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Corey Sawyer Busted!!!!

Ritchie,

I probably should not even be writing this, because I would really like to see this filter to the bottom of the proverbial stack, however, there is something amiss with your analogy, I think.

You see, when bad guys use guns, good guys do go after them with guns too, but those good guys (the cops) are given a very specific task to perform and they are permitted to do use that type of force when the same would not be acceptable for others. Yes, you may certainly protect your life, liberty, and property with necessary force if a "bad guy" comes into your home, but you may not chase after him and invade his home to retrieve him for justice if he were to initially get away. The cops alone can do that.

Do I think Corey is a bad guy? No. But by the same token, I would not have done what he did, and I would have suffered loss before I stooped to that level. That is my own personal ethic, and each one of us has to adopt his/her own. All I have ever said about Corey and his actions is that he lied to get his way. He did it to save himself $500, and I do not agree with doing such. We can dress it up and call it whatever we want, but the reality is still the same. Obviously, there are some who see this issue differently than do I, but I won't be changing my mind about my own actions just because others for whom I have respect disagree with me. I wouldn't expect you too either.

In short (too late!), I guess this is going to have to be one of those areas wherein we will have to agree to disagree. No one was ripped off. Corey is not a bad guy. I just have to question what I see him say for a while, but that's my problem, I guess.
 
FANNING THE FLAMES

Sorry just couldn't leave well enough alone, I told myself at one point that I was through with this forum that it gets me too infuriated and sometimes I blow my top and make an @$$ of myself. So After a point I never came back and read the posts regarding this thread I started.

Comming back I am sickened to find how unfair I was treated, let me point out a few things here:

1) How did I ripp Corey Off ,or try to? I have never had a transaction or any correspondences of any nature except for a phone call and he said he wasn't interested in any mandarins at 35ea which is a great price. End of phone call..Everything else is a fabricartion on his part.
No proof was ever shown by him, please elaborate... It's funny Mr. Davis brought this point up several times and was IGNORED and it is the cornerstone of Coreys argument but yet no proof was ever given , but it seem to be taken as FACT that I did so... what gives ,is this some sort of popularity contest? so I'm guilty based on an accusation. Gee this is AMERICAN!!! Thought it was a basic right to be able to face my accuser and the evidence used against me. Anyone one can make up any accusation. Seems to me if someone developes clout with this forum they can accuse anyone of anything without being required to give evidence. I read Earl Turners post regarding Corey and you people were all over him for proof of his accusations, WHY wasn't I given the same right. ANSEWER ME IF YOU DARE... Why wasn't Corey required to back up his acusations , but Earl was...smells a little click-ish.

2) Lawsuit WHAT lawsuit , on what grounds , cause I said you were "smokin somthing" in a heated comment. Where's this lawsuit, so you lied to get my address about a lawsuit, now it seems the lawsuit ideal was just a way to cover your lies. I maybe wrong here but isn't telling someone your taking legal action against them and not following through harrassment, especially in a public forum such as this, when I was a repo -man it was. So where's this childish lawsuit.

3) No-one ever asked for my address, I would of given it to anyone, I have nothing to hide. Where the proof that he tried other methods before deciept.


Let's review the facts:
Corey is a known smuggler and USFW informant
Corey has turned in his fellow man to escape prosecution
Corey admitted lying to get my address
Corey hasn't sued me or done anything of the sort he said he was doing..because he can't all lies
Corey hasn't presented one fact to back his accusations
I have backed mine with fact
Corey is now nowhere to be found, owes several good people lots of cash.
I do a good amount of buisness, more than most, so how often do you see a neg. complaint against me,never, not one credible complaint can be found in years of buisness. If I was such a bad guy I'd be all over this forum.
So Corey ...stick that in your pipe and smoke it!!!
Oh man here I go again...Another dumb comment that is going to get me sued.

So I maybe a little stupid for doin this but felt that in light of recent developements people can now see things for what they truley are and maybe reaccess there judgements. I'm not perfect and will never be, but I do have a willingness to try to do the right thing and admitt that I have my faults, I have many. One of which gets me in so much trouble , especially here, and that is speaking my piece, I will fly off at the mouth without a moments hesitation and speak my mind as the thoughts develope. Which leaves me open to criticism and gives others something to pick me apart with. So I can use more control, but can't we all.
Regards,
Justin Mitcham
 
Justin, man, Justin! Take it from me, disregaurd how you feel and just let this thread go away. It's not going to do you any good, not gonna do Corey any good. Not gonna fix your issues and it surely isn't going to fix that feeling of being pissed off that I'm sure you still have. All you're gonna do here is make yourself look like an Adam Block, nobody wants to see that so just pretent not well enough is well enough and leave it alone.

You and I can start the www.IdidntGetJustice.com support group if you want but other then Neil I'm about the most qualified person to tell you to let this die like, well, let it die like an albino ball python;)
 
Justin,
just make sure your story is straight.
And wether it is a big breeder or not......I will be supportive whether I like it or not.
I am sure that other people (if you keep your story straight) will also be helpful.

but that is just my opinion
 
Just FYI, Corey has not been proven to be an UFWS informant. The article only mentions a turtle collector in Washington state, which, although it is definitely possible is Corey, I am sure he is not the only person keeping turtles up there.

To my knowledge, Corey has never been busted for smuggling. There was a dust up last year involving some Fly River Turtles, but according to all information I have on that issue, the turtles were brought in legally. The only problem was with Public Health and that the turtles that came in were under 4 inches in length, which Corey was initially led to believe they were not.

I also understand that Corey has had problems with a couple of the turtle conservation organizations publicly accusing him of illegal importation activities. I have yet to see any proof of illegal activities provided by these groups, but it is quite likely they have seen something I may not have(I'm not Corey's business manager or anything lol).

The last I heard from Corey was several months ago regarding some surgery he said he was due in for. Outside of business dealings between he and myself and casual conversations we've had regarding a couple of other deals(none of which were the ones mentioned in this thread), I don't know how his business dealings had been going the last few months.
 
Corey/Kevin

Corey's troubles are just getting started...It all has finally caught
up to him...Watch his lips move and you will know he's lies. His
life is like a endless toilet flushing a bad load.He can't hide the truth forever.Last year He accuses me of shipping a hot w/fed-ex
and then gets in trouble with fed-ex him self. Calls me a BAD GUY.
Remove the log from your eye,so you might be able to help your
fellow man.I leave you with a tissue to wipe away the do-do on
your face...
P.S. Don't call me using that Kevin name




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Let's see, I made that post nearly a year ago, and you're just now rebuting it?

And just for your information, I will no longer do any business with Corey Sawyer and I would advise others not to do business with him either.
 
Hey RoB

Hey, whatever happened to the MIRC chat thing (gexlinks,geckochat)where we (you,corey me[madrussian], used to talk all the time. Used to be a good souse of information and a way to pass the time.

What happened betwen you and Corey.

Also what ever happened to that girl from canada ( the one you showed me a pic of in the black dress)

Just curious
Nicolai
 
sorry, i just read ALL the BOI rules

I guess i shouldnt have gone off subject to rob...just saw his name and wanted to make contact because i havent heard from him in a year or two..
And didnt post my name
Nick Bonn
Just a nobody in the Herp Hobby!!!
 
WOW!! the chat people

I am glad to see old friends are still around.I will meet you all in the old room!! if you remember where it is.
Jeez steve I thought you dropped off the face of the earth.
 
Hey Justin,
The only thing I've ever noticed is that your a WHINER!! Anybody can sell at whatever they want to. You don't have to like it, but it's the nature of the beast!! Whine, whine, whine, is that all you do? That's all I've seen!!
 
Justin,
This is a good laugh !! Another "one-post wonder" who has only "ever noticed that you are a whiner". Did he wait two years to finally get the hutzpa to say it ? :rofl: Thanks for posting the article.
 
Thx Jim...
I feel there is more to this than meets the eye... I have a feeling he is trying to get back at me because one of his friends sent me some turtles that were fungus infected crap and I been having a hard time getting my customers who ordered the turtles to pay for them..
He is just upset..But on the side not because of this post I have decided to cancel my arrangement with his friend because of this crap..his buddy just lost a 10-20k year customer.
 
Eric has some issues I guess...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin Mitcham
Pretty cool you hiding behind a PC saying stuff like that..
be a man of action and come up and introduce yourself to me at one of the shows...
Then we will see who is full of shit...



No problem...you little redneck p@@@!!! The thing is you know I'm up here and your down there. Talk about hiding behind a PC!!

Only steers and queers come from Texas and you, my son, don't have horns!!

What guy...this is his private PM guess he doesn't like people from Texas funny this site is full of them..
 
Hey Eric,

What's your issue? You want to go public with it? If not, how about shutting your pie hole.
 
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