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Correlation between weight gain and amount of eggs

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Hello everyone,

I was wondering if there is any documented correlation between the weight gained by a female during the building phase and the amount of eggs a female will lay. I would like to hear from other keepers.

I have a female that started breeding at 1900 grams, this was in November. By January she was weighing 2515, finally this month (March) she was weighing 2850 grams 3 days before her ovy.

I did palpate her in January and felt what I thought was 5 follicles. Being new to palpating I am sure that missed something or mistook some follicles for poop or organs. The reason I think my palpating may be off is because this female gained 950 grams between the beginning of the breeding cycle and her ovy. Even if each egg weighed 120 grams that would still not account for all of her weight gain. The weights were taken when she was empty and she stopped eating about 4 weeks before her ovy. I also understand that it might be that she just gained a bunch of weight from being a fatty all through December and stuffing her face before slowing down.

Just to satisfy my own curiosity I was wondering if anyone else had ever tracked this relationship between weight and amount of eggs.

Thank you all for your time and I’m looking forward to your replies.

NJ

Also here is a picture of my girl having her ovy. Poor thing was so pissy. Lol.
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good grief she is huge! Intersting study cant wait to hear some breeders chime in. Think I will attempt this next season
 
It seems most people including myself tend to miss one or two eggs when palpating, I bet you get 6-7 nice sized eggies :thumbsup:
 
I'd be surprised to see that girl give you less than 7. Good luck with her!!
 
I was starting to lose hope there guys lol.

I hope she gives me 7, I'll make sure to look for this thread to update once she does drop. I hope to see some other breeders that keep these types of numbers chime in.

Obviously bigger girls will drop more eggs, or at least that's the assumption, but maybe there really is no way to track it since other factors would play into it. Lets see how this all plays out. I hope all of your seasons are going awesome, Here's hoping you guys all get to hit your odds!
 
I bet her clutch will weight very close to 950 grams. I've only done enough weighing to figure out that about 1/3 of the pre-lay weight goes into the cutch with some pretty good consistency.

Unfortunately bigger girls tend to lay bigger eggs so the number of eggs doesn't go up the full proportion as the female gets bigger. With a midsized girl like yours you might get lucky and get eight or even nine eggs in the 100 to 110 gram range but probably not twelve 80 gram eggs even though she might have laid that size eggs when she was 1,500 grams. I was lucky to get fourteen 114 grams eggs from one 4,300 gram girl last year but my other 4,300 gram girl only gave 12 good eggs because hers weighed 125 grams.

Maybe your careful weight gain records during the breeding season will help you figure out why the egg size fluctuates from year to year within the general bigger girl = bigger eggs confines. At one time I thought maybe you could selectively breed for girls that laid larger numbers of smaller eggs but after seeing how much the eggs size (but not the total clutch weight) varies even for the same female from year to year I gave up.
 
@CornNut - Thanks for the great info.

I would like to try and track this at least for the next 3 seasons. If I can't find anything, well, I tried. Lol. Like I had said earlier, maybe there are just to many factors to pinpoint just one reason for how many eggs they will produce. It could be ANYTHING. Too much heat, not enough heat, humidity, stress levels.

But breeding for girls that lay bigger clutches sounds awesome though. Would have loved to see that.
 
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