Clark Tucker of PowerHouse Reptiles

[Casey Hulse]

I do not think Joe is involved with reptiles because he enjoys them (he "employs" other to care for them 100%) nor is he in it for the money (from what I understand he is a millionaire), No, He is in the reptile business for a feeling of power, he seeks to control the market purely for a feeling of power. He drove the Mojave market down a few yrs. ago solely to financially hurt a couple of individuals that he did not care for. That makes Joe a dirtbag in my book.

 

[Gary O]

I do not think Joe is involved with reptiles because he enjoys them (he "employs" other to care for them 100%) nor is he in it for the money (from what I understand he is a millionaire), No, He is in the reptile business for a feeling of power, he seeks to control the market purely for a feeling of power. He drove the Mojave market down a few yrs. ago solely to financially hurt a couple of individuals that he did not care for. That makes Joe a dirtbag in my book.

My good friend when you are right you are right..........

I would rather give Casey my hard earned money then to save a buck and give it to Power House. Why.

Becuase I know Casey will be straight up with me. I know Casey will help later down the road if I ever needed it. And I do not have to worry about Casey being against me when I sell what I breed. Becuase Casey is good people.

Oh yeah to the OP Joe can sell his stuff for what ever he wants. Does not bother me. I would not buy a pied from them if they were 10 bucks......................

 

[Cat_72]

I do not think Joe is involved with reptiles because he enjoys them (he "employs" other to care for them 100%) nor is he in it for the money (from what I understand he is a millionaire), No, He is in the reptile business for a feeling of power, he seeks to control the market purely for a feeling of power. He drove the Mojave market down a few yrs. ago solely to financially hurt a couple of individuals that he did not care for. That makes Joe a dirtbag in my book.

Absolutely, Casey! At the end of the day, it all comes down to Joey getting his jollies...damned be whomever gets in the way.

 

[RJK890]

Originally Posted by Casey Hulse:
I do not think Joe is involved with reptiles because he enjoys them (he "employs" other to care for them 100%) nor is he in it for the money (from what I understand he is a millionaire),

In the words of The Rock, "It doesn't matter what you think!" He employs others to take care of his animals. If he does not care about the animals, why would he pay someone to care for them?

No, He is in the reptile business for a feeling of power, he seeks to control the market purely for a feeling of power. He drove the Mojave market down a few yrs. ago solely to financially hurt a couple of individuals that he did not care for.

Right, I am sure he invested a bunch of money and time into purchasing and breeding Mojo's just to drive the market down, making his investment worthless, solely to financialy hurt a couple individuals he did not like .

Originally Posted by GaryO:
My good friend when you are right you are right..........
I would rather give Casey my hard earned money then to save a buck and give it to Power House. Why.
Becuase I know Casey will be straight up with me. I know Casey will help later down the road if I ever needed it. And I do not have to worry about Casey being against me when I sell what I breed. Becuase Casey is good people.

Well that's great Gary, but I think you got the wrong thread. If you want to give your good friend a plug then go start a Casey Hulse "good guy" thread.

Originally Posted by Myself:
I just wanted to apologize for some of the members on this forum, not all of us have the hidden agendas and motives that others may have. Anytime you have someone in this business doing well (especially in the Ball community) there will be those who may not be doing as well that would like to see them go down.
Unfortunately as you have seen, posting a good guy thread on someone not liked by certain folks here is just stirring the pot and ultimately making things worse, not only for the seller, but the thread starter as well. Most of these people attacking any seller like this with no real honest dealing with them, all he say, she say, are just wanting to take down another competitor in the business!
It's also the reason you do not see too many negative threads on other sellers, anyone posting a negative thread on a well liked member of the community by some, will be ripped apart for doing so.
It's all politics, sales and market shares with 90% of these threads and posts. It's a shame, but the truth. This is also why most members of all these forums rarely post, including myself. When it comes to these situations, you're either part of the madness or against it, and those who are on the sidelines. This is especially true with regards to Ball pythons and the way the market has tanked and left quite a few pissed off people. Everyone seems to be kicking and clawing for that same $1.00 being spent! Anytime they can slander or eliminate the competition, regardless of right or wrong, it's how some seem to make up for the loss of sales!
Anyways, just wanted to let you know that not everyone in the reptile community agrees with all this, but we are the minority or actually the unspoken majority! What they do with all this fighting is really more hurt than good, every newbie that reads a thread like that feels they want no part of this community, and not because of the so called "bad guy".

I apologize for making an anonymous 3rd party quote, and I humbly accept my very first warning point. Thank You E-Normis for pointing out my error .

 

[nextworld3]

Just wait till you start breeding and getting ready to sell, then BAM Joe dumps them for less than you can sell for to cover your costs. How would you feel...?

This senario happened to a BUNCH of my customers, who i do care about, they invested 8000- 10000 on Mojaves with Joe. He took the time to explain to them how good of an investment they were and how to care for them... Super nice guy. The following year mojaves had some problems they dropped to $3000 still no problem if you paid $10,000 for them 4 babies and your in the black. THEN Joe dumped the price to $800 since HE THOUGHT THATs WHAT THEY WERE WORTH, halting the market completely. SCREWING his previous year customers and they claiming hes "bringing it back to the people" excet the ones from the year before. HE IS A DIRTBAG and HE WILL DO IT TO YOU.

People that buy from him, are like the lady that dates a guy who cheats on his x ... he would never do that to her... right?

Why dont you comment on what i wrote above??? You cant since its the TRUTH

 

[RJK890]

My last post, again.

Originally Posted by nextworld3
Just wait till you start breeding and getting ready to sell, then BAM Joe dumps them for less than you can sell for to cover your costs. How would you feel...?
This senario happened to a BUNCH of my customers, who i do care about, they invested 8000- 10000 on Mojaves with Joe. He took the time to explain to them how good of an investment they were and how to care for them... Super nice guy. The following year mojaves had some problems they dropped to $3000 still no problem if you paid $10,000 for them 4 babies and your in the black. THEN Joe dumped the price to $800 since HE THOUGHT THATs WHAT THEY WERE WORTH, halting the market completely. SCREWING his previous year customers and they claiming hes "bringing it back to the people" excet the ones from the year before.

I thought I had. I do not think he single handedly crashed the market. This hobby is growing and there are more and more people breeding the same morphs. Like I said, by the time my Pieds produce for me they will probably be going for $400-$600. It is an open market and KS, and the Wolfpack can not regulate it like the BP Mafia.
I am working on producing Albino Spiders, Axanthic Bees, Blue Eyed Lucy's, Queen Bees, several other designer morphs, and all of the morph ingredients involved with producing them.
Why? Because I want them in my collection and am not about to pay $8k-$10k+ for one.
The animals that I produce other than the ones I hold back will be sold to recoup some of the money I spend on this hobby. I will not be asking what Ralph Davis, Nerd, or even Casey Hulse are asking because I do not do this for a living. I will price mine lower than market value, because that is why someone will purchase my animal instead of going to a well known breeder.
If you paid $18k for a 1.1 Mojo you can breed them together and make more Mojo's, and Mojo x Mojo Lucy's. Also you could breed the 1. to as many other females as well. Pastel Mojo's, Mojo Ghost, Axanthic Mojo... Even in this "crashed" market, which IMO is still inflated, You could make your money back and then some in a short time.
I do not blame anyone for crashing the BP market. It is just the way it goes, look at the housing market here in FL. House's that people purchased for $100k were appraising for $225k. Many people pulled all that extra equity out of their homes and bought cars, boats, etc. Those were inflated appraisals and now they are back down to being valued at $120k. They owe more on their home than its worth, and are trying to sell the cars, boats, etc.
Others sold their homes for the inflated prices and bought new homes at inflated prices of $350k+. Now both homes are being foreclosed on. Sad but True, and just a fact of life, Buy stock in that.

 

[Casey Hulse]

I will price mine lower than market value, because that is why someone will purchase my animal instead of going to a well known breeder.

You obviously did not see Joe Capones "web tv"show that he and Wes had a couple years ago. A quote from Joe on that show said this to his audience/customers [B

]"you can sell your animals for whatever you want, but I will be just underneath you"​

[/B]
He said this to his potential customers! And you are going to sell for less than market huh? Better ask Joe if that is OK, cause it his intention to be the "market"

Right, I am sure he invested a bunch of money and time into purchasing and breeding Mojo's just to drive the market down, making his investment worthless, solely to financialy hurt a couple individuals he did not like .

I know it does not make sense to you, but if it is true (which many people believe, and I have heard there are emails that say just that), do you want to support him in his campaign with your money?

 

[grandmagreen]

This will be my last post in this thread. At least until I add more positive feedback from the many future transactions I will be having with Clark Tucker of Power House Reptiles. Get over it!

I thought I had. I do not think he single handedly crashed the market. This hobby is growing and there are more and more people breeding the same morphs. Like I said, by the time my Pieds produce for me they will probably be going for $400-$600. It is an open market and KS, and the Wolfpack can not regulate it like the BP Mafia.
I am working on producing Albino Spiders, Axanthic Bees, Blue Eyed Lucy's, Queen Bees, several other designer morphs, and all of the morph ingredients involved with producing them.
Why? Because I want them in my collection and am not about to pay $8k-$10k+ for one.
The animals that I produce other than the ones I hold back will be sold to recoup some of the money I spend on this hobby. I will not be asking what Ralph Davis, Nerd, or even Casey Hulse are asking because I do not do this for a living. I will price mine lower than market value, because that is why someone will purchase my animal instead of going to a well known breeder.
If you paid $18k for a 1.1 Mojo you can breed them together and make more Mojo's, and Mojo x Mojo Lucy's. Also you could breed the 1. to as many other females as well. Pastel Mojo's, Mojo Ghost, Axanthic Mojo... Even in this "crashed" market, which IMO is still inflated, You could make your money back and then some in a short time.
I do not blame anyone for crashing the BP market. It is just the way it goes, look at the housing market here in FL. House's that people purchased for $100k were appraising for $225k. Many people pulled all that extra equity out of their homes and bought cars, boats, etc. Those were inflated appraisals and now they are back down to being valued at $120k. They owe more on their home than its worth, and are trying to sell the cars, boats, etc.
Others sold their homes for the inflated prices and bought new homes at inflated prices of $350k+. Now both homes are being foreclosed on. Sad but True, and just a fact of life, Buy stock in that.

 

[Gary O]

It even says on his website

The Market setters.......

So I ask you this...... Why set the market instead of costing with it?

 

[Gary O]

That should ahve said coasting with it

 

[RJK890]

Someone has got to set it

There is a market for everything! Even if I were to sell my Spider, Pastel, Pinstripe, Lesser, Albino, or other base morphs(males of course,) to Petco, or in a petshop of my own for $79.00-$179.00, and Bee's, Blast's, Albino Spiders, etc. for $279.00-$379.00, I could make back my investment and a profit in the end, while providing great animals to some good people that otherwise may never be able to purchase an animal like that. It would expand this hobby, and eventually that is where it's going.
That is not my intention, but Would that make me a scumbag? I think not.
There will still be those that purchase the same snakes at double or triple the price from the big boys just because they can afford to, and believe that they have a more selective breeding stock. The big boys are far ahead of the rest of the industry, having 5+ morph genes in one snake. They will continue to make their money selling ground floor project animals, and new mutations. There is room for everyone at the table, just not for greedy people who want the whole pie.

To answer Casey, who cares? Does Wal-Mart give two craps about K-Mart, or Sears? Should they? It is obvious that you only want posts that support your rants, and lynchings. I honestly don't care if Joe, or anyone is selling Pieds for $500, or $100 and I need to sell them at $400, or $90. The BP mafia might be on a war path, but not everyone cares about your spilled milk over what someone else sells "their" snakes for in a free market.
This thread started with positive feedback from a transaction, and the same members as always come out pounding their chest and stomping their feet, because they don't like the seller for personal reasons.
Who cares what Joe, or anybody else sells for this year, next year, two years ago, or two years from now? People complained when spiders were $5000, $3000, $2000, $1000, $500, and they will continue to complain.
If I bought a Pied today for $1800 and next year they are selling for $500. So what, Who cares! I'm not going to go online bitching about how I now have to sell 4 Pieds to make $2000 back. Let alone hang the seller who sold me the Pied at $1800, because now he is selling his at $500. It's a free market, and if you can't deal with the risks then don't spend more money than you can afford to lose, or wait on making back, whether it takes 2 or 20 clutches!
If some of y'all don't like the sellers, don't buy from them. The BOI is here to provide actual feedback. If you don't like the feedback, start your own thread titled, "Why I hate So and so, even though I've never actually done business with them."

 

[Casey Hulse]

Robert you are missing my point. Joe is out to HURT, on purpose, other breeders. Period. It may be ok with you, it is probably ok with you that Lowes and Home Depot are trying to drive mom and pop True Values out of business also. I don't like it though.

To answer Casey, who cares?

I do.

 

[MikeCurtin]

I, for one, think it's GREAT when someone has a good experience. I also think it's great when they share that experience with others. I also think it's great when others who have had not so good experiences, or who have knowledge of such experiences remind the community why certain people are not well liked. This is the beauty of America!

 

[varnyard]

Robert, you do not have a clue. And who says Joe has legal registered business? I would not doubt that it is not a legal registered business. I will also add, Powerhouse belongs to Joe, he made it after the so called split with the Wes. Robert, your boy did not come into it till later, and I do not doubt he knows the truth about his new found partner.

Let's not forget Joe's stunt on RA, it was blackmail, well at least as the story goes. It will be a three way partnership before long, Wendy Childs will be out of prison before long.

Robert, it sounds like your boy Clark has himself in a hell of a fix, and as they say birds of a feather.

 

[Wraith]

There is a market for everything! Even if I were to sell my Spider, Pastel, Pinstripe, Lesser, Albino, or other base morphs(males of course,) to Petco, or in a petshop of my own for $79.00-$179.00, and Bee's, Blast's, Albino Spiders, etc. for $279.00-$379.00, I could make back my investment and a profit in the end, while providing great animals to some good people that otherwise may never be able to purchase an animal like that. It would expand this hobby, and eventually that is where it's going.

Petco would NOT buy from you. They have jobbers they contract with at the corporate level for their animals and then distribute animals procured by the jobber to the various store locations. They don't buy off the street - not even from local "breeders".

 

[nextworld3]

There is a market for everything! Even if I were to sell my Spider, Pastel, Pinstripe, Lesser, Albino, or other base morphs(males of course,) to Petco, or in a petshop of my own for $79.00-$179.00, and Bee's, Blast's, Albino Spiders, etc. for $279.00-$379.00, I could make back my investment and a profit in the end, while providing great animals to some good people that otherwise may never be able to purchase an animal like that. It would expand this hobby, and eventually that is where it's going.
That is not my intention, but Would that make me a scumbag? I think not.
There will still be those that purchase the same snakes at double or triple the price from the big boys just because they can afford to, and believe that they have a more selective breeding stock. The big boys are far ahead of the rest of the industry, having 5+ morph genes in one snake. They will continue to make their money selling ground floor project animals, and new mutations. There is room for everyone at the table, just not for greedy people who want the whole pie.

To answer Casey, who cares? Does Wal-Mart give two craps about K-Mart, or Sears? Should they? It is obvious that you only want posts that support your rants, and lynchings. I honestly don't care if Joe, or anyone is selling Pieds for $500, or $100 and I need to sell them at $400, or $90. The BP mafia might be on a war path, but not everyone cares about your spilled milk over what someone else sells "their" snakes for in a free market.
This thread started with positive feedback from a transaction, and the same members as always come out pounding their chest and stomping their feet, because they don't like the seller for personal reasons.
Who cares what Joe, or anybody else sells for this year, next year, two years ago, or two years from now? People complained when spiders were $5000, $3000, $2000, $1000, $500, and they will continue to complain.
If I bought a Pied today for $1800 and next year they are selling for $500. So what, Who cares! I'm not going to go online bitching about how I now have to sell 4 Pieds to make $2000 back. Let alone hang the seller who sold me the Pied at $1800, because now he is selling his at $500. It's a free market, and if you can't deal with the risks then don't spend more money than you can afford to lose, or wait on making back, whether it takes 2 or 20 clutches!
If some of y'all don't like the sellers, don't buy from them. The BOI is here to provide actual feedback. If you don't like the feedback, start your own thread titled, "Why I hate So and so, even though I've never actually done business with them."

Just out of curiosity, why are defending this pos? Why isn't he here himself? You can buy from him all you want. Just don't cry here when you get screwed, i will happily be the first to say I told you so. Also Joe is the only person I have ever posted negative about on here and will continue to do so. I don't think he crashed the market. He doesn't have that much power. He is STILL A POS for doing what he did (screwing his customers to get back at a few breeders) and lying about all the animals he had. He dropped prices on morphs he didn't even have in stock and then went around offering ridiculously low prices to other breeders "since the market came down" in hopes to get some and fill his orders. Ask him how many people he had to refund since he didn't have the animals to fill the orders on animals he tanked the price of. THIS IS A FACT!

Also he flat out told me he hoped to put Ian, Brian B and Ralph out of business as well as the other large breeders. He said these people had no chance to compete with him since their overhead was to much. Anyone who intentionally tries to take another persons livelihood away from them (especially when they love what they do and have done some much for this industry) is the ultimate scumbag in my book!

 

[varnyard]

Robert, I hate to say it, but it looks like you are going through the BOI choosing what scumbag you are going to deal with next.

As for dealing with Clark, well that's fine, but you cannot separate him from Joe, it's like the clip from TV. "You can't have one without the other". You are supporting a known scumbag, and the same can be said about Clark. Why in the hell would you want to support the garbage in our hobby?

As for being breeders that are here to bump the competition, well that is not the case with me. I do not breed ball pythons, but I do know a scumbag when I see one. A spade is still a spade, and it will never be a heart.

 

[jo49er]

I have to agree with everyone in regards to Capone being no better than slime. My daughter purchased a Bumble Bee Ball Python that has a severe neurological disorder. It came this way and has progressively gotten worse to the point of this snake being a $1400.00 pet. Breeding is out of the question....and all I get from Clark Tucker is how dare I threaten his partner. He then offered up a generous (not) $700.00 credit to be applied towards the purchase of a new snake. Buyer beware........

 

[Junkyard]

Hey now, keep Walmart out of this thread. I buy my toilet paper and dog food from them.

I have defended a couple of people, I figured they were good folks and recommended everyone to them. Turns out I was very wrong about them. Sure Joe did not crash the whole BP market, just the Mojave BP market. They obviously bred too many and wanted to move them out as fast as possible and they did so without a care on the world. If you think Clark is a good guy, that is fine, but it seems that he is not the one producing these animals.

Just out of curiosity, who guarantees these animals? Clark or Joe? Looking back on Jeff Gee's thread, if Clark is stamping a guarantee on these animals, he is setting himself up for disaster.

As for how you plan on selling any animals you produce, how far below the market are you planning on going? Remember, keeping it within competition is good business, cutting cost 75% so you get all the business, it is just going to stir people up and cause a thread like this one to appear, about you. It is your business, your animals, your decision on the prices you set. I always believed that about Joe, but I do not think it is good to kill the hobbiest who is keeping your company in business.

Just my observation.

 

[shrap]

"Why I hate So and so, even though I've never actually done business with them."

I dont have to meet Charles Manson to know I dont want to have a sleep over with him....