada Chris
7246500012 102 crestview village ambridge pa 15003
[email protected]
3:40pm
Justin Mitchell
K I have label paid for just gotta get it printed and packed
3:49pm
Salada Chris
cool so do u think you will make it to fedex by tonight?
3:49pm
Justin Mitchell
Yeah I still have like 2 hours before cut off
3:50pm
Salada Chris
nevrmind we are in different timezones
3:50pm
Justin Mitchell
Lol yeah it's only 10 till 4 here
3:51pm
Salada Chris
yeah its like quarter till six here.
5:16pm
Justin Mitchell
He is in the hands of fed ex..... Did you get an email about the shipment
Here is the tracking number just invade
In case
796198788656
July 11
8:02am
Justin Mitchell
Got delivery conformation just wanted to make sure he made it ok.....
8:08am
Salada Chris
hell yeah this thing is sweet!!! im going to shout you out on the good guy bio page I will ship first thing Monday is that cool?
8:09am
Justin Mitchell
Very good I am comfortable with shipping but always feel better knowing everything arrived safely
I told you he was an excellent fire
8:09am
Salada Chris
he is perfect.
8:10am
Justin Mitchell
And he eats live or frozen thawed weaned rats like a champ..... Very good feed response..... Shops make a great addition for you!
Remember to check out my page Primal Scream Reptiles..... There we offer some exclusive deals discounts and private auctions
8:15am
Salada Chris
awesome im going to your page now, I can tell u this you got a customer 4 life!
8:16am
Justin Mitchell
Thank you, always good to make friends and happy customers!
8:19am
Salada Chris
well you did
July 15
5:01pm
Justin Mitchell
When are you planning on shipping
5:19pm
Salada Chris
I will be shipping tomorrow im sorry my wife just had unexpected wrist surgery. your page is pretty cool to can u send pic of yellowbelly, and I need address phone number and email.
6:22pm
Justin Mitchell
Can get you pics of yb babies.....
My phone is 575-760-0990
Email is [email protected]
Address is
Justin Mitchell 700 townsgate plaza Clovis nm 88101
Justin Mitchell 700 towns gate plaza Clovis nm 88101
6:44pm
Salada Chris
cool
7:28pm
Justin Mitchell
Here is one of the male ybs
7:29pm
Justin Mitchell
They are pretty sexy for ybs lots of blushing and very dark....
Can get other pics later just happened to have that on my phone
July 15
10:30pm
Salada Chris
wow they are nice what if I ship you the jungle along with the jag tomorrow you think u can send me one of these?
10:31pm
Justin Mitchell
What jungle? I would have to ask my brother the ybs are his .....
10:35pm
Salada Chris
its cool how much are you selling them for.
10:37pm
Justin Mitchell
The price for People that like our page is 90 plus shipping..... What jungle are you taking about?
10:51pm
Salada Chris
10:51pm
Salada Chris
I have the jag hatchling that your getting, and I also have a jungle hatchling, a coastal carpet that is like 18 inches.
10:53pm
Salada Chris
10:53pm
Salada Chris
I just picked up this jaguar yesterday
10:54pm
Justin Mitchell
Honestly we are in the biggest need of balls with size..... Even a good size normal girl would be more up his ally right now
I will run it by him though.....
That's a pretty good lookin jag
11:04pm
Salada Chris
11:04pm
Salada Chris
I have a female pastel that is sitting at like 1800 grams. I might let her go for the right deal.
11:04pm
Justin Mitchell
What you wanting for her.....?
11:09pm
Salada Chris
im not sure let me think about it she is 99.9% gravid, to either my lesser male or my spider male. ill let you know.
11:10pm
Justin Mitchell
You do boas at all?
11:14pm
Salada Chris
I used to but I don't have any now the wife really doesn't like snakes at all, she defeniately don't like "big snakes". Why what were you thinking?
11:16pm
Justin Mitchell
I have a big Kahl albino female I am trying to move should be on par with what a female pastel that size is worth
11:19pm
Salada Chris
send pic how big? and yeah I would say she is worth about the same, maybe more.
11:20pm
Justin Mitchell
She is 2.5 years old 5 ft long eating large rats frozen thawed
11:34pm
Justin Mitchell
If boas are something you are interested in and you have some other bigger girls you wanna move I have a male breeder super hypo jungle and a 12-15 lb normal girl I could package up for you with that albino girl
Nice thing about the super hypo jungle is no normals.... All hypo and hypo jungles
12:00am
Salada Chris
let me talk to the wife in the mourning and I will let you know early cause its 2 am now hwere so if I talk to here at 7 when she gets up u will have an answer by the time you log on tomorrow. is that cool. I think it sounds great but it is always nice to get the wifes ok.lol
12:01am
Justin Mitchell
Lol ok.... Just let me know what you think and we can iron out the details later on
12:01am
Salada Chris
I sure will.
July 16
2:05pm
Justin Mitchell
You gonna ship today still right
2:58pm
Salada Chris
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3:05pm
Justin Mitchell
?
4:34pm
Salada Chris
my computer is all jacked up we have a tornado watch until 3;00 am, and the electric keeps going in and out, I will ship tomorrow plus I wanted to figure out what kind of deal we could work out on the3 pastel so I can ship everything at once. what do you think about this harlequin girl she is sitting at 2400 grams?
4:36pm
Justin Mitchell
Not real good at identifying harlequin by itself..... But a big girl
4:43pm
Justin Mitchell
Gotta belly pic
4:51pm
Salada Chris
4:51pm
Salada Chris
I wouldn't know either if I didn't get it from one of the most respected breeders in my state, and I have been friends with him for about fifteen years. He is one of those breeders who just don't believe in lying. he hatched out some worlds first and could care less about getting any recongnition. this is the first albino snapping turtle.
5:04pm
Salada Chris
5:57pm
Justin Mitchell
Who produced her?
Did you decide you were interested in the boas
6:06pm
Salada Chris
his name is brad McCarthy, he hatched out the first albino snapping turtles, albino monocle cobra, luecestic rainbow boas. obviously he didn't create the harlequin morph buy he did hatch out this one, I was just giving you a reference on what type of breeder he is. he is friends with bob and kevin[nerd], he just keeps it old school,
6:17pm
Salada Chris
Bob Clark Reptiles
Thank for the offer Chris but I think i've got enough stripes right now. Of course, I remember Brad! Tell him hello for me.
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March 28
7:08pm
Bob Clark Reptiles
If I need any in the future I'll let you know. Thanks Chris.
6:44pm
Justin Mitchell
I looked him up seems reputable
Were you interested in the boas then ?
6:50pm
Salada Chris
yeah could you send pics.
6:51pm
Justin Mitchell
Yeah I can
6:54pm
Salada Chris
thanks believe I know its sucks sending pics,it might not seem like much to the person asking for the pics but they don't realie you probably already sent the same pics to ten other people that day.
6:55pm
Justin Mitchell
6:55pm
Justin Mitchell
That's the Kahl and the super hypo jungle
The normal girl is just that a big normal Colombian
7:06pm
Justin Mitchell
And I don't mind getting pics I am just sick as hell
7:08pm
Salada Chris
I love them, now my wife not so much, the yellowbellys are the only ball pythons you have that you are willing to part with?
7:08pm
Justin Mitchell
Until more hatch....
7:09pm
Salada Chris
yeah I seen your post whats wrong just like the flu or what
7:09pm
Justin Mitchell
And all my girls are going late !
Like pnumonia like shit with a fever and whole body aches.... Poopy
You know what the albino is worth from our previous conversations..... The only super hypo jungles I can find are 800 as babies
7:17pm
Salada Chris
your offering me the boas for my?
7:21pm
Justin Mitchell
Dunno lol the pastel and......
July 17
9:37am
Justin Mitchell
???
I am looking for 1400 trade on the group.... Or would do 1200 and you pay all shipping you would come out about 100 bucks ahead paying shipping
10:21am
Salada Chris
what are you offering just for the pastel.
10:23am
Justin Mitchell
Would think the albino would be a good trade for just the pastel....... Would prefer to move the group
10:37am
Salada Chris
It would be great buy my wife is insiting on not wanting boas, I could possible sell her. give me like an hour either way ill ship the jag out today, but will talk to you about the big snakes in like an hour my house iscray right now I think there is like 22000 thousand little kids running around .lol
11:12am
Justin Mitchell
Lol home daycare
11:15am
Salada Chris
unfortunately.
11:15am
Justin Mitchell
Hey bro money is money.... My wife did it for a while
11:33am
Salada Chris
1 oif my twins take seizures sio she has to work from home.
11:37am
Justin Mitchell
I understand my son was a heart baby been through several surgeries ect and not being able to both work
11:39am
Salada Chris
yeah its rough
11:41am
Justin Mitchell
It gets better.... My son is nearly 10 and 3 major heart surgeries through life and tough as nails..... Eventually he will need a heart transplant but hopefully not any time soon
July 17
6:05pm
Salada Chris
Thanks I hope so,sorry im just now replying but not only did I have all those kids here, but mother nature decided to start thundering and lightning, the latter part of wich just had to hit my transformer and take the power out. Thankfully it was the same one that got hit about a year ago, and they replaced it last year so I guess that made it easier to fix. Because when that transformwer blew last time we went without powqer for thirty nine hours.
6:07pm
Justin Mitchell
k.... so we are looking at next week now
6:12pm
Salada Chris
yeah wich is actually better because im going to brads on Saturday (my snake guy) and I think if my wife heres from him that making the trade for your boas would be a good investment, then she will be more apt to do it. one more time how big are the boas. will the male super be able to go this upcoming season?
6:12pm
Justin Mitchell
he bred this season
the albino will be questionable.... if not in the fall next year for sure
6:17pm
Salada Chris
Im not worried about her I would rather it be that way because if she could bred now that would be a big snake and like I said my wife and big snakes don't go to well together yet. And just to let you know I value our business relationship im going to send you twenty dollars through pay pal, because you were cool enough to ship first and you still haven't got your snake yet.
6:17pm
Justin Mitchell
I wouldnt worry about the money....
I am not upset at this point
and by big snake, the albino is 4.5-5ft and 8-10 lbs
the normal girl (if you want her would be throwing her in for free anyway) is prolly 7 ft and 15 lbs
6:23pm
Salada Chris
i mean big like the boas brad has his females are pushing 11 feet maybe, but they are so thick it looks like they swallowed telephone poles.
6:24pm
Justin Mitchell
lol.. I dont have any that big...... BCI boas over 8ft are pretty few and far between
6:27pm
Salada Chris
BCI boas ? BCI stands for what
6:29pm
Justin Mitchell
in red tail boas there are 2 species.... BCI (boa constrictor Imperator) that are native from mexico south to columbia.... BCC or true redtails (boa constrictor constrictor) are the biger boas, they can be 13 ft and as big around as a burm.... stuff like surinam, peruvians ect
6:33pm
Salada Chris
do they have really red tails even through adulthood cause if so that's what he has, as well as both brazilan and Columbian rainbows
6:35pm
Justin Mitchell
the True red tails do have a more red tail, where columbians and other BCI boas brown out to maroon or brown.... and just so you know there are no morphs in BCC....
6:46pm
Salada Chris
i dint know that i just know that brad has some what i though were just amazing looking redtails that were huge, they just looked like really nice looking "normal" redtails but lighter in color with really red tails. he also has hypo stuff ghost , sunglow ,snow, albino, lipstick stuff so all of those are bci, exept the first i described? he also has luesestic rainbow boas i watched them hatch.
6:53pm
Justin Mitchell
yeah all the morphs would be bci or atleast crosses
July 20
6:43pm
Justin Mitchell
hey just as a heads up, I will be leaving thursday morning, I need that female shipped tuesday at the latest
July 20
10:30pm
Salada Chris
no problem
10:30pm
Justin Mitchell
k...
July 23
10:27am
Justin Mitchell
I need that girl sent out today
11:54am
Salada Chris
i know im getting her ready now. Hey how much was shipping when you sent the fire.?
2:12pm
Justin Mitchell
About 55 bucks I think
July 23
5:39pm
Justin Mitchell
Did you get her sent
July 24
12:19am
Justin Mitchell
?????
July 24
8:04am
Justin Mitchell
Do I have an animal to go pick up today or not
July 24
1:30pm
Salada Chris
no you don't, im embaressed to admit this and don't know how it happened but I have a little bit of a mite problem. I bought this stuff called provent- a - mite. but im not going to ship her until I know its taken care of . I only seen two, and they weren't even on her but my breeder said if you seen one you have a lot more than that. so this stuff is supposed to kill everything. I just treated the racks last night.
1:34pm
Justin Mitchell
Using Pam will work but it won't kill the eggs you are gonna have to retreat every 3 days for probably 2 weeks
To stay ahead of the eggs hatching before the new babies start reproducing
1:43pm
Salada Chris
your talking about this stuff, I thought it killed eggs and all. I have never been this scared about my snakes. I got this jag, and didn't quarantine him like I should have, so it either is the cause or I heard some bedding can be infested. what can I do to ensure they are all takin care of?
1:50pm
Justin Mitchell
I don't believe prevent a mite kills eggs..... I would continue to treat every 3 days for a couple weeks to get em gone.... I have been told that the rid x shampoo will kill eggs and all and is safe to bathe the snakes in
So if you soaked the snakes and treated bedding you should get them also
And bedding being infested is bs
2:49pm
Salada Chris
that's what I told the guy I got the snake from I have been using the same bedding for ten years and never had a single mite. Should I make sure the snakes drink water befor I soak them in rid ex cause when I just soak my snakes for other reasons like maybe to help shed, or go to the bathroom they like to drink the water, and I don't want them to drink the rid ex.
2:50pm
Justin Mitchell
I guess..... Something I never really thought about but was an old trick from a colubrid breeder with 30 years experience
3:26pm
Salada Chris
I trust you, I have never been in this situation before, and this guy is playing dumb I now know that the snake I got from him is the source because after further examination of all my snakes that one is the only one that had visible mites, they were liked tucked in under his scales and shit. Good thing I got albinos and jags cause those thins would be hard to spot on darker animals.
July 31
2:55pm
Justin Mitchell
How's it going with the mites
3:32pm
Salada Chris
its gotten way better I find like one in a water dish like every two days. But I cant see any when I search and check the snakes so brad said that means the ones im finding our the last o the eggs hatching and dying, I don't know any more sometimes I want to just give up.
3:34pm
Justin Mitchell
Lol mites ain't a reason to give up.... Couple years back my wife bought an albino female that came in with sometime of fucking respiratory shit that killed about 15k of my animals still trying to rebuild.....
When the vet cultured it it was mutating faster than antibiotics could help it
Monday
2:18pm
Justin Mitchell
So how we lookin on the carpet
2:24pm
Salada Chris
I think I am confident enough to ship her this week, I promise she is fine as soon as I knew I had mites I put her in a totally different room she wqas still treated just like all my snakes but I wanted to make double sure that I wasn't going to ship a person like you a snake that even had a 1% chance of not being totally heathly. and as for all my other snakes I haven't found any since we last talked and I have them on paper towels, and clean their water twice a DAY I HAVENT SEEN ANY IN THE WATER OR ON THE PAPERTOWELS.
2:25pm
Justin Mitchell
Cool so when you planin on shipping
And I am not trying to harass you about it
Just curious
2:26pm
Salada Chris
However u know how you said a respitory infection killed a lot of your snakes? How do they get a respitory infection and other than baytril how can you treat it?
2:27pm
Justin Mitchell
Have a vet grow a culture and find an antibiotic that works against the infection....
Are you having problems
2:28pm
Salada Chris
harass me? buddy you have been so fucking cool about this shit its unreal I owe you a snake and you only messaged me like three times and its been like amonth, I want to thank you for that.
2:28pm
Justin Mitchell
With ri?
2:28pm
Salada Chris
I will ship Wednesday.
2:29pm
Justin Mitchell
Sounds good
I am actually going to be getting out of balls all the way around in the near future
2:30pm
Salada Chris
and yes one of my snakes has been opening its mouth a lot. no bubbles but I can hear a weas sound, so know I have snakes in three of our four bed rooms
the wife is not happy about that.
2:31pm
Justin Mitchell
If its still minor I would start by cleaning everything thoroughly, and putting lysterine in the water
And put water over hot spot so it can off gas
2:33pm
Salada Chris
i heard that, and if you are getting into carpets more than i have a female jungle jaguar female that is as swet as she is pretty. she is seven ft.
2:33pm
Salada Chris
2:35pm
Justin Mitchell
I am gonna work some carpets maybe a trio of gtps, some hognose and really dive into sd retics
2:38pm
Salada Chris
that's where its at with all the badass morphs they are by far the pretiest looking snake even in its wild type, itws just the size keep people away, if you can get a retic to a manageable size everyone will want them so the sd retic is the key to that. good choice.
2:38pm
Justin Mitchell
I may be interested in that girl
2:38pm
Salada Chris
let me know i can ship her with the other female
2:39pm
Justin Mitchell
Not sure what I would have to trade for her at the moment
Yeah I will have albino super tigers in 50% sd size in 2015
Should have some albino 50% sd stuff this year
2:46pm
Salada Chris
your in good shape then because i feel a shift coming real soon, and sd retics and dwarf burm stuff is the future. did you see the pied burm? When i seen it it got me interested so i googled morphs and even they have some cool stuff.
2:48pm
Justin Mitchell
Yeah but unless legislation changes Burms won't happen
2:48pm
Salada Chris
true
2:48pm
Justin Mitchell
I am hoping to have at least het pied super dwarf retics soon
I really dig the pied retics
2:52pm
Salada Chris
im drooling just thinking about them, i would give the majority of my ball python collection for one.
2:53pm
Justin Mitchell
Lol well at 50% sd females max around 8 ft
And I should be on the front lines of producing sd pied if all work out for me
3:27pm
Salada Chris
i hope it does.
4:12pm
Justin Mitchell
Yup cause by the time I produce pieds I will have platty, albino tiger ect to breed to pied
Wednesday
10:34am
Justin Mitchell
You are shipping today correct? Let me know when you have a tracking number
Wednesday
6:57pm
Justin Mitchell
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Thursday
10:42am
Justin Mitchell
Did you ship that carpet
Thursday
5:38pm
Salada Chris
please don't have your wife message me talking about further action bro, I understand you have been very cool about my situation but my son had another seizure, this is the first time I opened facebook today and their is three messages from your wife, they have my son hooked up to an EEG machine to do an overnite EEG, so no I didn't ship the snake yet and probably wont till tomorrow being that it is already like 8 , here
5:39pm
Justin Mitchell
I didnt really ask her to, she ask me aobut it and I told her I dunno cant get an ansewer from you.......
5:40pm
Justin Mitchell
I understand the medical problem, but to be honest she is alot more buisness minded than I am, and she sees it is about a month after you got the fire and wants something in return.... that being said I am still not terribly upset and have already dealt with my wife when I found out what happend
5:40pm
Justin Mitchell
and you cannot ship tomarow it is thursday and tomarrow is friday
so shipping tomarrow isnt an option
5:45pm
Salada Chris
I forgot u don't except Friday or Saturday deleveries, ok I understand your wife s point you guys have kids to normally I would have flipped and wrote some crazy message in a situation like this , but respect you to much and relized that its not you or your wifes fault about my son its just hard to see him hooked up to all these fucking machines then come home to water the snakes check facebook and that was the first thing I saw. Im sorry bro
5:48pm
Justin Mitchell
well, like I said, I am a pushover until I get mad, at this point she spoke up because she felt like I was being taken advantage of ( she does that alot because I walk away instead of blowing a gasket and hulk smash shit) like I said before I am not to concerned I have set with my son in hopitals hooked up to ventilators ect
5:51pm
Salada Chris
it just sucks the mites no my son, but you telling me about losing 12 k worth of snakes, and your son having health issues makes me feel like looking in the mirror and saying man up bitch it could be worse, and it could be.
Tell your wife im sorry I would have answered her but didn't get on her till know, but im taking my labtop to the hosptital, and im not trying to takeadvantage of anyone im not going to ruin a potential business relationship nor my reputation over one snake
5:54pm
Justin Mitchell
I aint trying to beat you up, dont get me wrong when I went to fed ex today (as crazy as the day already was at work) and didnt have anything I kinda got pissed, that I couldnt get ahold of you. but you have a good reason and I know you will make it right.....
And to be fair most likely wont ruin your rep if you did fuck me, the dude that sent me this damn champagne never got taken to the boi.... lost 900 bucks on that one
6:02pm
Salada Chris
im sorry and I will make it right rep or not.
6:03pm
Justin Mitchell
No worries
What you think that female jungle jag is worth
Today
2:48pm
Justin Mitchell
So how did that male fire turn into an enchi fire...... And I know that is the same animal......
Today
7:47pm
Salada Chris
no some just mentioned that it looked enchiesh so I asked on ball python values how muchn an enchi fire would go for and posted the pic and got good feed back, what was the pairing that produced him?
7:48pm
Justin Mitchell
Fires are usually reduced and banded patterned
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/enchi-fire/
7:50pm
Salada Chris
look at the last or next to last one
7:54pm
Justin Mitchell
Don't really need to other than banded pattern there is nothing about that animal that even resembles an enchi.... And no way it is an enchi
It came from a fire fly clutch
Fire x pastel
Now I really wanna get that jag here and be done with this...
7:59pm
Salada Chris
I just seen your post and I don't know what your talking about bro
8:01pm
Justin Mitchell
What do you mean
8:06pm
Justin Mitchell
What are you not understanding
8:08pm
Salada Chris
I got your jag he or she will be shipped this week,
8:09pm
Justin Mitchell
Nope the deal was a female
Always was what is this he or she
8:12pm
Salada Chris
i cant tell a fire from an enchi i hope i still know how to sex snakes that ad i posted was just to see what people said and you really full blown called me out by name. that was fucked up bruh.
8:13pm
Justin Mitchell
You had it for sale as an enchi fire..... Not asking hey is this an enchi fire
There is a difference
8:17pm
Salada Chris
your jag will b shipped will imout
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I entered in a trade agreement with Chris Salada, we would be trading my male fire ball python, for a female IJ Jaguar of unknown percentage.
I sent my fire to him and he received the animal on July 10th happy and healthy, and to the point that he tells me how amazing the quality of the animal is and will defiantly be purchasing from me in the future.
Today it is over a month later I still dont have my female Jaguar, and open face book to see that he is trying to sell the male fire as a Fire enchi. I messaged him and posted below his ad that is the male that he got from me how could it possibly have become an enchi fire in the month he has had it.....
Upon calling him out on it he explained that he posted to see if others believed that the animal could be a fire enchi also.... but his ad was clearly a sales advertisement with a price of 500 dollars for an animal he traded less than 125 worth for........
Here is the conversation from first contact to where he blocked me
Conversation started June 23
11:04pm
Salada Chris
spinner female, female jaguar carpet python. for your sable, fire yellow belly males.
12:52am
Justin Mitchell
Well damn wish toy woulda thrown this offer my way sooner! The only 1 I have left us the fire....I do have some very nice baby yellow bellies that will be ready after a few more meals
July 7
8:33pm
Salada Chris
i still have the jaguar if you still have the fire
8:49pm
Justin Mitchell
Cool deal how old and what locality
Not being picky just curious
July 8
10:28am
Justin Mitchell
??
Am very interested
11:17am
Salada Chris
she is still a baby ,but she is going to be a screamer. you know carpet pythons only brighten with age this girl is so bright she almost looks white. She is an Irian Jaya Jaguar.
11:50am
Justin Mitchell
I could tell she was good looking..... You gotta deal..... What she eating and what percent ij? The male fire is 300 grams give or take..... Eating live or ft weaned rats
1:59pm
Salada Chris
pinky rats , like I mean just born pinkie rats. And honestly I don't no the percent, I didn't produce her. I could find out if it was necessary.
2:07pm
Justin Mitchell
No worries she looks good
So when you wanna ship
2:10pm
Salada Chris
I cant until tomorrow.send me another pic of the fire please
2:11pm
Justin Mitchell
Can get you a new pic as soon as I get home from work
3:29pm
Salada Chris
Ok
5:32pm
Justin Mitchell
5:32pm
Justin Mitchell
Newer pics of the fire male
July 8
10:29pm
Justin Mitchell
those pics work for you
10:30pm
Salada Chris
oh yeah he is a very nice fire. whats your zip code?
10:30pm
Justin Mitchell
88101
and yours?
10:32pm
Salada Chris
15003
10:33pm
Justin Mitchell
k..... seems like I send alot to PA
lol
12:05am
Salada Chris
yeah i have never shipped to new mexico
July 9
8:52pm
Justin Mitchell
So what's the plan when are you wanting to ship
11:06pm
Salada Chris
tomorrow I guess, I have just never been involved in a trade where i the other person didnt ship first, just because when I would ship first or even at the same time I either got beat completely, or received a snake that wasn't even close to what it was supposed to be.
11:09pm
Justin Mitchell
Lol..... Send me your info and I will ship out tomarrow or the first of next week and you can ship when you are satisfied.... I have made several trades and been burned more than once.....
So I know how you feel..... But I assure you I will get you the exact animal pictured and he is a good example of the fire morph
But I am comfortable shipping first so like I said just get me your info and I will ship tomarrow If you are ok with that ( and if I get back into town in time to get it to fed ex, I work out of town tomarrow) or the first part of next week
11:17pm
Salada Chris
102 crestview village ambridge PA 15003 Chris Salada if I open the box Thursday morning and it has that exact snake u showed me a picture of, wich is a fantastic representation of that morph, then you will have a tracking number that same day.
11:19pm
Justin Mitchell
I personlly wouldn't ship Thursday for Friday delivery..... Kinda curious why you are so set I am trying to screw you.......
11:24pm
Salada Chris
im not set that you are going to screw me, I was ust saying that if its the snake in the pic ill be more than satisfied and you said , if I was satisfied then I could ship,
why wouldn't you ship for Friday deleviry
11:25pm
Justin Mitchell
K.... I just want you to be comfortable with the transaction.... Feel free to check the boi on fauna or I have several references
I never ship for Friday delivery just as a precaution if something gets lost it sets all weekend vs overnight......
And I do only ship next day air priority and have never had any problems
11:31pm
Salada Chris
I don't even have to because some would really have to be in a bad spot to scew someone on a deal as small as ours because with the way facebook is now everyone in the reptile community would know about ten seconds after it happened and that's a big part of the business now. so they would have a hard time getting peoples trust or business after that
11:35pm
Salada Chris
i ship priority overnight gaurenteed to be there by 1030 the next day, plus they do Saturday deleries up here now.
11:36pm
Justin Mitchell
No worries I just have stuff shipped to the fed ex hub so I don't have to worry about animals riding in the heat on a truck all day.... I am in a small enough town the 10:30 guarantee isn't honored
11:40pm
Salada Chris
i see and it gets hot hot down there i bet. well im going to try and get some sleep just let me know if you have a chance to ship tomorrow or not, either way this seems like the start of a good relationship.
11:41pm
Justin Mitchell
I think it will be......
11:42pm
Salada Chris
cool
July 10
12:39pm
Justin Mitchell
Need your email address please
1:37pm
Justin Mitchell
And phone number
3:12pm
Salada Chris
7246500012 102 crestview village ambridge pa 15003
[email protected]
3:40pm
Justin Mitchell
K I have label paid for just gotta get it printed and packed
3:49pm
Salada Chris
cool so do u think you will make it to fedex by tonight?
3:49pm
Justin Mitchell
Yeah I still have like 2 hours before cut off
3:50pm
Salada Chris
nevrmind we are in different timezones
3:50pm
Justin Mitchell
Lol yeah it's only 10 till 4 here
3:51pm
Salada Chris
yeah its like quarter till six here.
5:16pm
Justin Mitchell
He is in the hands of fed ex..... Did you get an email about the shipment
Here is the tracking number just invade
In case
796198788656
July 11
8:02am
Justin Mitchell
Got delivery conformation just wanted to make sure he made it ok.....
8:08am
Salada Chris
hell yeah this thing is sweet!!! im going to shout you out on the good guy bio page I will ship first thing Monday is that cool?
8:09am
Justin Mitchell
Very good I am comfortable with shipping but always feel better knowing everything arrived safely
I told you he was an excellent fire
8:09am
Salada Chris
he is perfect.
8:10am
Justin Mitchell
And he eats live or frozen thawed weaned rats like a champ..... Very good feed response..... Shops make a great addition for you!
Remember to check out my page Primal Scream Reptiles..... There we offer some exclusive deals discounts and private auctions
8:15am
Salada Chris
awesome im going to your page now, I can tell u this you got a customer 4 life!
8:16am
Justin Mitchell
Thank you, always good to make friends and happy customers!
8:19am
Salada Chris
well you did
July 15
5:01pm
Justin Mitchell
When are you planning on shipping
5:19pm
Salada Chris
I will be shipping tomorrow im sorry my wife just had unexpected wrist surgery. your page is pretty cool to can u send pic of yellowbelly, and I need address phone number and email.
6:22pm
Justin Mitchell
Can get you pics of yb babies.....
My phone is 575-760-0990
Email is [email protected]
Address is
Justin Mitchell 700 townsgate plaza Clovis nm 88101
Justin Mitchell 700 towns gate plaza Clovis nm 88101
6:44pm
Salada Chris
cool
7:28pm
Justin Mitchell
Here is one of the male ybs
7:29pm
Justin Mitchell
They are pretty sexy for ybs lots of blushing and very dark....
Can get other pics later just happened to have that on my phone
July 15
10:30pm
Salada Chris
wow they are nice what if I ship you the jungle along with the jag tomorrow you think u can send me one of these?
10:31pm
Justin Mitchell
What jungle? I would have to ask my brother the ybs are his .....
10:35pm
Salada Chris
its cool how much are you selling them for.
10:37pm
Justin Mitchell
The price for People that like our page is 90 plus shipping..... What jungle are you taking about?
10:51pm
Salada Chris
10:51pm
Salada Chris
I have the jag hatchling that your getting, and I also have a jungle hatchling, a coastal carpet that is like 18 inches.
10:53pm
Salada Chris
10:53pm
Salada Chris
I just picked up this jaguar yesterday
10:54pm
Justin Mitchell
Honestly we are in the biggest need of balls with size..... Even a good size normal girl would be more up his ally right now
I will run it by him though.....
That's a pretty good lookin jag
11:04pm
Salada Chris
11:04pm
Salada Chris
I have a female pastel that is sitting at like 1800 grams. I might let her go for the right deal.
11:04pm
Justin Mitchell
What you wanting for her.....?
11:09pm
Salada Chris
im not sure let me think about it she is 99.9% gravid, to either my lesser male or my spider male. ill let you know.
11:10pm
Justin Mitchell
You do boas at all?
11:14pm
Salada Chris
I used to but I don't have any now the wife really doesn't like snakes at all, she defeniately don't like "big snakes". Why what were you thinking?
11:16pm
Justin Mitchell
I have a big Kahl albino female I am trying to move should be on par with what a female pastel that size is worth
11:19pm
Salada Chris
send pic how big? and yeah I would say she is worth about the same, maybe more.
11:20pm
Justin Mitchell
She is 2.5 years old 5 ft long eating large rats frozen thawed
11:34pm
Justin Mitchell
If boas are something you are interested in and you have some other bigger girls you wanna move I have a male breeder super hypo jungle and a 12-15 lb normal girl I could package up for you with that albino girl
Nice thing about the super hypo jungle is no normals.... All hypo and hypo jungles
12:00am
Salada Chris
let me talk to the wife in the mourning and I will let you know early cause its 2 am now hwere so if I talk to here at 7 when she gets up u will have an answer by the time you log on tomorrow. is that cool. I think it sounds great but it is always nice to get the wifes ok.lol
12:01am
Justin Mitchell
Lol ok.... Just let me know what you think and we can iron out the details later on
12:01am
Salada Chris
I sure will.
July 16
2:05pm
Justin Mitchell
You gonna ship today still right
2:58pm
Salada Chris
i
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3:05pm
Justin Mitchell
?
4:34pm
Salada Chris
my computer is all jacked up we have a tornado watch until 3;00 am, and the electric keeps going in and out, I will ship tomorrow plus I wanted to figure out what kind of deal we could work out on the3 pastel so I can ship everything at once. what do you think about this harlequin girl she is sitting at 2400 grams?
4:36pm
Justin Mitchell
Not real good at identifying harlequin by itself..... But a big girl
4:43pm
Justin Mitchell
Gotta belly pic
4:51pm
Salada Chris
4:51pm
Salada Chris
I wouldn't know either if I didn't get it from one of the most respected breeders in my state, and I have been friends with him for about fifteen years. He is one of those breeders who just don't believe in lying. he hatched out some worlds first and could care less about getting any recongnition. this is the first albino snapping turtle.
5:04pm
Salada Chris
5:57pm
Justin Mitchell
Who produced her?
Did you decide you were interested in the boas
6:06pm
Salada Chris
his name is brad McCarthy, he hatched out the first albino snapping turtles, albino monocle cobra, luecestic rainbow boas. obviously he didn't create the harlequin morph buy he did hatch out this one, I was just giving you a reference on what type of breeder he is. he is friends with bob and kevin[nerd], he just keeps it old school,
6:17pm
Salada Chris
Bob Clark Reptiles
Thank for the offer Chris but I think i've got enough stripes right now. Of course, I remember Brad! Tell him hello for me.
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March 28
7:08pm
Bob Clark Reptiles
If I need any in the future I'll let you know. Thanks Chris.
6:44pm
Justin Mitchell
I looked him up seems reputable
Were you interested in the boas then ?
6:50pm
Salada Chris
yeah could you send pics.
6:51pm
Justin Mitchell
Yeah I can
6:54pm
Salada Chris
thanks believe I know its sucks sending pics,it might not seem like much to the person asking for the pics but they don't realie you probably already sent the same pics to ten other people that day.
6:55pm
Justin Mitchell
6:55pm
Justin Mitchell
That's the Kahl and the super hypo jungle
The normal girl is just that a big normal Colombian
7:06pm
Justin Mitchell
And I don't mind getting pics I am just sick as hell
7:08pm
Salada Chris
I love them, now my wife not so much, the yellowbellys are the only ball pythons you have that you are willing to part with?
7:08pm
Justin Mitchell
Until more hatch....
7:09pm
Salada Chris
yeah I seen your post whats wrong just like the flu or what
7:09pm
Justin Mitchell
And all my girls are going late !
Like pnumonia like shit with a fever and whole body aches.... Poopy
You know what the albino is worth from our previous conversations..... The only super hypo jungles I can find are 800 as babies
7:17pm
Salada Chris
your offering me the boas for my?
7:21pm
Justin Mitchell
Dunno lol the pastel and......
July 17
9:37am
Justin Mitchell
???
I am looking for 1400 trade on the group.... Or would do 1200 and you pay all shipping you would come out about 100 bucks ahead paying shipping
10:21am
Salada Chris
what are you offering just for the pastel.
10:23am
Justin Mitchell
Would think the albino would be a good trade for just the pastel....... Would prefer to move the group
10:37am
Salada Chris
It would be great buy my wife is insiting on not wanting boas, I could possible sell her. give me like an hour either way ill ship the jag out today, but will talk to you about the big snakes in like an hour my house iscray right now I think there is like 22000 thousand little kids running around .lol
11:12am
Justin Mitchell
Lol home daycare
11:15am
Salada Chris
unfortunately.
11:15am
Justin Mitchell
Hey bro money is money.... My wife did it for a while
11:33am
Salada Chris
1 oif my twins take seizures sio she has to work from home.
11:37am
Justin Mitchell
I understand my son was a heart baby been through several surgeries ect and not being able to both work
11:39am
Salada Chris
yeah its rough
11:41am
Justin Mitchell
It gets better.... My son is nearly 10 and 3 major heart surgeries through life and tough as nails..... Eventually he will need a heart transplant but hopefully not any time soon
July 17
6:05pm
Salada Chris
Thanks I hope so,sorry im just now replying but not only did I have all those kids here, but mother nature decided to start thundering and lightning, the latter part of wich just had to hit my transformer and take the power out. Thankfully it was the same one that got hit about a year ago, and they replaced it last year so I guess that made it easier to fix. Because when that transformwer blew last time we went without powqer for thirty nine hours.
6:07pm
Justin Mitchell
k.... so we are looking at next week now
6:12pm
Salada Chris
yeah wich is actually better because im going to brads on Saturday (my snake guy) and I think if my wife heres from him that making the trade for your boas would be a good investment, then she will be more apt to do it. one more time how big are the boas. will the male super be able to go this upcoming season?
6:12pm
Justin Mitchell
he bred this season
the albino will be questionable.... if not in the fall next year for sure
6:17pm
Salada Chris
Im not worried about her I would rather it be that way because if she could bred now that would be a big snake and like I said my wife and big snakes don't go to well together yet. And just to let you know I value our business relationship im going to send you twenty dollars through pay pal, because you were cool enough to ship first and you still haven't got your snake yet.
6:17pm
Justin Mitchell
I wouldnt worry about the money....
I am not upset at this point
and by big snake, the albino is 4.5-5ft and 8-10 lbs
the normal girl (if you want her would be throwing her in for free anyway) is prolly 7 ft and 15 lbs
6:23pm
Salada Chris
i mean big like the boas brad has his females are pushing 11 feet maybe, but they are so thick it looks like they swallowed telephone poles.
6:24pm
Justin Mitchell
lol.. I dont have any that big...... BCI boas over 8ft are pretty few and far between
6:27pm
Salada Chris
BCI boas ? BCI stands for what
6:29pm
Justin Mitchell
in red tail boas there are 2 species.... BCI (boa constrictor Imperator) that are native from mexico south to columbia.... BCC or true redtails (boa constrictor constrictor) are the biger boas, they can be 13 ft and as big around as a burm.... stuff like surinam, peruvians ect
6:33pm
Salada Chris
do they have really red tails even through adulthood cause if so that's what he has, as well as both brazilan and Columbian rainbows
6:35pm
Justin Mitchell
the True red tails do have a more red tail, where columbians and other BCI boas brown out to maroon or brown.... and just so you know there are no morphs in BCC....
6:46pm
Salada Chris
i dint know that i just know that brad has some what i though were just amazing looking redtails that were huge, they just looked like really nice looking "normal" redtails but lighter in color with really red tails. he also has hypo stuff ghost , sunglow ,snow, albino, lipstick stuff so all of those are bci, exept the first i described? he also has luesestic rainbow boas i watched them hatch.
6:53pm
Justin Mitchell
yeah all the morphs would be bci or atleast crosses
July 20
6:43pm
Justin Mitchell
hey just as a heads up, I will be leaving thursday morning, I need that female shipped tuesday at the latest
July 20
10:30pm
Salada Chris
no problem
10:30pm
Justin Mitchell
k...
July 23
10:27am
Justin Mitchell
I need that girl sent out today
11:54am
Salada Chris
i know im getting her ready now. Hey how much was shipping when you sent the fire.?
2:12pm
Justin Mitchell
About 55 bucks I think
July 23
5:39pm
Justin Mitchell
Did you get her sent
July 24
12:19am
Justin Mitchell
?????
July 24
8:04am
Justin Mitchell
Do I have an animal to go pick up today or not
July 24
1:30pm
Salada Chris
no you don't, im embaressed to admit this and don't know how it happened but I have a little bit of a mite problem. I bought this stuff called provent- a - mite. but im not going to ship her until I know its taken care of . I only seen two, and they weren't even on her but my breeder said if you seen one you have a lot more than that. so this stuff is supposed to kill everything. I just treated the racks last night.
1:34pm
Justin Mitchell
Using Pam will work but it won't kill the eggs you are gonna have to retreat every 3 days for probably 2 weeks
To stay ahead of the eggs hatching before the new babies start reproducing
1:43pm
Salada Chris
your talking about this stuff, I thought it killed eggs and all. I have never been this scared about my snakes. I got this jag, and didn't quarantine him like I should have, so it either is the cause or I heard some bedding can be infested. what can I do to ensure they are all takin care of?
1:50pm
Justin Mitchell
I don't believe prevent a mite kills eggs..... I would continue to treat every 3 days for a couple weeks to get em gone.... I have been told that the rid x shampoo will kill eggs and all and is safe to bathe the snakes in
So if you soaked the snakes and treated bedding you should get them also
And bedding being infested is bs
2:49pm
Salada Chris
that's what I told the guy I got the snake from I have been using the same bedding for ten years and never had a single mite. Should I make sure the snakes drink water befor I soak them in rid ex cause when I just soak my snakes for other reasons like maybe to help shed, or go to the bathroom they like to drink the water, and I don't want them to drink the rid ex.
2:50pm
Justin Mitchell
I guess..... Something I never really thought about but was an old trick from a colubrid breeder with 30 years experience
3:26pm
Salada Chris
I trust you, I have never been in this situation before, and this guy is playing dumb I now know that the snake I got from him is the source because after further examination of all my snakes that one is the only one that had visible mites, they were liked tucked in under his scales and shit. Good thing I got albinos and jags cause those thins would be hard to spot on darker animals.
July 31
2:55pm
Justin Mitchell
How's it going with the mites
3:32pm
Salada Chris
its gotten way better I find like one in a water dish like every two days. But I cant see any when I search and check the snakes so brad said that means the ones im finding our the last o the eggs hatching and dying, I don't know any more sometimes I want to just give up.
3:34pm
Justin Mitchell
Lol mites ain't a reason to give up.... Couple years back my wife bought an albino female that came in with sometime of fucking respiratory shit that killed about 15k of my animals still trying to rebuild.....
When the vet cultured it it was mutating faster than antibiotics could help it
Monday
2:18pm
Justin Mitchell
So how we lookin on the carpet
2:24pm
Salada Chris
I think I am confident enough to ship her this week, I promise she is fine as soon as I knew I had mites I put her in a totally different room she wqas still treated just like all my snakes but I wanted to make double sure that I wasn't going to ship a person like you a snake that even had a 1% chance of not being totally heathly. and as for all my other snakes I haven't found any since we last talked and I have them on paper towels, and clean their water twice a DAY I HAVENT SEEN ANY IN THE WATER OR ON THE PAPERTOWELS.
2:25pm
Justin Mitchell
Cool so when you planin on shipping
And I am not trying to harass you about it
Just curious
2:26pm
Salada Chris
However u know how you said a respitory infection killed a lot of your snakes? How do they get a respitory infection and other than baytril how can you treat it?
2:27pm
Justin Mitchell
Have a vet grow a culture and find an antibiotic that works against the infection....
Are you having problems
2:28pm
Salada Chris
harass me? buddy you have been so fucking cool about this shit its unreal I owe you a snake and you only messaged me like three times and its been like amonth, I want to thank you for that.
2:28pm
Justin Mitchell
With ri?
2:28pm
Salada Chris
I will ship Wednesday.
2:29pm
Justin Mitchell
Sounds good
I am actually going to be getting out of balls all the way around in the near future
2:30pm
Salada Chris
and yes one of my snakes has been opening its mouth a lot. no bubbles but I can hear a weas sound, so know I have snakes in three of our four bed rooms
the wife is not happy about that.
2:31pm
Justin Mitchell
If its still minor I would start by cleaning everything thoroughly, and putting lysterine in the water
And put water over hot spot so it can off gas
2:33pm
Salada Chris
i heard that, and if you are getting into carpets more than i have a female jungle jaguar female that is as swet as she is pretty. she is seven ft.
2:33pm
Salada Chris
2:35pm
Justin Mitchell
I am gonna work some carpets maybe a trio of gtps, some hognose and really dive into sd retics
2:38pm
Salada Chris
that's where its at with all the badass morphs they are by far the pretiest looking snake even in its wild type, itws just the size keep people away, if you can get a retic to a manageable size everyone will want them so the sd retic is the key to that. good choice.
2:38pm
Justin Mitchell
I may be interested in that girl
2:38pm
Salada Chris
let me know i can ship her with the other female
2:39pm
Justin Mitchell
Not sure what I would have to trade for her at the moment
Yeah I will have albino super tigers in 50% sd size in 2015
Should have some albino 50% sd stuff this year
2:46pm
Salada Chris
your in good shape then because i feel a shift coming real soon, and sd retics and dwarf burm stuff is the future. did you see the pied burm? When i seen it it got me interested so i googled morphs and even they have some cool stuff.
2:48pm
Justin Mitchell
Yeah but unless legislation changes Burms won't happen
2:48pm
Salada Chris
true
2:48pm
Justin Mitchell
I am hoping to have at least het pied super dwarf retics soon
I really dig the pied retics
2:52pm
Salada Chris
im drooling just thinking about them, i would give the majority of my ball python collection for one.
2:53pm
Justin Mitchell
Lol well at 50% sd females max around 8 ft
And I should be on the front lines of producing sd pied if all work out for me
3:27pm
Salada Chris
i hope it does.
4:12pm
Justin Mitchell
Yup cause by the time I produce pieds I will have platty, albino tiger ect to breed to pied
Wednesday
10:34am
Justin Mitchell
You are shipping today correct? Let me know when you have a tracking number
Wednesday
6:57pm
Justin Mitchell
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
Thursday
10:42am
Justin Mitchell
Did you ship that carpet
Thursday
5:38pm
Salada Chris
please don't have your wife message me talking about further action bro, I understand you have been very cool about my situation but my son had another seizure, this is the first time I opened facebook today and their is three messages from your wife, they have my son hooked up to an EEG machine to do an overnite EEG, so no I didn't ship the snake yet and probably wont till tomorrow being that it is already like 8 , here
5:39pm
Justin Mitchell
I didnt really ask her to, she ask me aobut it and I told her I dunno cant get an ansewer from you.......
5:40pm
Justin Mitchell
I understand the medical problem, but to be honest she is alot more buisness minded than I am, and she sees it is about a month after you got the fire and wants something in return.... that being said I am still not terribly upset and have already dealt with my wife when I found out what happend
5:40pm
Justin Mitchell
and you cannot ship tomarow it is thursday and tomarrow is friday
so shipping tomarrow isnt an option
5:45pm
Salada Chris
I forgot u don't except Friday or Saturday deleveries, ok I understand your wife s point you guys have kids to normally I would have flipped and wrote some crazy message in a situation like this , but respect you to much and relized that its not you or your wifes fault about my son its just hard to see him hooked up to all these fucking machines then come home to water the snakes check facebook and that was the first thing I saw. Im sorry bro
5:48pm
Justin Mitchell
well, like I said, I am a pushover until I get mad, at this point she spoke up because she felt like I was being taken advantage of ( she does that alot because I walk away instead of blowing a gasket and hulk smash shit) like I said before I am not to concerned I have set with my son in hopitals hooked up to ventilators ect
5:51pm
Salada Chris
it just sucks the mites no my son, but you telling me about losing 12 k worth of snakes, and your son having health issues makes me feel like looking in the mirror and saying man up bitch it could be worse, and it could be.
Tell your wife im sorry I would have answered her but didn't get on her till know, but im taking my labtop to the hosptital, and im not trying to takeadvantage of anyone im not going to ruin a potential business relationship nor my reputation over one snake
5:54pm
Justin Mitchell
I aint trying to beat you up, dont get me wrong when I went to fed ex today (as crazy as the day already was at work) and didnt have anything I kinda got pissed, that I couldnt get ahold of you. but you have a good reason and I know you will make it right.....
And to be fair most likely wont ruin your rep if you did fuck me, the dude that sent me this damn champagne never got taken to the boi.... lost 900 bucks on that one
6:02pm
Salada Chris
im sorry and I will make it right rep or not.
6:03pm
Justin Mitchell
No worries
What you think that female jungle jag is worth
Today
2:48pm
Justin Mitchell
So how did that male fire turn into an enchi fire...... And I know that is the same animal......
Today
7:47pm
Salada Chris
no some just mentioned that it looked enchiesh so I asked on ball python values how muchn an enchi fire would go for and posted the pic and got good feed back, what was the pairing that produced him?
7:48pm
Justin Mitchell
Fires are usually reduced and banded patterned
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/enchi-fire/
7:50pm
Salada Chris
look at the last or next to last one
7:54pm
Justin Mitchell
Don't really need to other than banded pattern there is nothing about that animal that even resembles an enchi.... And no way it is an enchi
It came from a fire fly clutch
Fire x pastel
Now I really wanna get that jag here and be done with this...
7:59pm
Salada Chris
I just seen your post and I don't know what your talking about bro
8:01pm
Justin Mitchell
What do you mean
8:06pm
Justin Mitchell
What are you not understanding
8:08pm
Salada Chris
I got your jag he or she will be shipped this week,
8:09pm
Justin Mitchell
Nope the deal was a female
Always was what is this he or she
8:12pm
Salada Chris
i cant tell a fire from an enchi i hope i still know how to sex snakes that ad i posted was just to see what people said and you really full blown called me out by name. that was fucked up bruh.
8:13pm
Justin Mitchell
You had it for sale as an enchi fire..... Not asking hey is this an enchi fire
There is a difference
8:17pm
Salada Chris
your jag will b shipped will imout
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such a shame that there are dishonest people in the world willing to cheat others.
