Crazy Cresties - Wendy Childs - Ali Haines- BAD GUYS!!!!!!!!

[Sweeney's Serpents]

It is the same lizard. just conpare the black specks and white patches. Do they come in purple?

Sweeneys Serpents

 

[LadyOhh]

Griz, you are a bad boy! LoL

 

[Chameleon Company]

Jim O !

I figured I better post before you wore out your screen shot key. Sorry, but much family visiting, and my computer time is fleeting for the holidays. Hope you can understand that time for Fauna is not high on the priority list. You used to be a doctor, right? And now you are posting screen shots of when I am logged in.

For those who were able to post to the facts here, its nice to see a few. Let me see if I have this right.

1) Jeane of USA Geckos buys an animal from Wendy, isn't satisfied with color, and wants to return it. She contacts Wendy about it. Wendy agrees, but nothing happens.

2) Wendy gets hiked off to the hoosegow (far more serious stuff than you linked to Ken), which had been a known event for at least six months. I believe the 24 month term is with all possible "good behavior discounts". Over 40 without, but I don't know for sure, and don't care. I do hope that she learns, improves, and moves on.

3) Crazy Cresties is not a corporate entity. Wendy got Jeane's money. Wendy is gone. Ali decides to refund Jeane out of her own pocket, although Ali was not the entity Jeane paid. Jeane wants shipping and PayPal fees refunded too, and Ali says no. That is consistent with most reptile companies, that the customer pays all shipping, to include returns.

4) Jeane (USA) ships back the gecko, and is refunded the purchase price.

5) As she said she would do if she did not get her shipping fees refunded, Jeane comes here to the BOI. Ali has refunded Jeane out of her pocket, in part to cover for Jeane's lack of exercising adequate "buyer beware". So Jeane posts here intending to ....... ?

Ali made good. Did Wendy photo shop the picture ? I don't know and don't care, although its fodder for those that feed at that trough. This thread is about a proper refund by someone who did not have any obligation to make it, but did so anyway. Debate what you will about assuming legal liabilities, but almost all do not apply with an unincorporated sole proprietorship. Jeane of USA should be thankful, IMMHO. Sure seems thankful eh ?


While much is not dated, from what I know, and which is written in other threads, Ali did not know what she was getting into with buying out Wendy and using the same website. I thank those who provided her help there. Her initial dealings with Jeane here were as she was taking over the business, and towards the end involved her visiting Wendy in the County lock-up trying to sort things out before Wendy was carted to the real big house on the other side of the state. I can understand where the business relationship eroded as Ali found out more and more.

Maybe its just me, but this thread is just as pathetic as so many others here, with the same cast of characters. For a few, maybe this will fuel another 20-50 posts so you can call people scumbag's, scammers, etc (Enjoy Wes!). My warped opinion is that Jeane got a pretty good shake from Ali in fixing Jeane's mess. Sorry to disappoint Jim O., but I must yield all computers back to the younger ones. Merry Christmas ...... Happy Holidays .......

 

[USAGECKOS]

wendy child <[email protected]> wrote:
I should have worded my last reply differently,I do have to send you the shipping papers,then once he's shipped I will send you the refund.I made it sound as though it would happen the other way around, I'm afraid I have refunded money before recieving animals in the past,never to see the animal again,I know you must understand.I will get you the Shipping label(prepaid) but I must warn you that the weather here is in the teens,averaging 12 degrees f. This is much too cold to be shipping live geckos ect.and if you do decide to ship now reguardless and he arrives dead, it will be against my advisory and you will recieve no refund. I have told all potentail buyers I am hoping for the weather to lighten up by monday but there is no guaratees. (I have another man waiting for me to send him a gecko,but he understands it is not safe to do so now.) another thing I meant to mention was if you do not have appropriate shipping equipment and a heat pack i will send you those as well .please let me know.QUOTE]


Ali is a flat out lier. She said in this email to me that she would send me a PREPAID shipping label so I could ship the Crested back, but it wasn't prepaid.

So Ali, why did you lie to me about that???????????

 

[USAGECKOS]

My warped opinion is that Jeane got a pretty good shake from Ali in fixing Jeane's mess. Sorry to disappoint Jim O., but I must yield all computers back to the younger ones. Merry Christmas ...... Happy Holidays .......

How exactly is this my mess? I bought what was supposed to be a Red Male Crested from Crazy Cresties, but got a Brown Male Crested that never once turned Red. I was told that it would be fixed. I had to wait 8 WEEKS and about 30 emails to get a partial refund.

 

[PaulSage]

Jeane of USA should be thankful, IMMHO. Sure seems thankful eh ?

Thankful for what? For only getting 1/2 screwed over on the deal? What kind of standards do you play by? I suppose if Jeane lowered her standards enough, she could've just posted a "good guy" thread, huh? Sheesh...

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

Thankful for what? For only getting 1/2 screwed over on the deal? What kind of standards do you play by? I suppose if Jeane lowered her standards enough, she could've just posted a "good guy" thread, huh? Sheesh...

I hope he never has to go through this sort of mess.. id hate to see the day that happens.

 

[kmurphy]

Thankful for what? For only getting 1/2 screwed over on the deal? What kind of standards do you play by? I suppose if Jeane lowered her standards enough, she could've just posted a "good guy" thread, huh? Sheesh

As unpopular as this seems to be, I have to agree with Jim in part here. I think Ali was under the impression that she was taking over a going business of Wendy's. She quickly learned that any mention of her relationship with Wendy was committing financial suicide. So what did she end up with? A bunch of geckos and some cages, a bad reputation and a name she can't use. If any one of us had purchased out Wendy's stock, we would not feel obligated to honor Wendy's commitments. So basically Wendy is Out of Business, and yes Jeane was lucky Ali honored Wendy's commitment. She could have just as easily said Wendy's gone - sorry.

As for shipping, sure it would have been smart to pay it. But calling her a Bad Guy, scammer and a liar is a little strong for not refunding a 20 shipping charge. I think inexperienced would be a better description.

 

[Jim O]

As unpopular as this seems to be, I have to agree with Jim in part here. I think Ali was under the impression that she was taking over a going business of Wendy's. She quickly learned that any mention of her relationship with Wendy was committing financial suicide. So what did she end up with? A bunch of geckos and some cages, a bad reputation and a name she can't use. If any one of us had purchased out Wendy's stock, we would not feel obligated to honor Wendy's commitments. So basically Wendy is Out of Business, and yes Jeane was lucky Ali honored Wendy's commitment. She could have just as easily said Wendy's gone - sorry.

As for shipping, sure it would have been smart to pay it. But calling her a Bad Guy, scammer and a liar is a little strong for not refunding a 20 shipping charge. I think inexperienced would be a better description.

All of this might be true, if, and only if, Ali is actually what Ali claimed to be. But then what is that? Owner of the business? Runnning it until Wendy can return? Wendy's husband? Why is Jeane Best still involved? Some of the claims don't ring true..

In either event, Wendy still doctored a photo and sold a brown animal as red. She is still a scammer.

 

[Griz]

As unpopular as this seems to be, I have to agree with Jim in part here. I think Ali was under the impression that she was taking over a going business of Wendy's. She quickly learned that any mention of her relationship with Wendy was committing financial suicide. So what did she end up with? A bunch of geckos and some cages, a bad reputation and a name she can't use. If any one of us had purchased out Wendy's stock, we would not feel obligated to honor Wendy's commitments. So basically Wendy is Out of Business, and yes Jeane was lucky Ali honored Wendy's commitment. She could have just as easily said Wendy's gone - sorry.

As for shipping, sure it would have been smart to pay it. But calling her a Bad Guy, scammer and a liar is a little strong for not refunding a 20 shipping charge. I think inexperienced would be a better description.

Kevin, I am going to assume that you did not read the entire thread carefully. Ali promised to send a prepaid shipping label. She clearly indicated she would pay shipping and then reneged.

Secondly, Ali indicated that she had bought this business from Wendy. If you buy a business then often times you also take over the liabilities of said business. This is one of those liabilities.

Third, it's not the fault of the consumer that Ali did not do her homework with regards to the Child's reputation. When Ali took on this business she unfortunately took on some of the smell that covered Wendy. Can Ali wash herself enough to get that stink off??? I sincerely hope so but only time will tell.

I have to be skeptical of anyone who associates with the likes of the Child's. Chamco is a classic example......

Griz

 

[Otter_23]

When someone buys or supposedly buys a business and then finds out that business has one of the worst names in the industry yet continues to use the name and the log in name they are incredibly stupid or not being fully honest. To continue to use Jason's account (which it is in the BOI rules to post full name which on several posts she has not) and use the name of the company come on. It doesn't take a genius to figure out to get away from that company name as fast as you can. Even after several people told her to. Why take on Wendy's bad dealings? Could Ali have just bought the stock and named her own company and had her own fauna account? I think she is running the company while Wendy is away and that the company was not actually sold but more on loan at this time, so Wendy is still making the rules on how to run it. All of this is my own personal opinion and I can guarantee you I will not do business with this company no matter who buys it.

Ali I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but since you can't even register your own fuana account I just really don't believe you are being fully honest with how things are going down.

 

[kmurphy]

Ali I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but since you can't even register your own fuana account I just really don't believe you are being fully honest with how things are going down.

I have admit this took a little of the wind out of my sails. I just checked and CrazyCresty's did log in yesterday and I would have to assume it is Ali.

 

[ravensgait]

JimO brought this up a few post back and I guess we seem to be the only ones to have noticed. IE Ali said that she was just running the business till Wendy got back. So Ali doesn't own the business and isn't separate from Wendy ETC she's just the manager or whatever till the owner takes it back over. So it would seem that Ali is no more honest than Wendy and Jim F I wonder if you knew that or just didn't want to bring it up?? Randy

 

[Wilomn]

Actually Randy, Jeane brought it to light in emails from ali/wendy/jason and whomever else is running that company.

All scumbags, through and through.

 

[USAGECKOS]

Actually Randy, Jeane brought it to light in emails from ali/wendy/jason and whomever else is running that company.

All scumbags, through and through.

Here is the thread Wes is refering to:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91554

Not a big deal, but I noticed that people are spelling my name wrong, it is spelled Jeanne, again, not a big deal, but thought I would mention it, so when people are talking about Wendys' mother, who spells her name Jeane, we will all know who is who.

 

[USAGECKOS]

Man I'm glad I've never bought anything from Crazy Cresties. I got lucky and found a few reputable breeders. Let me see who was that one again...hmmm...oh yea it was you Jeanne! I bought 3 harley cresteds that turned out to be 2:1, and the girl just recently started to breed with a red harley male.

Glad to hear they are doing good, I would love to see pictures

 

[ravensgait]

Wes I had noticed that and it was where I got the clue from.. The point I was making was that Jim F and others seem to still think that the business is Ali's and hers alone. Even after reading the emails or skipping over them some seem to have missed that..Randy

 

[USAGECKOS]

Wes I had noticed that and it was where I got the clue from.. The point I was making was that Jim F and others seem to still think that the business is Ali's and hers alone. Even after reading the emails or skipping over them some seem to have missed that..Randy

Selective Memory

 

[Double "D" Reptiles]

I only got in on this thread yesterday and the first one I read was that CrazyCresties was under "NEW MANAGEMENT." That, by simple use of the English language, does not imply in any manner "New Ownership."

Ali needs to decide whether she's the new manager, which would also imply that Wendy or somebody else in the family is in fact still the owner, or whether she's the new owner. There are some decidedly different outcomes based upon the answer to the question. If she's only the new manager, then the company is still under all obligations, contractual, financial and otherwise as incurred under the previous management and all mistrust by damaged parties is completely warranted. If she is in fact a new owner (sales receipts and/or ownership transfer documents for animals, website URL and transfer of company name would go a long ways to help some people to better understand this mess) then the whole thing takes a different turn in regards to all deals which transpired prior to the transfer/sale of said company. If, however, the transfer is truly temporary for purposes of evading legal issues or set up as a "holding" until a future date, whether specified as a date or implied through the meeting of "special" criteria, then the company should be considered a "cover up" and treated by all prospective customers in the same light that it has been considered in the past.

If this is a true sale/purchase of the company, animals and anything else and is now an entirely new sole proprietorship, then the wisest course of action has been previously explained in one or both of the threads recently and include an immediate change of company name, setting up a new website to reflect such a change, setting up a Fauna account with the new company name and correct posting info and still a few more things which I don't recall clearly due to extranious noise around me right now and I'm not going to go back to look all of them up.

I've never been much into geckos, yet, and don't expect to have many any time soon as the wife doesn't do well with critters that can scale walls, whether with 4 legs or 8. It does have it's drawbacks but I do love her so keep things grounded out of respect (and yet she loves anoles which makes absolutely no sense to me.) Anyway, I don't see doing any business with Ali and company any time soon and still have tons of other options available should the opportunity and/or need arise later. Until I see much better reports on a regular basis, I think I'll remain a skeptic and hope that things turn out well, but I do have my reservations.

 

[Wraith]

I only got in on this thread yesterday and the first one I read was that CrazyCresties was under "NEW MANAGEMENT." That, by simple use of the English language, does not imply in any manner "New Ownership."

In order to have a business I believe one must legally register a DBA with their state? I can find no crazy cresties business let alone any business registered under any of their names.

https://fortress.wa.gov/dol/dolprod/bpdLicenseQuery/


If they arent a legally registered business then they are likely breaking the law in more ways than one.

Adrian